Scientists: The chicken or the egg? (Solved)

[Boyzmamacita]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
British scientists claim to have solved the scientific, philosophical mystery

msnbc.com
updated 7/14/2010 6:17:55 AM ET


It is an age-old riddle that has perplexed generations: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Now British scientists claim to have finally come up with the definitive answer: The chicken.

The scientific and philosophical mystery was purportedly unraveled by researchers at Sheffield and Warwick universities, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

The scientists found that a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg, according to the paper Wednesday. The egg can therefore only exist if it has been created inside a chicken.

The protein speeds up the development of the hard shell, which is essential in protecting the delicate yolk and fluids while the chick grows inside the egg, the report said.

"It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," said Dr. Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, according to the Mail.

"The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation, but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he said.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Of course the Chicken was first. It had to be since the Chicken was a product of evolution. The very first species that was to become the Chicken did not come from an egg. The laying of eggs was an evolutionary change. The birth of all life sprang from amino acids combining into proteins. There are no eggs involved in that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
British scientists claim to have solved the scientific, philosophical mystery

msnbc.com
updated 7/14/2010 6:17:55 AM ET


It is an age-old riddle that has perplexed generations: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Now British scientists claim to have finally come up with the definitive answer: The chicken.

The scientific and philosophical mystery was purportedly unraveled by researchers at Sheffield and Warwick universities, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

The scientists found that a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg, according to the paper Wednesday. The egg can therefore only exist if it has been created inside a chicken.

The protein speeds up the development of the hard shell, which is essential in protecting the delicate yolk and fluids while the chick grows inside the egg, the report said.

"It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," said Dr. Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, according to the Mail.

"The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation, but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he said.

So then, how did the first chicken come to be? Was it by divine intervention?

More importantly, how the heck did that first chicken live long enough to create an egg without ending up in somebodies Iron Skillet, deep fried with Mashed Potatoes, Green Beans, White Gravy and Hot Butter Milk Biscuits on the side? See, this is the kind of crap scientist don't account for when they are coming up with these "Egg Head" theories.

 

[joseephuss]

Of course the Chicken was first. It had to be since the Chicken was a product of evolution. The very first species that was to become the Chicken did not come from an egg. The laying of eggs was an evolutionary change. The birth of all life sprang from amino acids combining into proteins. There are no eggs involved in that.

So, the egg evolved from monkeys.

 

[Chief]

:laugh2: at scientists studying stuff like this.

Read Genesis and save yourself a lot of time and money.

Prediction: This thread won't last long.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So, the egg evolved from monkeys.

Sort of. BP pinched one off. :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

Unless there's something more to it beyond this article, this obviously does not prove that the chicken came first.

If evolution works in gradual steps, then you have the situation of Species A gives birth to Species A+, which eventually gives birth to Species A++, A+++, etc. Eventually, somewhere down the line, Species A+ descendants become known as Species B.

However, the immediately preceding ancestor was not a Species B. It was some variation of Species A, which laid an egg and out came Species B.

Thus, the egg came first.

 

[ethiostar]

So then, how did the first chicken come to be? Was it by divine intervention?

More importantly, how the heck did that first chicken live long enough to create an egg without ending up in somebodies Iron Skillet, deep fried with Mashed Potatoes, Green Beans, White Gravy and Hot Butter Milk Biscuits on the side? See, this is the kind of crap scientist don't account for when they are coming up with these "Egg Head" theories.

Breaking News: The same British scientists have solved yet another age-old riddle involving our beloved domestic bird that has perplexed generations: Why did the chicken cross the road?

 

[joseephuss]

Breaking News: The same British scientists have solved yet another age-old riddle involving our beloved domestic bird that has perplexed generations: Why did the chicken cross the road?

Because I kicked the s out of it!

 

[joseephuss]

:laugh2: at scientists studying stuff like this.

Read Genesis and save yourself a lot of time and money.

Prediction: This thread won't last long.

Sort of. BP pinched one off. :laugh2:

Bringing up religion and picking on a mod. Yep, this thread won't last long.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Unless there's something more to it beyond this article, this obviously does not prove that the chicken came first.

If evolution works in gradual steps, then you have the situation of Species A gives birth to Species A+, which eventually gives birth to Species A++, A+++, etc. Eventually, somewhere down the line, Species A+ descendants become known as Species B.

However, the immediately preceding ancestor was not a Species B. It was some variation of Species A, which laid an egg and out came Species B.

Thus, the egg came first.

What about the species that wasn't born from an egg, yet laid one? Was that species defined as a chicken? I suppose if you nail it down to what is know as "today's chickens" then the egg did come first.

The question is at what point did the species known as the chicken become known as a chicken and was that before or after it evolved into an egg laying species.

Considering the debate exist in the first place, I will take that as the egg came first and the species earlier than that were undefined.

In the full scope of it, an animal laid an egg first and thus the animal came before the egg.. If the species was classified as a chicken, then the chicken was first.

 

[theogt]

What about the species that wasn't born from an egg, yet laid one? Was that species defined as a chicken? I suppose if you nail it down to what is know as "today's chickens" then the egg did come first.

The question is at what point did the species known as the chicken become known as a chicken and was that before or after it evolved into an egg laying species.

Considering the debate exist in the first place, I will take that as the egg came first and the species earlier than that were undefined.

In the full scope of it, an animal laid an egg first and thus the animal came before the egg.. If the species was classified as a chicken, then the chicken was first.

I don't know of any other way to define the chicken.

If the question is -- which came first, an animal or a chicken egg? Then obviously the answer is an animal. But that's not the question.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Unless there's something more to it beyond this article, this obviously does not prove that the chicken came first.

If evolution works in gradual steps, then you have the situation of Species A gives birth to Species A+, which eventually gives birth to Species A++, A+++, etc. Eventually, somewhere down the line, Species A+ descendants become known as Species B.

However, the immediately preceding ancestor was not a Species B. It was some variation of Species A, which laid an egg and out came Species B.

Thus, the egg came first.

What?

 

[peplaw06]

Unless there's something more to it beyond this article, this obviously does not prove that the chicken came first.

If evolution works in gradual steps, then you have the situation of Species A gives birth to Species A+, which eventually gives birth to Species A++, A+++, etc. Eventually, somewhere down the line, Species A+ descendants become known as Species B.

However, the immediately preceding ancestor was not a Species B. It was some variation of Species A, which laid an egg and out came Species B.

Thus, the egg came first.

Only theo could disprove the British scientists' theory in 6 sentences.

On a related note... The egg must be incubated in order for the chick to actually hatch, correct? If the egg really came first, how was it incubated?

 

[hairic]

The egg came first, if you're referring to birds.

Birds don't lay eggs because they choose to. They got it from their ancestors, fish/reptiles.

If you ask "Which came first, the first successful egg laying animal or the egg?", then the answer is the animal.

 

[zrinkill]

Read Genesis and save yourself a lot of time and money.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That did not take long.