SD Injuries

[JD_KaPow]

LT King Dunlap suffered a concussion in yesterday's game.
LG Chad Rinehart left the game with turf toe and did not return.
RT D.J. Fluker missed yesterday's game with a concussion.

They may all return next week of course, and I know Ware has faced backups before without going crazy (ususally because the backups are given a lot of help), but I must admit that my first thought upon seeing this was: Yum.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

LT King Dunlap suffered a concussion in yesterday's game.
LG Chad Rinehart left the game with turf toe and did not return.
RT D.J. Fluker missed yesterday's game with a concussion.

They may all return next week of course, and I know Ware has faced backups before without going crazy (ususally because the backups are given a lot of help), but I must admit that my first thought upon seeing this was: Yum.

Fluker hasn't been anything to write home about.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Fluker hasn't been anything to write home about.

he dominated jj watt

 

[MichaelWinicki]

he dominated jj watt

Hmm.

No.

JJ Watt rang up a +7.2 vs SD per PFF.
Fluker was a -3.7 vs Hou per PFF.

 

[jnday]

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Hmm.

No.

JJ Watt rang up a +7.2 vs SD per PFF.
Fluker was a -3.7 vs Hou per PFF.

I will give you credit for sticking with the PFF garbage even when you know it is a joke.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

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I will give you credit for sticking with the PFF garbage even when you know it is a joke.

LOL!

Like I've said right along, I'll consider anyone else's rankings... Just have to see some.

 

[AbeBeta]

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I will give you credit for sticking with the PFF garbage even when you know it is a joke.

Their ratings may be a "joke" in terms of precision -- but when you see a spread like that it is pretty clear who won the battle

 

[speedkilz88]

Fluker hasn't been anything to write home about.

He seems to have problems with quickness.

 

[jnday]

LOL!

Like I've said right along, I'll consider anyone else's rankings... Just have to see some.

There really is a need for media outlet that could provide realistic grading. PFF is terrible, especially when it comes to oline grading.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

There really is a need for media outlet that could provide realistic grading. PFF is terrible, especially when it comes to oline grading.

I understand the limitations that they are facing such as they do not know the assignments of the players they are looking at. That's obvious.

But they take what we do, i.e. watch an NFL game at another level by watching each play/player much more intently. I would say that most of us never watch all the NFL games on any given weekend. Nor do we watch them that intently (other than the Cowboys) and even when we do watch that intently it's impossible to watch all the players at the same time with the same level of interest.

If the PFF grading system was that flawed we would see it in the ranking grades (after a sufficient number of games have been played) in that guys that aren't universally acknowledged by fans and media as being good... would be ranked much better than what they are. And that guys that are good... wouldn't be. In other words the rankings would be far more at odds with what is generally acknowledged by the media and fans. But the rankings hold pretty true to the beliefs that most share. For example last season Free and Bern were both ranked low. Costa was ranked very low in 2011. Smith was ranked high in 2011 and more middling of the pack in 2012. The bottom line is that the better players are on top and the worse players are on the bottom. That in itself would seem to indicate that the PFF grading system has some merit on some level and isn't a complete cluster.

 

[DogFace]

I understand the limitations that they are facing such as they do not know the assignments of the players they are looking at. That's obvious.

But they take what we do, i.e. watch an NFL game at another level by watching each play/player much more intently. I would say that most of us never watch all the NFL games on any given weekend. Nor do we watch them that intently (other than the Cowboys) and even when we do watch that intently it's impossible to watch all the players at the same time with the same level of interest.

If the PFF grading system was that flawed we would see it in the ranking grades (after a sufficient number of games have been played) in that guys that aren't universally acknowledged by fans and media as being good... would be ranked much better than what they are. And that guys that are good... wouldn't be. In other words the rankings would be far more at odds with what is generally acknowledged by the media and fans. But the rankings hold pretty true to the beliefs that most share. For example last season Free and Bern were both ranked low. Costa was ranked very low in 2011. Smith was ranked high in 2011 and more middling of the pack in 2012. The bottom line is that the better players are on top and the worse players are on the bottom. That in itself would seem to indicate that the PFF grading system has some merit on some level and isn't a complete cluster.

Excellent.

 

[Risen Star]

Hmm.

No.

JJ Watt rang up a +7.2 vs SD per PFF.
Fluker was a -3.7 vs Hou per PFF.

 

[Risen Star]

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I will give you credit for sticking with the PFF garbage even when you know it is a joke.

It's sad to see, really.

I'd sooner call my mom and ask who the better player is than go this poindexter route of over analysis from the calculator crowd.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You forgot to post your own ratings from the Charger/Texan game...

Please hit me with an "Alert" when you have them up!

 

[Risen Star]

You forgot to post your own ratings from the Charger/Texan game...

Please hit me with an "Alert" when you have them up!

Yeah, we've gone thru this time and time again. I don't need to have my own ratings. I have eye balls and a brain. I don't need to log into a website to find out what I think of a player. Somehow football fans, intelligent ones, were able to follow and evaluate their own sport long before that steaming pile of a website showed up.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah, we've gone thru this time and time again. I don't need to have my own ratings. I have eye balls and a brain. I don't need to log into a website to find out what I think of a player. Somehow football fans, intelligent ones, were able to follow and evaluate their own sport long before that steaming pile of a website showed up.

And what is your "eye-ball" take from the Texan/Charger game on the Fluker/Watt matchup?

 

[Future]

He seems to have problems with quickness.

Not a surprise considering the fact that he ways a billion pounds lol

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I couldn't care less if Fluker or Dunlap are on the field. Neither one of them are all world or anything.

 

[jnday]

Not a surprise considering the fact that he ways a billion pounds lol

He is full of nasty . Fluker will be fine after getting used to the speed of the pro game. When he does, he will be very good. Size and strength is something that can't be taught.

 

[MrMom]

@UTgehlken: Chargers who did not practice: LT Dunlap (concussion), LG Rinehart (toe), RG Clary (clavicle), WR Floyd (neck), CB Wright (hamstring).