Scouting the Saints

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One thing that makes the NFL so fun is the reality that every opponent each week is a new challenge. What happened last week does not guarantee the same performance - good or bad - will happen every week.

So this week we face the Saints, fresh off their thumping of the hapless Carolina Panthers in their opener. Last year the saints were 9-8, barely missing the playoffs by losing the NFC South to Tampa Bay. This year the saints start their third season under head coach Dennis Allen, who has a 16-18 record as HC in NO. Allen’s seat is considered warm going into year 3. An interesting side note about Allen is he is from the Dallas area, attending LD Bell High School in Hurst and later Texas A&M.

The saints are attempting to rebuild after the departures of future HOF QB Drew Brees (2020) and probable HOF HC Sean Payton (2021). Their talent cupboard is neither full nor empty. In 2023 the 9-8 saints were 14th in total offense and 13th in total defense.

ALL TIME RECORD VS SAINTS: Cowboys lead all time series 18-13.
  • This has been a streaky series. Cowboys won the first 7 games and the saints won 6 in a row in the early 2000s.
  • Since 1998, the saints are 8-4 against Dallas.
  • The Cowboys won the last matchup in 2021 played in NO, 27-17.
SAINTS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES
STRENGTHS
  • He’s not great, but Saints QB Derek Carr is good. He’s 73-87 all time as a starter, mostly for the raiders who had mostly bad teams when Carr was there. Carr’s last start against us was in 2021 when he was with raiders' beating us 36-33 on Turkey Day. He threw for 373 yards that day so he can sling it around. And Carr was 19-23 in the Panthers game showing good accuracy.
  • RB Alvin Kamara is 29, older than Zeke, but has shown he has enough in the tank to still be above average. He rushed for 85 yards last week and is still an excellent receiver out of the backfield.
  • PR/KR Rashid Shaheed is an outstanding punt and kick returner. He was a pro bowler last year and is a real weapon in the return game.
  • Rookie LT Taliese Fuaga saints rookie LT has a bright future and had a great game against the panthers.
  • LB Willie Gay, Jr- has a SB ring with KC and has been a solid LB in NO.
WEAKNESSES
  • Both sides of the ball they are above average but not spectacular. Offensively, their OL is young and has several new members.
  • Their secondary has injuries- S Tyrann Matthews and CB Marshawn Lattimore are hurt and may not play. Both are older and not nearly as effective as years past.
  • They have had some problems last year with K Blake Grupe who is back this year after being 30-37 on FGs last year. He started off this year going 4-4 so has improved to start the year.
BOTTOM LINE: This is a game the Cowboys should win. We have a talent advantage on both sides of the ball. I expect the saints to keep it close in the first half but I think the Cowboys shou,d wear them down.
 

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"The saints are attempting to rebuild after the departure of future HOF QB Drew Brees and probable HOF HC Sean Payton"

Drew Brees has been gone since 2020 and Payton 2021!
 

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"The saints are attempting to rebuild after the departure of future HOF QB Drew Brees and probable HOF HC Sean Payton"

Drew Brees has been gone since 2020 and Payton 2021!
I understand that. But they are still rebuilding after both their departures. I went back and added the exact years of their respective departures.
 

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Our defense is going to have to step up and get some turnovers for this game, feels like Saints shutdown our offense everytime we play them.
 

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Remember when the Saints were so bad, their fans would go to the games with bags over their heads!! LOL
I worked with a guy in South Florida. This was before both TB and NO had any type of success.
He said he was a Joe Montana fan, so people accused him of being a band wagon SF fans, as they just won the 1989 SB.

He said, hey I like Notre Dame, so was a Joe fan, but did not care for SF. And to give him credit, his 2 favorite teams were the Saints and Buccs as he lived most of his life in those two cities. And if he was a band wagon fan, why would he admit to that.
 

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I worked with a guy in South Florida. This was before both TB and NO had any type of success.
He said he was a Joe Montana fan, so people accused him of being a band wagon SF fans, as they just won the 1989 SB.

He said, hey I like Notre Dame, so was a Joe fan, but did not care for SF. And to give him credit, his 2 favorite teams were the Saints and Buccs as he lived most of his life in those two cities. And if he was a band wagon fan, why would he admit to that.
I remember those early Tampa Bay years!!! They were a mess!!! I felt so sorry for them and their fans!!! LOL
 

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I'd love to see their rookie LT get Parsons this week and see how good he really is
 
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