Saints vs Cowboys last possession

[Richmond Cowboy]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

 

[tantrix1969]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

 

[DragonCowboy]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

Didn't the Saints start with almost 5 minutes though? Dallas had about 2:30? I didn't get to see the end to either game (I was in India for Dallas-Philadelphia, and I was jetlagged for Philadelphia-New Orleans, but I think that much more time would allow you to be more flexible with what you're doing).

 

[visionary]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

Our HC is being trained
Training to be a HC will begin as soon as potty training is done

Stay tuned

 

[links18]

Didn't the Saints start with almost 5 minutes though? Dallas had about 2:30? I didn't get to see the end to either game (I was in India for Dallas-Philadelphia, and I was jetlagged for Philadelphia-New Orleans, but I think that much more time would allow you to be more flexible with what you're doing).

Yes, but none of this means you have to throw into the teeth of the defense on the first play of the drive.

 

[dariet22]

What's scarier? Having a HC that's in "training", or that it's Jerry that's training him.

 

[Brooksey]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

The more pressure there is the more Jason calls for the pass. Great coaches do the opposite. You hit the nail on the head.

 

[hutch1254]

One thing I noticed in the Colts game...even though they ran the hurry up offense practically the entire 2nd half and mainly shotgun they had a bunch of running plays with Donald Brown out of the gun. Despite the pressure to hurry they kept the runs in there and they were effective. Maybe that and the Saints last drive as mentioned above could be played on a continuous loop with JG strapped to a chair with toothpicks holding his eyes open until training camp starts.

 

[Nation]

Saints started their drive with 4:54 and two timeouts. Cowboys started their drive with 1:49 and one timeout.

 

[Blackspider214]

Didn't the Saints start with almost 5 minutes though? Dallas had about 2:30? I didn't get to see the end to either game (I was in India for Dallas-Philadelphia, and I was jetlagged for Philadelphia-New Orleans, but I think that much more time would allow you to be more flexible with what you're doing).

Dallas started on the 30 or 35 and only need a FG to win. Plenty of time for some runs. And we had 2 timeouts. Granted, the runs we tried weren't getting anything in the 2nd half but vintage carrot top, we never stick with the run long enough to ever try and get it going. Pass pass pass. He's so clueless.

Anyone check out the Chargers? Only threw it 16 times and won easily. Saints ran a lot on that poor Eagles defense as well.

Wish we had a coach who knew what he was doing. Watching the playoff games this weekend, so apparent how bad our coach is. Will be even more apparent when the top seeds play as well next week and their coaches.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Dallas started on the 30 or 35 and only need a FG to win. Plenty of time for some runs. And we had 2 timeouts. .

We had only one timeout and 1:49 remaining. There's no way you can run more than maybe once in that situation. Not a team in the league is calling "some runs" there. You really want to preserve that timeout for setting up the FG.

And by the time the NO-PHI game reached the two-minute warning, the Saints were already in fairly comfortable FG range, sitting at the PHI 24 yard line with a first down.

There's simply no comparing the two situations.

 

[AdamJT13]

Dallas started on the 30 or 35 and only need a FG to win. Plenty of time for some runs. And we had 2 timeouts.

We started on our 32 with 1:49 left and had only one timeout.

Do you know how many times this season any NFL team handed off the ball at or inside its own 40 when down by 1-8 points (needing one score to tie or win) with less than 2 minutes remaining? ZERO. That's right, there were 194 pass plays and zero rushing plays in those situations. Last year? Again, ZERO running plays (and 173 pass plays) in those situations. The year before that? ONE rush -- on a second-and-1 play after a 9-yard pass.

In fact, over the past five seasons, there have been ZERO runs on first-and-10 in those situations. NFL coaches have had 455 chances to call a running play and NOT ONE has done so.

Do you think there is a reason?

 

[ConstantReboot]

In watching the game last night, Payton does his fair share of moving the ball through the air. Lots of spread empty sets. Similar to what we do right? But when it counted the most. When he wanted to keep the Eagles from having another chance, he pounded the rock. On that last possession, with 2 minutes left and needing a FG to win the game, NO ran the ball 8 times and passed it once. And this is with a potential HOF QB and a journeyman kicker signed last week on the roster. In our game, similar situation, just under 2 minutes to move into FG range with a clutch kicker, a bruising back, a softening Eagles defense, and a backup QB we decide to go shotgun and throw into a small window in the middle of the field.

Thats Garrett for you. Lack of situational football is what is killing us during crunchtime. Garrett lost us the Lions and the Packers game. Two game we could have easily won if it weren't for his idea of passing on every play. It amazes he that his been with our club for around 10 years now and counting and still has no idea how to call plays during crunch time.

 

[morasp]

I wouldn't start at the last drive I would look at the whole second half. We didn't run it very much at all in the second half. Watching the playoffs this weekend showed the same thing as last year. The teams that can run the ball when the passing game isn't working are more successful.

 

[Fredd]

oh, but for another few feet.....had the Orton pass led Austin instead of being behind him, we could be talking about what happened in our home playoff game....he didn't, and we lost...but it doesn't change the fact that we needed to get down the field in a hurry with under 2 minutes to go....had they completed that pass, they have the ball around mid-field with plenty of options....

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

oh, but for another few feet.....had the Orton pass led Austin instead of being behind him, we could be talking about what happened in our home playoff game....he didn't, and we lost...but it doesn't change the fact that we needed to get down the field in a hurry with under 2 minutes to go....had they completed that pass, they have the ball around mid-field with plenty of options....

Had we won that game we would be talking about how we didn't run enough this weekend. More so than not running enough, not running at the right times.

 

[Nation]

We started on our 32 with 1:49 left and had only one timeout.

Do you know how many times this season any NFL team handed off the ball at or inside its own 40 when down by 1-8 points (needing one score to tie or win) with less than 2 minutes remaining? ZERO. That's right, there were 194 pass plays and zero rushing plays in those situations. Last year? Again, ZERO running plays (and 173 pass plays) in those situations. The year before that? ONE rush -- on a second-and-1 play after a 9-yard pass.

In fact, over the past five seasons, there have been ZERO runs on first-and-10 in those situations. NFL coaches have had 455 chances to call a running play and NOT ONE has done so.

Do you think there is a reason?

Thank you for doing this research instead of just deciding that because we lost the strategy was wrong.

 

[The Natural]

oh, but for another few feet.....had the Orton pass led Austin instead of being behind him, we could be talking about what happened in our home playoff game....he didn't, and we lost...but it doesn't change the fact that we needed to get down the field in a hurry with under 2 minutes to go....had they completed that pass, they have the ball around mid-field with plenty of options....

had they not given up a 10 point halftime lead to the Chargers..
had they not choked their last offensive possession against Denver..
had they not let Detroit go 80 yards with no timeouts and under a minute left..
had they not choked a 20 point halftime lead against Green Bay..

then week 17 would've been irrelevant and we would've been talking about a home playoff game, hell maybe even a first round bye. But this is your Dallas Cowboys under Jason Garrett

 

[arglebargle]

Thank you for doing this research instead of just deciding that because we lost the strategy was wrong.

That's groupthink for you. Just thumped by relevant research.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Didn't the Saints start with almost 5 minutes though? Dallas had about 2:30? I didn't get to see the end to either game (I was in India for Dallas-Philadelphia, and I was jetlagged for Philadelphia-New Orleans, but I think that much more time would allow you to be more flexible with what you're doing).

Yes...2:30 with timeouts and the two-minute warning. Plenty of time to run the ball. Dumb.....dumb decision. I was a JG fan prior to this season, think he is a decent motivator and understand how to build a team, but his game management SUCKS. He would make for a good G.M, but as a coach he is bush league.