Scandrick and the "Star" position

[masomenos]

Can someone explain what that is all about? Will he be playing more as a safety in normal packages and then as slot in nickel and dime? Any info would be appreciated.

 

[proline]

Yes .

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm not sure we will get that answer until Sept. at the earliest.

Maybe that is Jerry's hook to sell more tickets.

 

[RamziD]

I'm not sure we will get that answer until Sept. at the earliest.

Maybe that is Jerry's hook to sell more tickets.

Yep. Seeing where Scandrick lines up on the field really makes me want to shellout the $1K for a ticket. :

 

[Hostile]

It's similar to when we had Mel Renfro and Cornell Green and we signed Herb Adderley. Green moved to this type of Safety position and was a star.

Green is one of the most under rated and under appreciated great Dallas Cowboys of all time. The man was a brilliant CB and he moved to Safety for the benefit of the team and he was still great.

 

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, I'd like to know what this Star is as well.

 

[masomenos]

It's similar to when we had Mel Renfro and Cornell Green and we signed Herb Adderley. Green moved to this type of Safety position and was a star.

Green is one of the most under rated and under appreciated great Dallas Cowboys of all time. The man was a brilliant CB and he moved to Safety for the benefit of the team and he was still great.

So is this something that you're on board with Hos, do you think Scandrick has the ability to make the same sort of impact as Green?

 

[Hostile]

So is this something that you're on board with Hos, do you think Scandrick has the ability to make the same sort of impact as Green?

Absolutely, this is about putting the best 11 guys on the field. Teams play so much 3 WR sets that having better coverage out there only helps you long run. This is a move designed to not force us to make the Nickel our base D.

Good move.

 

[hendog]

Absolutely, this is about putting the best 11 guys on the field. Teams play so much 3 WR sets that having better coverage out there only helps you long run. This is a move designed to not force us to make the Nickel our base D.

Good move.

So does this in effect move Hamlin to SS?

 

[mperfection]

To make this work, however, you really need corners who can excel in man-to-man coverage. I would imagine that the STAR position would leave little room for zone coverage, especially should a team start out in a 2-WR set, then move the TE out in a receiver position.

More than likely, our defense would have to react swiftly by either putting Hamlin on the TE and letting Scandrick cover the middle of the field, or quickly putting a bigger corner on the TE and letting Scandrick cover the receiver.

 

[Zaxor]

Absolutely, this is about putting the best 11 guys on the field. Teams play so much 3 WR sets that having better coverage out there only helps you long run. This is a move designed to not force us to make the Nickel our base D.

Good move.

I could not agree more

For years I have been asking the team to do something like this...

 

[Hostile]

So does this in effect move Hamlin to SS?

It actually moves to what I would call Center Field more than SS or FS. You basically put more emphasis on the ILBs to play the run and turn the DBs into tighter man coverage all across the field. You will see Hamlin blitz more than last year and you will probably see more Corner blitzes from time to time too. The reason is you don't have a lapse in coverage ability.

 

[Hostile]

To make this work, however, you really need corners who can excel in man-to-man coverage. I would imagine that the STAR position would leave little room for zone coverage, especially should a team start out in a 2-WR set, then move the TE out in a receiver position.

More than likely, our defense would have to react swiftly by either putting Hamlin on the TE and letting Scandrick cover the middle of the field, or quickly putting a bigger corner on the TE and letting Scandrick cover the receiver.

You are exactly right. This is going to put the CBs in the WRs faces and it forces us to read motions by the TE to limit his impact.

 

[Zaxor]

You are exactly right. This is going to put the CBs in the WRs faces and it forces us to read motions by the TE to limit his impact.

What I really like about going more man to man...(of course this is only possible with competent cover men) is it usually makes a QB hold the ball a half second longer...and I can think of many times in the last couple of years where just a half second more would have made a huge differance.

 

[Hostile]

What I really like about going more man to man...(of course this is only possible with competent cover men) is it usually makes a QB hold the ball a half second longer...and I can think of many times in the last couple of years where just a half second more would have made a huge differance.

It sure does, and it also should produce more turnovers hopefully. Which we really need to do if we are going to take a step up as a Defense and not just be the top Sacks team in the NFL.

 

[Zaxor]

It sure does, and it also should produce more turnovers hopefully. Which we really need to do if we are going to take a step up as a Defense and not just be the top Sacks team in the NFL.

If we can shorten the field like that we will win a lot of games

 

[EPL0c0]

Can someone explain what that is all about? Will he be playing more as a safety in normal packages and then as slot in nickel and dime? Any info would be appreciated.

Think Dallas could have a package where they drop into a 3-3-5 or a 4-2-5 formation?

UNM and UTEP use that defense; call the extra saftey the "Lobo" or "Miner" position respectively. It's most effective when the Dline can get a little pressure on the QB.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

So does this in effect move Hamlin to SS?

Yeah, he'd be the only true S on the field.

We're more or less running 3CBs and 1 S, if anything it'll allow the SS to be more versatile.

Think of what we had when Woodson and RW 38 were together. Woodson stayed in coverage and the SS could do his thing.

We'll see, it could be the other way around for more coverage.

 

[masomenos]

Absolutely, this is about putting the best 11 guys on the field. Teams play so much 3 WR sets that having better coverage out there only helps you long run. This is a move designed to not force us to make the Nickel our base D.

Good move.

Hmm, I like the sounds of that a lot. Given Scandrick's play as a rookie, it's obvious why they want to get him on the field more. This seems like it could be an excellent shift for our defense.

How do you think this will effect our draft strategy?

 

[burmafrd]

I think its just a matter of time when you will see 3 CBs starting and only one Safety= a SS.