Season is upon us. how will they do?

[Wilson]

Season is upon us. how will they do?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Without knowing what impact injuries can have including our opponents injuries and how the team is playing as well as our opponents very difficult to make any future predictions.

Week to week is the only logical way. Now if you want to make predictions for the season without knowing these crucial factors , ok. But I’d imagine any of these factors throughout the season would impact your original thoughts.

Instead I’d suggest focusing on predicting each game which is tough enough on its own in the NFL.

We’re an underdog this Sunday. Not expected to win. But Browns have some key injuries with Chubb’s out and Watson still ailing with his shoulder after surgery. This definitely limits their offense effectiveness . And should make it easier for our defense to defend .

Offensively our greatest matchup and concern is can our Rookie OL defend Garrett and Browns defense. I think that’s where the game can be won or loss. If we can’t establish a ground game and or protect our QB, could be a long afternoon.

I think it will be a tough game. Given their injuries I like our chances better than originally. But I’m leaning toward taking Cleveland giving 2 1/2 points. Good news is if can stay healthy I like our chances of bouncing back next week against the Saints

Might be a FG fest.

 

[Sydla]

There's little logic in how these tiers are constructed, to me, but .500 in Tier II is negative just for the sake of being negative, because Atlanta and Pitt are terrible. You're predicting that they'll lose all but one game that's basically a toss up at this point in 1 and 2. If they split DET and SF like last year, you would essentially have them losing to Bal, Cin, Cle, and Hou - all flawed teams with the same lack of postseason success.

They could go 0-8 in those games for all we know, but there is no logic for this type of prediction.

Here's the logic.

- We typically go 5-1, 4-2 at worst in the division in recent years

- 1-3 in Tier 1 is based on the fact this team went 1-3 last year in their four toughest games (non-divisional) losing to the 49ers, Miami and Buffalo (plus getting smoked in the playoffs) and only beating Detriot

- 2-2 in Tier 3 is based on the fact three of the four are on the road and we were 4-5 on the road last year. We also got smoked by a bad Arizona team so concluding the Steelers stink so we couldn't possibly lose on the road is kind of silly. Further, Atlanta will likely be more improved with Cousins at QB. So nah, 2-2 over that stretch of 4 games isn't all that negative or unrealistic.

 

[Sydla]

Divisional Games
Tier I Games - Ravens, Lions, @ 49ers, Texans
Tier II Games - @ Steelers, @ Browns, @ Falcons, Bengals
Tier III Games - Saints, @ Panthers, Bucs

I usually split division games 3-3. However Dallas has had success in the division winning more than losing.
l will go 4-2, though it could be 5-1 again. Until we see if Wash or NY actually improved.

Are the Texans really a tier 1, based on the year they had, just one year. Maybe they take a step back. Like the Giants, 2022 a great year, made the playoffs. Not so great last year.
Are the Ravens a tier 1 team as well. I am not ready to say that. If so, then the Bengals can push to be one as well.
They had more success than the Ravens the past few years.

Not so sure Falcons are a tier 2 team. Is Cousins that good to elevate them?
Steelers? Not so sure either, can Wilson elevate them. They been very fortunate the past several years to win.

I predicted 11-6. Could be 12-5 and surprise. But would not be surprised if 10-7. Just too many unknowns.

Falcons are in Tier II because Cousins gives them better QB play and we are so-so on the road. If that game was in Dallas, I'd have them in Tier III.

 

[Sydla]

There is no logic. It's saying "I think this is a 10-win team" and reverse engineering a way to get there.

You must be a total hoot at parties.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Here's the logic.

- We typically go 5-1, 4-2 at worst in the division in recent years

- 1-3 in Tier 1 is based on the fact this team went 1-3 last year in their four toughest games (non-divisional) losing to the 49ers, Miami and Buffalo (plus getting smoked in the playoffs) and only beating Detriot

- 2-2 in Tier 3 is based on the fact three of the four are on the road and we were 4-5 on the road last year. We also got smoked by a bad Arizona team so concluding the Steelers stink so we couldn't possibly lose on the road is kind of silly. Further, Atlanta will likely be more improved with Cousins at QB. So nah, 2-2 over that stretch of 4 games isn't all that negative or unrealistic.

I get what you're trying to do, but it's a bunch of false equivalencies. There's no real logic to the ideas that road games in Buffalo and Miami in December are comparable to home games against Baltimore and Houston or that a fluke to Arizona is predictive of anything this year. You're also assuming that a) Dallas gets worse and b) other teams don't and, as most of this board does, ignoring wins. You're basically saying "forget Seattle and LAR, I only care about games they lose."

So yea, there's no real logic.

 

[Aven8]

According to the unofficial depth chart on cowboys site Zeke is the starter. Going backwards is so much fun……

 

[Sydla]

I get what you're trying to do, but it's a bunch of false equivalencies. There's no real logic to the ideas that road games in Buffalo and Miami in December are comparable to home games against Baltimore and Houston or that a fluke to Arizona is predictive of anything this year. You're also assuming that a) Dallas gets worse and b) other teams don't and, as most of this board does, ignoring wins. You're basically saying "forget Seattle and LAR, I only care about games they lose."

So yea, there's no real logic.

On paper, yes, I think Dallas is worse. Their TBs are worse. The OL is starting two new guys who could take weeks to really get their feet under them. Their DT position is not great. Bland got hurt. And their is way less quality depth at DE.

So yeah, I actually think m on paper the team is a little worse.

And as for your Seattle Rams comment, that’s why I look at games in pools as opposed to just picking individual games/
.

 

[Bobhaze]

IMO…With 4 rookies starting, this team will need some time and patience to develop. Thinking that any rookie (no matter how gifted and “ready” they may be) is completely ready for the prime time of NFL regular season action is a stretch.

This is still a talented team and I do like our rookies. But we have 8 new starters on both sides of the ball, a new defensive scheme and a bottom tier RB room.

On top of all that, it’s been a crazy off-season where the front office seemed to want every key person associated with this team - the head coach, coaching staff and starting QB to be hung over a cliff as if that’s the best way to motivate them. Everyone’s job is on the line except those at the very top who are the architects of everything associated with this team. When the people at the top are never accountable for their own work, it creates a dysfunctional organization. Thus, the last 28 years.

For those reasons, I see this team as a playoff contender but not a divisional winner. I see it as a 9-8 team who might make the playoffs but that’s probably the ceiling.

Just being honest. Sincerely hope I’m wrong but that’s my honest answer.

 

[morat1959]

And with the #3 pick overall the Cowboys select QB.....................

Jaxson Dart…Ole Miss…it’s a pipe dream!

 

[CWR]

Many people go game by game and try to predict. I like to break the teams into groups:

Divisional Games

Tier I Games - Ravens, Lions, @ 49ers, Texans

Tier II Games - @ Steelers, @ Browns, @ Falcons, Bengals

Tier III Games - Saints, @ Panthers, Bucs

So conservatively:

4-2 in division
1-3 in Tier I
2-2 in Tier II
3-0 in Tier III

That's 10 wins and what I kind of expect. Maybe squeak out 2-2 in those Tier 1 games since three are at home to get to 11 wins. Then again we seem to spit a bad game here or there so maybe the range is 9-11 wins.

I think given the front loaded schedule, there are going to be some growing pains with the OL and Zimmer and the D. Three of their first 7 games are against the Ravens, Lions and 49ers.

I think you're on the money. Our season likely goes as far as WC or divisional round.

 

[jazzcat22]

There is no logic. It's saying "I think this is a 10-win team" and reverse engineering a way to get there.

Same as someone saying it is a 5 win team, and trying to engineer that as well?
Usually with some lame reasons.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I'm ok with this, I even voted 11-6 record on the poll thread. My goal every year is to sweep the division. I know it's not easy but it is a huge advantage coz I don't worry about the rest schedule knowing we will find 3-5 more wins.

 

[1time4urMind]

Many people go game by game and try to predict. I like to break the teams into groups:

Divisional Games

Tier I Games - Ravens, Lions, @ 49ers, Texans

Tier II Games - @ Steelers, @ Browns, @ Falcons, Bengals

Tier III Games - Saints, @ Panthers, Bucs

So conservatively:

4-2 in division
1-3 in Tier I
2-2 in Tier II
3-0 in Tier III

That's 10 wins and what I kind of expect. Maybe squeak out 2-2 in those Tier 1 games since three are at home to get to 11 wins. Then again we seem to spit a bad game here or there so maybe the range is 9-11 wins.

I think given the front loaded schedule, there are going to be some growing pains with the OL and Zimmer and the D. Three of their first 7 games are against the Ravens, Lions and 49ers.

I like the way you break it down. It works way better for me than predicting game by game.
Its a really good point about the growing pains. I have to admit, I don't know what to expect this year. It's kind of exciting. Hopefully it's still exciting in week 12!

 

[JReed1000]

They will win 11-12 games....

 

[stiletto]

11-12 wins will be over achieving. Harder schedule, lost some veteran pieces. I am thinking 8-9 wins. 10 wins would be a good season IMO given all the player losses and harder schedule.

 

[DuncanIso]

Many people go game by game and try to predict. I like to break the teams into groups:

Divisional Games

Tier I Games - Ravens, Lions, @ 49ers, Texans

Tier II Games - @ Steelers, @ Browns, @ Falcons, Bengals

Tier III Games - Saints, @ Panthers, Bucs

So conservatively:

4-2 in division
1-3 in Tier I
2-2 in Tier II
3-0 in Tier III

That's 10 wins and what I kind of expect. Maybe squeak out 2-2 in those Tier 1 games since three are at home to get to 11 wins. Then again we seem to spit a bad game here or there so maybe the range is 9-11 wins.

I think given the front loaded schedule, there are going to be some growing pains with the OL and Zimmer and the D. Three of their first 7 games are against the Ravens, Lions and 49ers.

Good stuff.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Many people go game by game and try to predict. I like to break the teams into groups:

Divisional Games

Tier I Games - Ravens, Lions, @ 49ers, Texans

Tier II Games - @ Steelers, @ Browns, @ Falcons, Bengals

Tier III Games - Saints, @ Panthers, Bucs

So conservatively:

4-2 in division
1-3 in Tier I
2-2 in Tier II
3-0 in Tier III

That's 10 wins and what I kind of expect. Maybe squeak out 2-2 in those Tier 1 games since three are at home to get to 11 wins. Then again we seem to spit a bad game here or there so maybe the range is 9-11 wins.

I think given the front loaded schedule, there are going to be some growing pains with the OL and Zimmer and the D. Three of their first 7 games are against the Ravens, Lions and 49ers.

I got them 9-8/8-9 this year. I don't see any way they could be as good as they last 3 years. They have two play makers on offense, and they lost too much in the way of pass rushers. Starting 2 rookies on the OL isnt going to be the home run some think either. For 2024, Beebe and Biadasz will probably be a wash. However if someone thinks Guyton is going to walk in and be as good or better than Smith was in 2023, they are seriously disrespecting Smith. And I like Guyton