Serious question about the Fujita trade.

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Tass said:
You guys keep inferring that KC wanted faster LBs. Fujita runs a 4.43 40. LBs don't get much faster than that!

Now that's an eye-opening point. If Fujita is fast than speed could not have been the reason for his release. Also, I don't buy the argument of replacing a proven player with a couple of guys with (gasp) "potential". Therefore I cna only conclude his release from KC had somrthing to do with that shoulder injury and I hope the Dallas media does its due dilligence to inquire into that.

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
Now that's an eye-opening point. If Fujita is fast than speed could not have been the reason for his release. Also, I don't buy the argument of replacing a proven player with a couple of guys with (gasp) "potential". Therefore I cna only conclude his release from KC had somrthing to do with that shoulder injury and I hope the Dallas media does its due dilligence to inquire into that.

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He is a bit of a straight-line runner. I think because of his length his agility is not great and he is a bit of a liability in coverage. He is good at the point of attack and a solid tackler. Also has some pass rush skills.
 

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Eskimo said:
He is a bit of a straight-line runner. I think because of his length his agility is not great and he is a bit of a liability in coverage. He is good at the point of attack and a solid tackler. Also has some pass rush skills.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure his change of direction skills aren't as good as Ware or Burnett. However, if he's playing to rush the passer and run support he probably does allright. Our 3-4 is probably a better fit for him, too.
 

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He's had a shoulder injury, and even though the Chiefs brought in Bell and drafted Johnson, I am still concerned whether or not Fujita's shoulder is, or ever will be, 100%. While I would like to think that his shoulder is ready to go, I'm wondering if his shoulder was more of a factor in the Chiefs trading him than they want to admit to.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
Everyone, I'm really confused over this Fujita trade. Why would the Chiefs be so eagre to receive virtually nothing for such a solid player like Fujita? Yes, perhpas they planned to release him anyway and this way they get sometrhing for him, but, why intend to release him at all if he's been the only bright spot on a bad Defensive unit? What's wrong with Fujita that we don't yet know about? For example, from Dallas' perspective, the knock on Bryant was that he was a headcase; the knock on Coakley was that he was too small; etc. My point is that we gave up on good players because we wanted to shed the "knocks" against them. So what's the knock on Fujita from KC's perspective? Dallas had a screaming need for an upgrade at OLB that the Chiefs could have gotten much more than 6th and 7th conditional picks from us if theyv wanted to. Yet they basically chiose nothing just to cut bait with Fujita sooner than later. So what gives; what do they know about him, that's negative, that we don't?

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Just think of him as another version of Dexter Coakley. He's still a solid player who can contribute, he just doesn't fit in with the new defense. Same for Fujita and Gunther Cunningham. I also think GC never saw him play healthy.

Doh! Nevermind, I see someone else already explained it like this. ;)
 

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Tass said:
You guys keep inferring that KC wanted faster LBs. Fujita runs a 4.43 40. LBs don't get much faster than that!
Actually, InmanRoshi posted his stats and he doesn't run a 4.43; more like a 4.6

AGILITY TESTS

4.64 in the 40-yard dash…2.62 20-yard dash…1.62 10-yard dash…4.21 20-yard shuttle… 7.09 three-cone drill…42-inch vertical jump…10’2” broad jump…Bench presses 225 pounds 20 times…350-pound bench press…400-pound squat…275-pound hang clean…

30 ½-inch arm length…9 ¼-inch hands…24 Wonderlic score.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=487073
 

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As much as I hate to differ with InmanRoshi, here's what was said at KFFL:

OLB Scott Fujita, from the University of California, helped his draft stock at the NFL Combine earlier this month. Measuring in at 6-foot-5 1/2 and 248 pounds, Fujita was initially projected as a late draft choice. After running a 4.43 40-yard dash, his value is now likely to rise. Speed at the linebacker position is key in today's NFL, giving teams more flexibility in both rushing the passer on blitzing packages and dropping back into coverage. He has ideal size and speed to create a stir around the league.


http://kffl.com/article.php/264/123
 

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I equate this deal to the release of Coakley. Coakley was one year removed from a Pro Bowl and yet we released him. Why? Because he did not fit into the scheme that Parcells wanted to play. What Happened to him after that? He signed with a team who played the small fast scheme, stepped into the starting role and was named a team captain before ever playing a down for them in the regular season. Coakley was not a bad player, he just didn't fit our coach's ideal.

Now you have Fujita in KC. He lead the team in tackles and had teh 6th highest single season tackle total in team history plus a respectable number of sacks. But he is a big guy who does not fit into the mold that Cunningham wants for his LBs. Cunningham wants the small fast guys; in fact Cunningham would probably have liked Coakley for his team. But now Fujita comes to the Cowboys where big strong LBs are the order of the day. How will he do? I can't say for sure but I can see him starting for us and making a big impact.

As I've said before; One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Good post and I suspect right on target.
 

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I was away on vacation. I can't tell you how much I like this player and the price paid. I wonder if this doesn't mean we move Burnett inside at some point? I want him and Ware on the field at the same time.
 

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BlueStar II said:
He's had a shoulder injury, and even though the Chiefs brought in Bell and drafted Johnson, I am still concerned whether or not Fujita's shoulder is, or ever will be, 100%. While I would like to think that his shoulder is ready to go, I'm wondering if his shoulder was more of a factor in the Chiefs trading him than they want to admit to.

The trade never would have gone through if the Cowboys doctors didn't pass him first.
 

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JackMagist said:
I equate this deal to the release of Coakley. Coakley was one year removed from a Pro Bowl and yet we released him. Why? Because he did not fit into the scheme that Parcells wanted to play. What Happened to him after that? He signed with a team who played the small fast scheme, stepped into the starting role and was named a team captain before ever playing a down for them in the regular season. Coakley was not a bad player, he just didn't fit our coach's ideal.

Now you have Fujita in KC. He lead the team in tackles and had teh 6th highest single season tackle total in team history plus a respectable number of sacks. But he is a big guy who does not fit into the mold that Cunningham wants for his LBs. Cunningham wants the small fast guys; in fact Cunningham would probably have liked Coakley for his team. But now Fujita comes to the Cowboys where big strong LBs are the order of the day. How will he do? I can't say for sure but I can see him starting for us and making a big impact.

As I've said before; One man's trash is another man's treasure.

You mean we could have traded Dex for this guy?:D
 

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Billy Bullocks said:
2 words, Derrick Johnson. They play the same position.

Exactly. And how much did they pay Derrick et al, and could they afford Fujita?
 
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I don't know why people are so worried about this deal. We get a OLB who is a little taller & heavier than Ware, was on the 2002 All-Rookie team, and does nothing but make tackles. According to my 2002 PFW Report on Fujita, he's was 6'6'', 250, & 4.7 coming out of California. What I liked most about the report was that he has a top work ethic, and was a team leader. It goes on to talk about his huge wingspan, and the fact he can jump through the rafters with a vertical-jump of over 40 inches!

Then he goes to the Chiefs and makes All-Rookie his first year, and leads the team in tackles with over 100 each yr. He's only missed two games the past two years....and all we give up for this guy is a 6th rounder next yr., & a conditional 7th the yr. after??!! I'll take this deal every way to Sunday!!
Then we sign Peerless Price--what a weekend! I am so excited about this season, I am jumping out of my skin waiting 'till Sept. 11!
 
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