Season over if Lions win tomorrow?

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I know a lot on here will attack me for this, but I still think with our remaining schedule we can go 10-6 (waits for inevitable Jim Mora posts here). So the question is, will that be enough? I think between the Saints and Panthers there will be two playoff teams, I don't see those two teams being bad enough to get to 10-6 (the Panthers possibly though that would likely involve a loss to the Falcons which would be bad considering they have head to head on us and even then it's a stretch).

That leaves one wild card, and the way I see it 4 teams in contention for it, the Lions, Falcons, Seahawks... and yes the Cowboys. The Falcons have a murderers row ahead of them in the last 6 games playing the Saints twice, Bucs twice (which can be a tough out), Panthers, and Vikings, they can easily finish 9-7. I just don't think the Seahawks are the same team now with so much of their defense out, and we can get head to head on them (which if we do that, they likely finish 10-6.

That leaves the Lions... and I just don't see any way whatsoever that they go 2-3 in their last 5 with games against the Ravens, Bucs, Bears, Bengals, and the Rodgerless Packers (he goes on IR as soon as they are eliminated which will happen soon) as none of those teams have a winning record right now. To make matters worse we will likely not have the conference record tiebreaker against them. It's quite possible it's already over as I could see them sweeping those teams to an 11-5 record even if they do lose tomorrow. As much as I hate to say it as I have an annoying Vikings fan for a brother... I think we need the Vikings to win tomorrow or we need to win out which I don't think is possible (even with a favorable December schedule... wow when have I ever said that).
 

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Oh another scenario that could save our hides if the Vikings lose tomorrow is... the Vikings collapse. I would love this scenario because of the aforementioned annoying Vikings fan brother, and it's not impossible. Their next 3 weeks are really hard, and they still have Case Keenum at QB and an iffy Bridgewater backing him up. For now I would consider this impossible... but if they lose to Lions Falcons and Panthers and suddenly have the same overall and conference record as us (assuming we manage to win... which is not for sure, especially not without Lee)... maybe not totally impossible. That's probably out best chance if the Lions happen to win tomorrow.
 

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Oh another scenario that could save our hides if the Vikings lose tomorrow is... the Vikings collapse. I would love this scenario because of the aforementioned annoying Vikings fan brother, and it's not impossible. Their next 3 weeks are really hard, and they still have Case Keenum at QB and an iffy Bridgewater backing him up. For now I would consider this impossible... but if they lose to Lions Falcons and Panthers and suddenly have the same conference record as us one game up... maybe not totally impossible. That's probably out best chance if the Lions happen to win tomorrow.

I think the post is basically saying we need the Vikings to win so the Lions don’t take the last playoff spot...
 

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I think the post is basically saying we need the Vikings to win so the Lions don’t take the last playoff spot...
Possibly. ESPN has the Vikings as underdogs against both the Falcons and Panthers with both of those games on the road. The problem is who else do they lose to? Bengals and Bears seem unlikely... so we would probably be reliant on winning out (not sure if that would work) or the Packers getting Rodgers back.
 

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It's over, either way.
So we would miss the playoffs for sure at 11-5? At 10-6? I am sorry I don't think that record is impossible, or even all that unlikely. With a healthy Smith and Lee we will be favored 5 of the last 6 games, possibly all 6 if the Eagles decide to bench their starters week 17. I ain't heard no bell no matter what Mora might say!

P.S. After playing around with playoff machine a bit... no way do we get a tiebreaker on the Vikings or Lions (unless they lose to the Packers week 17)... so that does complicate things a bit. Certainly our best bet is for the Lions to lose tomorrow and against the Packers.
 

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How will the season be over if Detroit wins tomorrow? If Detroit wins and we win then they are 7-4 and we are 6-5. That's a one game difference with five to go. If you think that's hopeless then you obviously don't have much experience with the NFL. We have no idea how Detroit will fare in its final five games. Upsets happen every week in the NFL. A key player could get injured and doom their season. Anything could happen. The doom and gloom on this board has to stop.
 

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How will the season be over if Detroit wins tomorrow? If Detroit wins and we win then they are 7-4 and we are 6-5. That's a one game difference with five to go. If you think that's hopeless then you obviously don't have much experience with the NFL. We have no idea how Detroit will fare in its final five games. Upsets happen every week in the NFL. A key player could get injured and doom their season. Anything could happen. The doom and gloom on this board has to stop.
Fine over is the wrong word (but if you think I am the doom and gloom one you don't know me very well... or this board very well), the problem is tiebreakers which we lack against many of the big teams (other than possibly the Panthers or Lions if they lose to the Packers). The Lions just have a very favorable January schedule, and I don't see us getting said tiebreaker unless Rodgers comes back (which seems unlikely) meaning we would likely have to win out to stand a chance. That just worries me a lot. Interestingly enough... this probably makes me the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan outside of Green Bay as they can help us a ton by beating 2 teams ahead of them.
 

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If we lose tomorrow and Lions win then it would be over.
Probably that for sure... though ironically I have us going 10-6... and if we are to lose a game, best for it to be against a non-conference opponent... but 3 losses in a row would probably just be too much.
 

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Fine over is the wrong word (but if you think I am the doom and gloom one you don't know me very well... or this board very well), the problem is tiebreakers which we lack against many of the big teams (other than possibly the Panthers or Lions if they lose to the Packers). The Lions just have a very favorable January schedule, and I don't see us getting said tiebreaker unless Rodgers comes back (which seems unlikely) meaning we would likely have to win out to stand a chance. That just worries me a lot.

It's an uphill climb and we may not make it in the end, but I can't give up at this stage. There's still a decent chance we can turn this around. Also, I'm not meaning to target you specifically. I'm speaking more to the overall mood of this board. Sorry if there was confusion.
 

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It's an uphill climb and we may not make it in the end, but I can't give up at this stage. There's still a decent chance we can turn this around. Also, I'm not meaning to target you specifically. I'm speaking more to the overall mood of this board. Sorry if there was confusion.
That's cool. I actually posted this to show how we do have a shot at the playoffs. Though also playing around with playoff machine showed me that it's not exactly impossible for us to catch up to the Panthers either... but would probably require winning out as they have 3 really tough games ahead.
 

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That's cool. I actually posted this to show how we do have a shot at the playoffs. Though also playing around with playoff machine showed me that it's not exactly impossible for us to catch up to the Panthers either... but would probably require winning out as they have 3 really tough games ahead.

Winning out is a possibility. With Tyron back I think we are better than our next four opponents. After that we get Zeke back and play a beat up Seattle and an Eagles team that may have everything wrapped up. There's still a lot of possibilities ahead of us.
 

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It's okay to root for the teams that are ahead of us To lose.
But the key is can the Cowboys win out or only lose one game out of 6 ?
that is the key can they do that?. If the Cowboys can't win the next three games and or win out the season it doesn't matter what the other teams do.
I think Dallas really needs to win all the remaining games and finish 11 - 5 to have a chance at the wild card 10 - 6 might get them in but it is unlikely.

It does depend on what our wc
Rivals do, the more they lose, gives Dallas more leeway.
 

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If you have to worry about other teams winning or losing after 10 games played........there are larger issues at hand. Bottom line is that Dallas has to win tomorrow no matter what anyone else does.
 
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