San Antonio Spurs fined by league

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http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/30/spurs-fined-announcement/index.html

Offiicial Release
Posted Nov 30, 2012 6:05 PM

The NBA announced Friday that the San Antonio Spurs organization has been fined $250,000 for its decision to send four players home prior to the Spurs' Nov. 29 game in Miami. The Spurs' actions were in violation of a league policy, reviewed with the NBA Board of Governors in April 2010, against resting players in a manner contrary to the best interests of the NBA.

NBA Commissioner David Stern stated: "The result here is dictated by the totality of the facts in this case. The Spurs decided to make four of their top players unavailable for an early-season game that was the team's only regular-season visit to Miami. The team also did this without informing the Heat, the media, or the league office in a timely way. Under these circumstances, I have concluded that the Spurs did a disservice to the league and our fans."
 

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Bigger "disservice" to the fans than the league owned team winning the lottery? The first CP3 trade, Seattle losing a team or Tim Donaghy and NBA refs in general?

David Stern is a joke, I hope the spurs sue the league over them getting fined for an ex post facto law. I can't wait till that caricature of a commish retires

BTW, is this the worst era in terms of commissioners ever? You have stern at his cynical and egotistical peak, ditto for goddell, whom also preaches player safety, yet has horrible Thursday night games and wants to add 2 more games to the schedule as a clear money grab, a guy that has been around for 2 lockouts in less than a decade and a guy that decided it would be a great idea to make an exhibition game decide the home field advantage of the most important series in that sport! Unbelievable incompetence!
 

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MC KAos;4869579 said:
Bigger "disservice" to the fans than the league owned team winning the lottery? The first CP3 trade, Seattle losing a team or Tim Donaghy and NBA refs in general?

David Stern is a joke, I hope the spurs sue the league over them getting fined for an ex post facto law. I can't wait till that caricature of a commish retires

BTW, is this the worst era in terms of commissioners ever? You have stern at his cynical and egotistical peak, ditto for goddell, whom also preaches player safety, yet has horrible Thursday night games and wants to add 2 more games to the schedule as a clear money grab, a guy that has been around for 2 lockouts in less than a decade and a guy that decided it would be a great idea to make an exhibition game decide the home field advantage of the most important series in that sport! Unbelievable incompetence!

I refuse to pay it and tie it up in the courts. Al Davis style
 

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This is awful and ridiculous. Stern is a complete idiot and so on and so on. He ruined the NBA. Spurs fans might as well kiss a chance deep in the playoffs this year cause the refs will crush the spirits lol.Cuban learned his lesson well sort of lol
 

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juck;4869709 said:
This is awful and ridiculous. Stern is a complete idiot and so on and so on. He ruined the NBA. Spurs fans might as well kiss a chance deep in the playoffs this year cause the refs will crush the spirits lol.Cuban learned his lesson well sort of lol

Joey Crawford will ref every game in the playoffs watch!
 

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Stern was wrong in fining the Spurs, but Pop was wrong in waiting to announce hours before the game starts that he sent his four best players home before a big inter conference game.

He said he decided this back in June, if so he should have said something at some point weeks, or at least days before the game so that people could decided if they still wanted to go to the game. He could have even said so after the game Orlando, Instead he robbed the fans of that chance. Pop wasn't wrong for resting his players, he was wrong for waiting to the very last moment to say so before a game between the two best teams in the league.

Had this been the wolves on a sunday afternoon, no one would care, but this was against the Heat on Nat TV as the game going head to head with the NFL. Stern wasn't wrong for being mad at Pop, he was wrong for this stupid penalty which is only going to make pop stick to him even worse later..
 

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MC KAos;4869579 said:
Bigger "disservice" to the fans than the league owned team winning the lottery? The first CP3 trade, Seattle losing a team or Tim Donaghy and NBA refs in general?

David Stern is a joke, I hope the spurs sue the league over them getting fined for an ex post facto law. I can't wait till that caricature of a commish retires

BTW, is this the worst era in terms of commissioners ever? You have stern at his cynical and egotistical peak, ditto for goddell, whom also preaches player safety, yet has horrible Thursday night games and wants to add 2 more games to the schedule as a clear money grab, a guy that has been around for 2 lockouts in less than a decade and a guy that decided it would be a great idea to make an exhibition game decide the home field advantage of the most important series in that sport! Unbelievable incompetence!

Great post.. and yes to every single word of it.

:bow:
 

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dargonking999;4869786 said:
Stern was wrong in fining the Spurs, but Pop was wrong in waiting to announce hours before the game starts that he sent his four best players home before a big inter conference game.

He said he decided this back in June, if so he should have said something at some point weeks, or at least days before the game so that people could decided if they still wanted to go to the game. He could have even said so after the game Orlando, Instead he robbed the fans of that chance. Pop wasn't wrong for resting his players, he was wrong for waiting to the very last moment to say so before a game between the two best teams in the league.

Had this been the wolves on a sunday afternoon, no one would care, but this was against the Heat on Nat TV as the game going head to head with the NFL. Stern wasn't wrong for being mad at Pop, he was wrong for this stupid penalty which is only going to make pop stick to him even worse later..

Popp wasn't in the wrong at all, imo. Who cares about national TV? Teams aren't here to win ratings battles.. they are here to win games and win championships. Fining a team because they have a roster of old players and want to get them some rest throughout the season is just stupid. Plain and simple.

What you said is correct though.. which is why i have such a huge problem with it. If it was a game against the Wolves on a Sunday afternoon.. Stern wouldn't care. Yet because it was a nationally televised game and because of the opponent, they deserved to be fined?

BS.. if fans turn it on and see that the Spurs arn't playing a certain player and they don't want to watch, they can easily turn the channel. If they did, however, they would have missed out on a great game because the Spurs almost beat the Heat. Stern still got his great game.. yet because Popp decided to manage his roster like any coach in any league anywhere decides how to manage their roster.. he's fined a quarter of a million dollars.

Again.. complete BS.
 

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so any fine for Kevin Garnett for flopping and causing the shoving match in Boston the other day?
 

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If Pop or any other coach wants to bench the whole team for the whole season thats his right. He is the coach.
 

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StevenOtero;4869480 said:
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/30/spurs-fined-announcement/index.html

Offiicial Release
Posted Nov 30, 2012 6:05 PM

The NBA announced Friday that the San Antonio Spurs organization has been fined $250,000 for its decision to send four players home prior to the Spurs' Nov. 29 game in Miami. The Spurs' actions were in violation of a league policy, reviewed with the NBA Board of Governors in April 2010, against resting players in a manner contrary to the best interests of the NBA.

NBA Commissioner David Stern stated: "The result here is dictated by the totality of the facts in this case. The Spurs decided to make four of their top players unavailable for an early-season game that was the team's only regular-season visit to Miami. The team also did this without informing the Heat, the media, or the league office in a timely way. Under these circumstances, I have concluded that the Spurs did a disservice to the league and our fans."
Lost in all of this is the fact that the Spurs almost won the game. Yet more proof of the NBA's idiotic obsession with marketing individuals over teams.
 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--d...-culture-war-against-the-spurs-194828970.html

Here is a great Article about the real issue behind the fine. I did not know Stern has tried to undermine the Spurs before ouch. No wonder the NDA has been in a spiral Stern is a joke.
Read the article it will open some eyes about Stern that I did not even realize existed.

Before the emperor of the NBA leaves his Olympic Tower office, this is the holy war that those within the San Antonio Spurs' extended family expected David Stern to eventually wage on Gregg Popovich and his program's culture. The commissioner burped that terse, threatening statement promising "substantial sanctions" to the rogue state of his totalitarian nation on Thursday night. This has been a long time coming out of the commissioner's office.

And yet, once more, Stern's tossed a temper tantrum that left everyone around him embarrassed, humiliated and wondering why he insisted on staying until February of 2014. All these years, Stern and his underlings privately complained and moaned that no one wanted to watch the Spurs, that they destroyed his TV ratings, that they were uninteresting, unappealing and impossible to market to the masses.
 

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So stupid.


Absolutely one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen involving sports.


I hope the Spurs win the whole thing now (if my Thunder don't that is :) ) just so Stern will have to be there to hand them the trophy and eat it on National Television.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4870419 said:
So stupid.


Absolutely one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen involving sports.


I hope the Spurs win the whole thing now (if my Thunder don't that is :) ) just so Stern will have to be there to hand them the trophy and eat it on National Television.

I think my sports life would be complete if we won the title on the last time stern had to hand the trophy over and pop mentioned the rest we got on November 29th catapulted us to that point! I would need no other title from any of my teams after that point!
 

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That Heat game was clearly a set-up game by the league and Stern. The Spurs had a 10 day and 8 day road trip that ended with 4 games in 5 nights against the reigning Champs and face of the League (Lebron) that had 4 days rest for a nationally televised game. The league was trying to stick it to the Spurs and further elevate their poster child Lebron. If they truly wanted a marquee match-up for the nationally televised game, the schedule would have been a little more fair.

Pop knew exactly what they were trying to do and launched his own preemptive strike to show how he felt about what Stern was trying to do.

Pop was well within his right to make that decision to rest his players. Stern let his ego and own pettiness take over with that statement and subsequent sanction.
 

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football has 16 games......coaches decide who will play not the commissioner and there are no fines if someone is held out.

baseball and hockey dont fine you for holding out players to rest them.

however, in basketball, the commissioner wants to fine the Spurs......the funny thing is, the Spurs have done this a lot in the past, but never received a fine. Now all of a sudden there is a fine.

If I am the Spurs, I dont play the fine. I call Stern's bluff.
 

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Biggems;4871356 said:
football has 16 games......coaches decide who will play not the commissioner and there are no fines if someone is held out.

baseball and hockey dont fine you for holding out players to rest them.

however, in basketball, the commissioner wants to fine the Spurs......the funny thing is, the Spurs have done this a lot in the past, but never received a fine. Now all of a sudden there is a fine.

If I am the Spurs, I dont play the fine. I call Stern's bluff.

I am surprised how much the media has been on the Spurs side for this one they have been hammering Stern.

In fact Stern has once again hurt the credibility of the NBA. He can not retire fast enough.
 

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I started my disdain for him when Karl Malone was left almost untouched by the league for all of those elbows he would throw and connect to the heads of several opponents. Isiah Thomas needed 44 stitches to close the gash in his head. David Robinson got knocked out and then sprained his knee as he fell to the court. He almost knocked Duncan out. He took out some teeth from a few other players. Not only his elbows.....but he would also raise his knee and even his foot and kick defenders in their manhood all the time. Malone was a dirty, filthy scumbag and Stern gave him a simple slap on the wrist for his career.

Meanwhile, Duncan gets suspended a game for pushing a ref, when it should have been overlooked by the league. Duncan was running down the middle of the court and was looking back to the other end...when he turns around, one of the refs is right in front of him and he knocked the ref over. Duncan got ejected and suspended a game. It was totally bogus. Did Stern overturn the suspension and apologize for the ejection, NO.

If 0.4 would have happened the other way, and it was the Spurs who beat the Lakers, I guarantee that after that game, 0.4 would not be enough time to get a shot off. But since it benefited the Lakers and hurt the Spurs, it is still enough time to catch and shoot.

And it isnt just his hatred for the Spurs. Look how he let Dallas get hosed in the 2006 Finals. That was some of the worst officiating ever. The fact that he was making league decisions while being in charge of the Hornets.....and how they miraculously won the lottery.

Stern is pure scum
 

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This has been a long time coming. Pop takes bigger liberties in this manor than most other coaches and you really can't have this occur in this blatant of a way.

How do you think a random fan who saved up to take his son to his first Spurs game, only to find out every player his son knows was sent home feels?

Injuries are one thing, the end of the season is another and 1 guy is another thing, but 4 out of 5 guys is an insult to paying fans and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

And at the end of the day, it was a fine. Not a loss of draft picks, not a loss of cap space, but a fine. So why anyone would get upset is beyond me.
 

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Manwiththeplan;4873720 said:
This has been a long time coming. Pop takes bigger liberties in this manor than most other coaches and you really can't have this occur in this blatant of a way.

How do you think a random fan who saved up to take his son to his first Spurs game, only to find out every player his son knows was sent home feels?

Injuries are one thing, the end of the season is another and 1 guy is another thing, but 4 out of 5 guys is an insult to paying fans and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

And at the end of the day, it was a fine. Not a loss of draft picks, not a loss of cap space, but a fine. So why anyone would get upset is beyond me.

You fail to understand the situation and thus you dont have an issue with a fine. Stern has a history of trying to mess over the Spurs. Stern has a history of being shady. Pop and the Spurs are one of the classiest organizations in pro sports and are ran on the up and up. So we are upset cause Stern is a clown and a farce.
 
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