Second Round High Risk Home run swinging

[Blitzen]

Jaylon is just the latest in a long line of of failed big swings that the big decision makers on the team has made. Doubling down on dumb decisions and and rewarding loyalty and hard work can come back to hurt the team. I would say that I hope they are learning or have learned something from these bad choices, but since it seems to be a pattern I would expect more decisions like this in the future.

Major injury concern and character issue (of the kind that put into question the player's desire to play professional football) guys should not be drafted in the first or second rounds (and I would argue 3rd or 4th rounds) no matter their upside. If you do happen to take the risk, allow their contract to go to the final year before deciding on an extension.

It is absurd that the team even gave Jaylon an extension when they did. I agree that no one needs to dance on the player's grave. Just gotta hope that a tiny amount of behavior change happens, and they minimize large contract and draft pick mistakes... Maybe Kelvin Joseph actually becomes even a solid starter or better.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Well Diggs is a 2nd round pick and I love that guy. So maybe they're turning it around

 

[zrinkill]

Uhhhhh Diggs?

 

[ChronicCowboy]

The Jaylon contract was dumb but nothing compared to the Tank one. Both those deals have held the defense back.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The Jaylon contract was dumb but nothing compared to the Tank one. Both those deals have held the defense back.

You can’t be serious?

 

[Risen Star]

A Trevon Diggs hate thread was not expected.

 

[CATCH17]

Remember when we used to argue about Jaylons nerve damage?

 

[ConstantReboot]

I wasn't on board when we signed Dan Quinn. I thought he would be nothing more than a Nolan clone.

But he as totally revamped the entire defense. Not only personnel wise but the culture.

Only someone like Dan Quinn can make a decision to let Jaylon go. He was Jerry's pet.

Goes to show how much they have given the coach and his coordinators a lot of power.

I blame Jerry for messing up with Jaylon's contract.

But you give him a pat on the back for empowering our coordinators to do what they do best without meddling.

 

[Zekeats]

Jaylon wasnt worth it they woulda been better off with Myles Jack and everyone knew it at the time. Most had teams taking a chance on Jaylon in the 4th maybe end of the 3rd.

 

[john van brocklin]

Jaylon is just the latest in a long line of of failed big swings that the big decision makers on the team has made. Doubling down on dumb decisions and and rewarding loyalty and hard work can come back to hurt the team. I would say that I hope they are learning or have learned something from these bad choices, but since it seems to be a pattern I would expect more decisions like this in the future.

Major injury concern and character issue (of the kind that put into question the player's desire to play professional football) guys should not be drafted in the first or second rounds (and I would argue 3rd or 4th rounds) no matter their upside. If you do happen to take the risk, allow their contract to go to the final year before deciding on an extension.

It is absurd that the team even gave Jaylon an extension when they did. I agree that no one needs to dance on the player's grave. Just gotta hope that a tiny amount of behavior change happens, and they minimize large contract and draft pick mistakes... Maybe Kelvin Joseph actually becomes even a solid starter or better.

Good points
I think Sean Lee gave the front office false expectations on the second round gambles
Even he missed a lot of games however.

 

[Blitzen]

A Trevon Diggs hate thread was not expected.

Did Diggs have an injury or character concern that I'm not aware of?

 

[Blitzen]

Uhhhhh Diggs?

Diggs had major injury or character concerns prior to the draft?

 

[WillieBeamen]

Besides Diggs, Conor Williams, and hopefully Bossman, I havent been a fan of our 2nd round picks in a decade

 

[AbeBeta]

Jaylon is just the latest in a long line of of failed big swings that the big decision makers on the team has made. Doubling down on dumb decisions and and rewarding loyalty and hard work can come back to hurt the team. I would say that I hope they are learning or have learned something from these bad choices, but since it seems to be a pattern I would expect more decisions like this in the future.

Major injury concern and character issue (of the kind that put into question the player's desire to play professional football) guys should not be drafted in the first or second rounds (and I would argue 3rd or 4th rounds) no matter their upside. If you do happen to take the risk, allow their contract to go to the final year before deciding on an extension.

It is absurd that the team even gave Jaylon an extension when they did. I agree that no one needs to dance on the player's grave. Just gotta hope that a tiny amount of behavior change happens, and they minimize large contract and draft pick mistakes... Maybe Kelvin Joseph actually becomes even a solid starter or better.

Yeah. Like those losers Sean Lee and Randy Gregory. Preach brother!

 

[Praxit]

The Jaylon contract was dumb but nothing compared to the Tank one. Both those deals have held the defense back.

...I still think Tanks contract is the worse. THat one made no sense, only Jerry panicking about so called War Daddy.

 

[Fletch]

Remember when we used to argue about Jaylons nerve damage?

Yeah. That was sweet.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jaylon is just the latest in a long line of of failed big swings that the big decision makers on the team has made. Doubling down on dumb decisions and and rewarding loyalty and hard work can come back to hurt the team. I would say that I hope they are learning or have learned something from these bad choices, but since it seems to be a pattern I would expect more decisions like this in the future.

Major injury concern and character issue (of the kind that put into question the player's desire to play professional football) guys should not be drafted in the first or second rounds (and I would argue 3rd or 4th rounds) no matter their upside. If you do happen to take the risk, allow their contract to go to the final year before deciding on an extension.

It is absurd that the team even gave Jaylon an extension when they did. I agree that no one needs to dance on the player's grave. Just gotta hope that a tiny amount of behavior change happens, and they minimize large contract and draft pick mistakes... Maybe Kelvin Joseph actually becomes even a solid starter or better.

Yep, always guys with first round grades with some kind of injury/off the field issues.

 

[JJHLH1]

Jaylon got his extension because Jerry made Dak play out his contract.

Instead of using that money to extend Dak early Jaylon got paid.

Expensive mistake times two.

 

[Blitzen]

Yeah. Like those losers Sean Lee and Randy Gregory. Preach brother!

I hope Randy fulfills expectations that began 6 years ago. And Sean missed like a third of the games while playing (and I thought very highly of him).

 

[ultron]

Here is the breakdown of 2nd round draft picks that the Cowboys have taken in the last 2 decades

2020 Trevon Diggs, CB Good rookie season. On pace to receive a second contract.
2019 Trysten Hill, DT Disappointment through two seasons.
2018 Connor Williams, G Three-year starter, likely won’t get a second contract in Dallas.
2017 Chidobe Awuzie, CB Four-year starter, signed three-year deal with Cincinnati.
2016 Jaylon Smith, LB Pro Bowl player in 2018 / signed five-year, $64 million extension in 2019.
2015 Randy Gregory, DE Suspended for about as many games as he’s played since being drafted.
2014 DeMarcus Lawrence, DE Signed a five-year, $105 million extension in 2019.
2013 Gavin Escobar, TE Poor scheme and temperament fit.
2012 No selection Pick traded to Rams in move to select Morris Claiborne.
2011 Bruce Carter, LB Started 32 games in four seasons before being benched.
2010 Sean Lee, LB Arguably, the Cowboys’ best 2nd round pick in the last 20 years.
2009 No selection Pick traded to Buffalo for 3rd and 4th round selections.
2008 Martellus Bennett, TE Cowboys never figured out how to pair him with Jason Witten.
2007 No selection Pick traded to Cleveland for package of multiple picks.
2006 Anthony Fasano, TE Started 136 games in 12-year career, but only 10 in two seasons in Dallas.
2005 Kevin Burnett, LB Serviceable backup and special teamer / did not receive a second contract.
2004 Julius Jones, RB Rushed for 3,484 yards and 18 TDs in four seasons in Dallas.
2004 Jacob Rodgers, OT Worst 2nd round pick in the last 20 years. He played only two NFL games.
2003 Al Johnson, C Started 31 games in three seasons in Dallas.
2002 Andre Gurode, C/G Started 122 games in nine seasons in Dallas.
2002 Antonio Bryant, WR Caught 99 passes for 1,549 yards and eight touchdowns in 37 games, spanning 2.5 tumultuous seasons.
2001 Quincy Carter, QB Started 31 games in three seasons with 29 TDs and 36 INTs before being cut in training camp before the 2004 season.
2001 Tony Dixon, DB Started 15 games in four seasons.
2000 Dwayne Goodrich, CB Played 26 games before a vehicular manslaughter charge and prison sentence ended his career.