Season Review: Wrong Decisions by Cowboys/Parcells

Kalyan

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Looking back at our season, I think the 2 wrong decisions made by Parcells are releasing Steve Hoffman when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker and releasing Jeff Robinson to save 800k (cheap) when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker. What do you think the Cowboys could have done differently?
 

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ykc said:
Looking back at our season, I think the 2 wrong decisions made by Parcells are releasing Steve Hoffman when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker and releasing Jeff Robinson to save 800k (cheap) when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker. What do you think the Cowboys could have done differently?

Why was Hoffman going to kick for us? If our kickers are that messed up in the head that they can't kick easy FG I seriously doubt Hoffman was going to make a differance one way or the other. Cundiff had been working with Hoffman prior to returning to Dallas evidently it did not do a bit of good. Bottom line is Cundiff got a chance and he blew it!
 

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Totally agree with you on, but you are about to get inundadted with people disagreeing with you.

I, for one, think that the kicking position is WAAAYYY under-rated. Kickers, in this day and age, are VERY important. More and more games are closer than ever.

How many games did we lose this year due to a missed kick etc.

Yes, I also agree that you don't leave the game up to the kicker, but that doesn't matter....sometimes, the kicker is all that you have to rely on.

3-4 games? What would our record be now? Yep....it's way past time that JJ takes the kicking position more seriously and pays for excellence in this position.
 

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Why was Hoffman going to kick for us? If our kickers are that messed up in the head that they can't kick easy FG I seriously doubt Hoffman was going to make a differance one way or the other. Cundiff had been working with Hoffman prior to returning to Dallas evidently it did not do a bit of good. Bottom line is Cundiff got a chance and he blew it!

You seriously have no idea what Hoffman did during games.

Notice you said that Cundiff was working with Hoffman PRIOR to returning to Dallas....that's right....and Cundiff kicked VERY WELL. What happened afterwards? So it did ALOT of good for Cundiff....he had his mechanics sound.....it got him back on the team.

Hoffman kept the mechanics of kickers sound....the kept them mentally ready.

Now, the kicker and punter just stands around of the sidelines getting bored and then when it comes down to go kick, they get all nervous.l

Jimmy Johnson was right when he said that this was BP's fault in letting Hoffman go. I agree with Jimmy.
 

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Hoffman was working with no name kickers for the last 10 years here in Dallas and they never were this bad. It's just not Cundiff and it's different working with them during the week before the game and during the games than working with him in the past. Coaches don't play the game either, so your argument would be that it doesn't matter who the coaches are, we should be able to win with Barry Switzer/Campo/...
 

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Jimz31 said:
Totally agree with you on, but you are about to get inundadted with people disagreeing with you.

I, for one, think that the kicking position is WAAAYYY under-rated. Kickers, in this day and age, are VERY important. More and more games are closer than ever.

How many games did we lose this year due to a missed kick etc.

Yes, I also agree that you don't leave the game up to the kicker, but that doesn't matter....sometimes, the kicker is all that you have to rely on.

3-4 games? What would our record be now? Yep....it's way past time that JJ takes the kicking position more seriously and pays for excellence in this position.

I agree Dallas will have to invest in a kicker
 

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I have no problem with letting Hoffman go...we were one of the few teams that had a coach JUST for the kicker and nobody else.

The problem becomes, as you mentioned, is when you don't have a legit kicker...I am hoping this get's fixed in the offseason.

Think about hoffman though....was Cundiff great last year...he may not have been bad but he was not great.

Just somethign to think about.

I am hoping that next year we will have AV or MJ in here kicking.

If we are going to play a brand of football that will be close, than we need a legit kicker and I could think of no better than AV in clutch situations.
 

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ykc said:
Hoffman was working with no name kickers for the last 10 years here in Dallas and they never were this bad. It's just not Cundiff and it's different working with them during the week before the game and during the games than working with him in the past. Coaches don't play the game either, so your argument would be that it doesn't matter who the coaches are, we should be able to win with Barry Switzer/Campo/...

Then Dallas needs to get a kicker who can hold up. Dallas is the only team that had both a special teams coach and a kicking coach. Save the money on the kicking coach and pay a bit more to get decent kicker. Even with Hoffman our kickers have not been that great compared to the top kickers in the league.
 

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Ya know, if you had started this thread a week ago, you probably would have gotten a whole lot of "picking Ware instead of Merriman" responses. Funny how things change week to week. :D
 

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IMO, kicker is our top priority this coming off-season.

(I'm assuming Flo comes back healthy.)

After a kicker, I'd say we need a OT and a FS.

But our lack of a quality kicker has directly led to at least 2 losses this season.
 

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Yep it was the one area that will be the reason we miss the playoffs, bottom line league, kicking game was better with Huffman, spend the frickin money, and we got cheap with Robinson, another mistake, totally agree with todays NFL a kicker is everything man. to have these guys(Cowboys) play so hard and loose by a foot wide is so unfair and just stupid, changes will be made, Jerrah and BP get it, unfortunantly it may be too late..
 

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ykc said:
Looking back at our season, I think the 2 wrong decisions made by Parcells are releasing Steve Hoffman when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker and releasing Jeff Robinson to save 800k (cheap) when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker. What do you think the Cowboys could have done differently?

Also you have to keep in mind, the decision to keep Robinson probably had to do with having to choose between having Robinson on the roster or having a Special Teams guy on the roster.

I think the biggest debacle was his decision making at Offensive Tackle.
 

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ykc said:
Looking back at our season, I think the 2 wrong decisions made by Parcells are releasing Steve Hoffman when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker and releasing Jeff Robinson to save 800k (cheap) when you don't have Adam Vineteri like kicker. What do you think the Cowboys could have done differently?

why are we looking at the negative

stay positive people!
 

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Billie Cundiff had all the physical qualifications for a great kicker, he was just so insecure he flinched when he needed to deliver the goods.

The original intent in bringing in the kicking coach was so they could get by with a cheaper kicker and put the cap dollars into other players - they weren't looking for a highly paid, highly skilled pro. Personally, I would prefer a kicker with more confidence and a more assertive attitude.

As important as kickers and punters have become, better get a couple of good ones and stick with them and support them. And while you're at it, quit browbeating them and build some confidence in them.

Are you listening to me, Bill Parcells? Honestly, sometimes I think you don't listen to me at all. I may as well be talking to a brick wall with man boobs. :rolleyes:
 

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notherbob said:
Billie Cundiff had all the physical qualifications for a great kicker, he was just so insecure he flinched when he needed to deliver the goods.

The original intent in bringing in the kicking coach was so they could get by with a cheaper kicker and put the cap dollars into other players - they weren't looking for a highly paid, highly skilled pro. Personally, I would prefer a kicker with more confidence and a more assertive attitude.

As important as kickers and punters have become, better get a couple of good ones and stick with them and support them. And while you're at it, quit browbeating them and build some confidence in them.

Are you listening to me, Bill Parcells? Honestly, sometimes I think you don't listen to me at all. I may as well be talking to a brick wall with man boobs. :rolleyes:

I know the feeling......:D
 

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I hated to see the kicking coach go. I think he did a good job for us over the years. Yet, I don't know what all went into the decision to let him go. There are other decisions I don't agree with but what would the Cowboys record be if I were the HC?
Probably 0-15.

Why do some people always pick at the negatives and never enjoy the positives? A WR can catch 10 passes in a game and score 2 TDs but if he drops one pass, more comments will made about the dropped pass than the 2 TDs.

I'm sure if we were to win the SB, unless we blew them out somebody would complain that we didn't win with a wide enough margin and bring up the margin of win when Jimmy was here.

We might be knowledgable fans but we don't know all of the ins and outs and behind the scene's stuff that goes on that brought about some of the decisions. And I'm sure after a season and a HC evaluates a season he makes notes of the decisions that went wrong. We are all human and so are coaches. And so are the posters on this board.
 

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i was'nt a fan of letting hoofman go but i think the injuries were a bigger problem than the coach.hoffman has done a great job of developing kickers, but then again billy is one of them and he has lost it mentally.had billy stayed healthy who knows, he played fairly well last year
 
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