Seattle loses hearing, could lose Hutchinson

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SEATTLE (March 20, 2006) -- The Seahawks must match the guarantee provision in the seven-year deal offered to All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson by the Minnesota Vikings if the NFC champions want to keep their transition player.

An attorney for the NFL's players' union confirmed that a special master ruled against Seattle, saying a provision guaranteeing all of the contract in an offer sheet Hutchinson signed with Minnesota should he not be the team's highest-paid offensive lineman is valid.

"The Seahawks lost," NFL Players Association general counsel Richard Berthelsen said.

League spokesman Michael Signora said that the Seahawks had until midnight ET to match the Vikings offer or lose Hutchinson to Minnesota.
Berthelsen attended a two-hour hearing March 20 in Philadelphia on the matter.

The Vikings' seven-year offer, which Hutchinson signed on March 12, would be the richest deal ever given to a guard. And this ruling means it just got richer.

The Seahawks had argued that because they have recently re-negotiated Pro Bowl left tackle Walter Jones' seven-year contract by adding an eighth, voidable year, Jones' team-best lineman deal now has an annual value below that of Hutchinson's offer.

After the re-negotiation, Jones' annual base salary would dip to just below Hutchinson's annual average if Seattle matched Minnesota's offer. The Seahawks argued they should not have to guarantee the rest of Hutchinson's new deal.

Berthelsen said special master Stephen Burbank did not elaborate in his ruling.

But Berthelsen said the decision validated the NFLPA's stance that the conditions at the time Hutchinson signed the offer sheet with the Vikings are the conditions Seattle must match -- meaning Hutchinson wasn't the highest-paid Seahawks linemen then, so Seattle must guarantee all of the Vikings' deal to match it.

"They wanted to put in additional language to make it from any point from now until the end of the 2006 league year," Berthelsen said. "That is contrary to the intent of the wording that was in the contract.

"And the special master agreed."

The Seahawks did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.
 

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There is definately going to be an addition to the collective bargaining agreement to prevent teams from pulling this type of BS in the future.
 

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Seahawks | Lose out on Hutchinson ruling
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:36 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/21">Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports "special master" Stephen Burbank ruled against the NFL Management Council and the Seattle Seahawks Monday, March 20, in their attempt to match the Minnesota Vikings' offer to OLG Steve Hutchinson under altered terms. The ruling means the Seahawks have until midnight Tuesday, March 21, to match the Vikings' offer to Hutchinson, or he will become a Viking.
 

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I think there is a good possibility we will be saying "hello Mr Brown" real soon.
 

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Cbz40 said:
I think there is a good possibility we will be saying "hello Mr Brown" real soon.

doubt it.

i just can't see them matching here. 50 million guaranteed is wicked.

the league will however kiss their butts with a big time compensatory draft pick - look for them to get an extra pick after round 1. book it.
 

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I hope you ain't talking about Orlando Brown, he can't see therefore can't block.
 

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Cbz40 said:
I think there is a good possibility we will be saying "hello Mr Brown" real soon.
au contraire. they now have the cap space to match brown's deal if we get to sign him.
 

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abersonc said:
doubt it.

i just can't see them matching here. 50 million guaranteed is wicked.

the league will however kiss their butts with a big time compensatory draft pick - look for them to get an extra pick after round 1. book it.


I can see that happening as well. A OL like Steve Hutchinson however, is difficult to replace.
 

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I think they have already reworked the Walter Jones contract to keep Hutchinson. This would make Hutchinson the highest paid OL on the team. Its just a freaking numbers game. This is all silliness.

I think this is why CBZ said we would be seeing Mr. Brown sometime soon.

I think the old far is right.

Look for Seattle to match and retain Hutchinson.
 

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Dallas said:
I think they have already reworked the Walter Jones contract to keep Hutchinson. This would make Hutchinson the highest paid OL on the team. Its just a freaking numbers game. This is all silliness.

I think this is why CBZ said we would be seeing Mr. Brown sometime soon.

I think the old far is right.

Look for Seattle to match and retain Hutchinson.

It is the $50 mill guarantee that is the issue - they have no problem with the contract otherwise. NFL contracts just don't come guaranteed like that.
 

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I see nothing wrong with this Minnesota played by the rules in place. Seattle has absolutely no one to blame but themselves. They didn't franchise him and they probably won't match his contract because they screwed up.

I think this really hurts out chances of getting Josh Brown. They are gonna match nearly anything we throw out there now. Unless we make the deal guaranteed if a player on the team leads the NFL in TDs. LOL
 

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This is a pretty big chunk to pay for a lineman. They have to guarantee the whole thing- if he gets injured they are really screwed. I think they will pass.
 

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Dallas said:
I think they have already reworked the Walter Jones contract to keep Hutchinson. This would make Hutchinson the highest paid OL on the team. Its just a freaking numbers game. This is all silliness.

I think this is why CBZ said we would be seeing Mr. Brown sometime soon.

I think the old far is right.

Look for Seattle to match and retain Hutchinson.
Even though they restructured its too late when he signed the contract Jones was the highest paid player on the team. Restructuring doesn't change that. 50 million guaranteed is 15 million more than Peyton Manning. WOW.
 

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Dallas said:
I think they have already reworked the Walter Jones contract to keep Hutchinson. This would make Hutchinson the highest paid OL on the team. Its just a freaking numbers game. This is all silliness.

I think this is why CBZ said we would be seeing Mr. Brown sometime soon.

I think the old far is right.

Look for Seattle to match and retain Hutchinson.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2377065


NFLPA attorney says Seahawks redo Jones' dealAssociated Press


SEATTLE -- The Seattle Seahawks have apparently maneuvered themselves into position to keep All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson, an attorney for the NFL's players' union said Monday.

Hutchinson's contract was the subject of a hearing in Philadelphia where a special master was to decide how much of the Minnesota Vikings' offer the Seahawks must match to keep Hutchinson, considered a key to Seattle's run to the Super Bowl this year.

The Vikings seven-year offer included $16 million guaranteed and would be the richest deal ever given to a guard.

But the contract also contained a provision that would guarantee the entire $49 million if Hutchinson is not the team's highest-paid offensive lineman at any time after the first year of the contract. The league and the Seahawks argued on Monday that Seattle didn't have to match that provision.

But Richard Berthelsen, an attorney for the NFL Players Association who attended the hearing, told The Associated Press that the Seahawks told the special master on Monday that the team had restructured the contract of six-time Pro Bowl tackle Walter Jones, currently Seattle's highest-paid offensive linemen, to avoid the conflict.

Jones received $54.5 million -- with up to $20 million in a signing bonus and incentives -- over seven years to remain a Seahawk last April.

Berthelsen said the Seahawks told the special master that Jones had agreed to add an eighth, voidable year to his deal. That would mean Jones' annual base salary would dip to $6.81 million -- just below Hutchinson's $7 million annual average if Seattle matched Minnesota's offer. Thus, the Seahawks would not have to guarantee the rest of Hutchinson's new deal.

The Seahawks did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.
 

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Sounds like the Seahawks trumped them on that one. Josh Brown may be in our grasp afterall.
 

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Dallas said:
I think the old far is right.

I just got a mental image of Walter Brennan chasing you in his walker and gumming you to death.

CBZ, if you want to file a complaint for age discrimination, I am behind you brother ol' guy!

:D
 

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fortdick said:
I just got a mental image of Walter Brennan chasing you in his walker and gumming you to death.

CBZ, if you want to file a complaint for age discrimination, I am behind you brother ol' guy!

:D


"Originally Posted by Dallas
I think the old far is right."

I think he might have forgotten I only allow my friends to refer to me as "Old Far"........:)
 
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