Scouts Inc. - Will Gordon, Gurley go in Round 1?

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The 2015 running back class could be the deepest we've seen at the position in the past 10 years. However, overall the group did not run well during Saturday's workouts at the NFL combine. Only three backs clocked sub-4.5 seconds in the 40-yard dash, compared to 10 from last season. To be fair, two of the top prospects in the class -- Georgia's Todd Gurley and Indiana's Tevin Coleman -- weren't able to work out due to injury, so that took some of the star power off the field.

Is this the year that we again see a running back drafted in the first round? And which guys could emerge as good midround values? Let's take a look.


Will Gordon and/or Gurley go in the first round?

The top-ranked running back on our board, Wisconsin's Melvin Gordon, turned in solid but not great results. The 6-foot-1, 215-pound back had a 40-yard dash time of 4.52; a broad jump of 10 feet, 6 inches; and a vertical jump of 35 inches. All were either average or above-average. Gordon showed well in terms of agility. While his 7.04 three-cone drill time was adequate, his 4.07 in the short shuttle was well above-average and the second quickest of the entire group. Gordon also displayed good body control and smooth feet through bag and cone drills.

Gordon and Gurley are in the mix to end a two-year drought of not having a running back selected in the first round. However, both come with question marks. Gordon has adequate vision, underrated lateral agility and an explosive short-area burst, but he has just average versatility in the passing game. He caught the ball well during Saturday's drills, but he also appeared to lack ideal body control in adjusting to throws, and he doesn't look to have natural hand-eye coordination bringing the ball in. Teams considering drafting him will have to feel comfortable that he can improve in this area.

The concerns with Gurley have to do with his durability, most recently the torn ACL he suffered in November. He has a bruising, upright running style, which could leave him vulnerable to further punishment, and the information that comes out regarding his knee will play a role in where he is ultimately selected. But based on his tape, he is one of the premier talents in this entire class. At 6-1 and 222 pounds, he has an excellent combination of size, speed and power, and he has rare versatility for a bigger back.

The good news for Gordon and Gurley is that there are multiple teams selecting in the late first round -- including the Ravens (No. 26), Cowboys (27), Colts (29) and Seahawks (31) -- who could potentially be in the market for a running back. Each back has a chance to be drafted in the first round.


Two sleeper prospects emerge in Indy

Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah (5-9, 205) is one of the more elusive and versatile backs in this class. While he had an average 40-yard dash time of 4.60, he turned in outstanding results in the jumps and agility tests, which speaks to his elusiveness and short-area quickness to create yards on his own. He was tops among all running backs in the vertical jump (42.5 inches), broad jump (10 feet, 10 inches), short shuttle (3.95) and three-cone drill (6.79). Abdullah comes with some durability and ball-security issues, but he should land in somewhere in the Day 2 range.

Northern Iowa's David Johnson (6-1, 224) turned in 25 reps on the bench test, a 4.50 40-yard dash, a 41.5-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-7-inch broad jump -- all of which point to his explosiveness and power for a runner. In addition, his 6.82-second three-cone drill was above-average and one of the more important tests for a bigger back. Johnson also displays very good versatility on tape and continued to catch the ball well during the drill work portion of the workout. He is a great example of a small-school prospect who has taken full advantage of the postseason process by creating a buzz within scouting circles. He could be drafted in the Day 2 range before it's all said and done.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to us drafting two running backs. One in the first three rounds and another later on in the draft. I love Gurley, but if we don't go that route, I would love to see us pick David Johnson. Watched him play against Iowa and he killed it. Can run, catch and block. A true three down back.
 

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I absolutely love the tape on Gurley. He has everything you could want in a RB with enough speed to hit the hole. Probably one of the better pass blocking RBs and has shown good route running and pretty good hands. He will be a 3 down back in the NFL. The thing with him is will he play in 2015? If he has to miss this season he should go in the 2nd. If he goes on PuP and can play the 2nd half he's a late 1st early 2nd to me. Either way the Cowboys will likely need to bring in another RB if Gurley is the pick and possibly another later in the draft or at least a Vet to compete with Randle/Williams and be that 3rd down back.
 

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I absolutely love the tape on Gurley. He has everything you could want in a RB with enough speed to hit the hole. Probably one of the better pass blocking RBs and has shown good route running and pretty good hands. He will be a 3 down back in the NFL. The thing with him is will he play in 2015? If he has to miss this season he should go in the 2nd. If he goes on PuP and can play the 2nd half he's a late 1st early 2nd to me. Either way the Cowboys will likely need to bring in another RB if Gurley is the pick and possibly another later in the draft or at least a Vet to compete with Randle/Williams and be that 3rd down back.

Healthy Gurley behind this line.

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I'm good with either at 27. Abdullah in 2. Coleman in three. Still haven't made up my mind on Duke
 

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As far as what rounds I would pick the running backs and which one's I'd pick it all depends on if we draft one or two running backs and if we keep Murray or not.

If we don't keep Murray, there are only five targets for me.

First round options
1. Gurley (if physical checks out).
2. Gordon

Second round options
3. Jay Ajayi
4. Telvin Coleman

Third round selection
5. David Johnson

I like Abdullah and Duke Johnson are specialty backs to me. I worry about them holding up in pass protection due to their height. I would certainly consider picking them, but not at the point where everyone else is. I haven't studied the running back from Michigan State yet, but am excited about that as well. He appeared to have a pretty consistent college career and his speed at the combine was impressive.
 

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Forgot about Ajayi. I'd take him in 2 as well
 

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I absolutely love the tape on Gurley. He has everything you could want in a RB with enough speed to hit the hole. Probably one of the better pass blocking RBs and has shown good route running and pretty good hands. He will be a 3 down back in the NFL. The thing with him is will he play in 2015? If he has to miss this season he should go in the 2nd. If he goes on PuP and can play the 2nd half he's a late 1st early 2nd to me. Either way the Cowboys will likely need to bring in another RB if Gurley is the pick and possibly another later in the draft or at least a Vet to compete with Randle/Williams and be that 3rd down back.

Yes, Gurley is special. It would be hard to pass on him despite him being doubtful to play game 1.

I'm not as impressed with Gordon as most people.
 

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Yes, Gurley is special. It would be hard to pass on him despite him being doubtful to play game 1.

I'm not as impressed with Gordon as most people.


At 27 I think he would be far and away the best talent left if he's there. I wouldn't shy away from him to reach for a defensive player when talent could be had that helps the defense rds 2-4(DT is pretty deep). I also am not enamored with Gordon. He's barely ahead of Ajayi on my board and would rather trade down from 27 and target Ajayi than stay put and take Gordon.
 

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At 27 I think he would be far and away the best talent left if he's there. I wouldn't shy away from him to reach for a defensive player when talent could be had that helps the defense rds 2-4(DT is pretty deep). I also am not enamored with Gordon. He's barely ahead of Ajayi on my board and would rather trade down from 27 and target Ajayi than stay put and take Gordon.

Yes, they need to resolve the primary defensive player needs in free agency. The biggest downside to Gurley is that they have to have options to carry the load until he is healthy. Personally, I think Ryan Williams and Randle will be OK to start the season but it is a risk. Williams looked really good in the preseason and the Cowboys originally had him ranked higher than Murray in that draft.

I guess they could sign a lower tier free agent RB, but I'm not sure any of those would be better than Williams/Randle. I see many RBs that people are gushing about in this draft that don't have as good of college game footage as Randle and definitely not as good as Williams.
 

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Yes, Gurley is special. It would be hard to pass on him despite him being doubtful to play game 1.

I'm not as impressed with Gordon as most people.

Man! You completely stole my answer!

If Murray is gone and Peterson not signed, I would have no qualms about taking Gurley at #27, but Gordon doesn't impress me, especially enough to draft him where he's rated to go.

Gurley's vision and ability to quickly process information is truly impressive.
 

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sorry but Gordon has great vision,he really is the 2nd best back in the draft.
 

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I love Gurley, but can he carry the load next year? I think Duke Johnson will produce when he's on the field, but he must be rotated. M
 

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I love Gurley, but can he carry the load next year? I think Duke Johnson will produce when he's on the field, but he must be rotated. M


Very few rookie RBs come in and carry the team their first season healthy or not. I saw a report, I think it was from Brugler but cant remember, that Gurley would be able to participate in TC if he has no set backs. Still doubt he would be a go game 1 but be ready durin the season.
 

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Very few rookie RBs come in and carry the team their first season healthy or not. I saw a report, I think it was from Brugler but cant remember, that Gurley would be able to participate in TC if he has no set backs. Still doubt he would be a go game 1 but be ready durin the season.

At this point my feeling is that Gurly will go on the PUP to start the season and be back week 7. Anything more than that would be a bonus.
 

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Yes, Gurley is special. It would be hard to pass on him despite him being doubtful to play game 1.

I'm not as impressed with Gordon as most people.
Agreed, but I've read that Wisconsin zone blocks like we do. That being said, wouldn't Gordon be a natural fit running behind our OL? We should be able to plug and play him right away. All those yards DM29 left on the field? Long TD runs with this kid.
 

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Agreed, but I've read that Wisconsin zone blocks like we do. That being said, wouldn't Gordon be a natural fit running behind our OL? We should be able to plug and play him right away. All those yards DM29 left on the field? Long TD runs with this kid.

Gordon is a good scheme fit, IMO. I believe both go in the first. Gurley is a special back, just need knee to check out.
 

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My question is which one of the two can best run between the tackles. And that is Gurley
 

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I like Abdullah and Duke Johnson are specialty backs to me. I worry about them holding up in pass protection due to their height. I would certainly consider picking them, but not at the point where everyone else is. I haven't studied the running back from Michigan State yet, but am excited about that as well. He appeared to have a pretty consistent college career and his speed at the combine was impressive.

DJ is 6'1. He's tall enough.
 

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Gordon will go before Gurley because he's ready to play now. I think the Lions will grab Gordon before we have a chance to pick him. But that may be a blessing in disguise because that will leave Gurley available to us. Assuming we address the defensive line in the draft, we pick up the BPA, and that's Gurley. I don't think he'll be ready Day 1, but that's okay. We let him fully heal (I think Georgia rushed him back from his suspension too early and gave him a huge workload, and he just wasn't ready), and then unveil him to spell Murray (if he's with us) or Peterson (who I think will be signed if Murray bolts), and let opposing defenses have to contend with the two. Talk about wearing defenses down then making them susceptible to the Romo-to-Dez (yes, he'll be back) connection?

We can use the second, third and fourth picks (don't we have two?) to restock the defense (DE, DT, CB/S) and find some developmental talent for the OL.
 
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