Serious Question: Is Dak better now than Romo in his prime?

[Cboyfan4ever]

But why didn't they give Romo his job back once he was healthy?? If Romo was so great wouldn't he be a better option at QB on a "loaded team". Fact of the matter is the Jones gang saw enough of Romo to understand that he is not a winner..

He certainly was the better option as Dak will never have Romo’s smarts or field vision,but they went w/ the hot hand as Oline and Zeke were dominant.Romo starting for that team goes further.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Any predictions on how he does this coming season?

Losing O coordinator may sting a little, but he’s too talented not to continue his great play.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

He certainly was the better option as Dak will never have Romo’s smarts or field vision,but they went w/ the hot hand as Oline and Zeke were dominant.Romo starting for that team goes further.

Zeke is so disrespected when it comes to that 2016 team.

He won the rushing title by over 300 yards but they are desperate to act like it was all Dak.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Zeke is so disrespected when it comes to that 2016 team.

He won the rushing title by over 300 yards but they are desperate to act like it was all Dak.

Zeke literally carried that team on his back, but QB gets all the credit and awards.Ridiculous.As Parcels would say,”Dak just had to drive the bus.”

 

[G2]

Losing O coordinator may sting a little, but he’s too talented not to continue his great play.

It's more significant than that IMO, it will be interesting.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Zeke literally carried that team on his back, but QB gets all the credit and awards.Ridiculous.

I posted this the other day, but Dak wasn't even in the top 15 in passing TDs or yards in 2016.....

Yet they badly want him to be the sole reason for that 2016 team's success.

 

[StarChamber_33]

I’m no Dak hater nor Romo homer but I’d take Romo. I think Romo would have been the main reason if they would’ve got a SB while he was here
IF Dak is on a SB winning team while he’s here it won’t be because of him precisely.....it’ll be about the defense
Jmo

Hmm, that's interesting because our most successful season with Romo was when they ran the hell out of the ball.. The less he threw it the better chance we had to win.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

I posted this the other day, but Dak wasn't even in the top 15 in passing TDs or yards in 2016.....

Yet they badly want him to be the sole reason for that 2016 team's success.

He just drove the bus while Zeke and Oline did the heavy lifting.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

He just drove the bus while Zeke and Oline did the heavy lifting.

100% bus driver and was still the best version of him we've seen. He's still chasing the ghost of his rookie season 6 years later.

They can't even brag about stats for 2016 because they're not that impressive. Sure, they're good for a rookie, but compared to everyone else they're 100% average except for INTS, but that's because he plays ultra safe. I guess that's one of those "leadership" years. They like to throw out "leadership" when stats don't go in their favor.

 

[OGCowboy]

Hmm, that's interesting because our most successful season with Romo was when they ran the hell out of the ball.. The less he threw it the better chance we had to win.

Think you missing my point....I guess bottomline I’m saying IF this team gets to a SB it won’t be because of Dak
IF they would’ve gotten to a SB during Romos tenure it would’ve been because of Romo....
That’s all...

 

[Cowpolk]

Dak will NEVER lead the Cowboys to 1 Super Bowl win, let alone 2.

Yes he will

 

[StarChamber_33]

I posted this the other day, but Dak wasn't even in the top 15 in passing TDs or yards in 2016.....

Yet they badly want him to be the sole reason for that 2016 team's success.

In this thread you said "stats are misleading and only a small piece when it comes to evaluating talent and skill"., yet you brought up a stat to support your biased Dak assessment..

 

[charron]

Who said anything about liking him, they have to decide what they risk by trying to do better.

You really like the track record of this brain trust with QB's? They lucked into the last two starters and could have had Lynch or Cook instead of Prescott if not for blind luck. Luck is no way to build a team.

They like him. By they I mean the Jones family. They do not sign max contracts to their own players because they believe they are the best. They offer big contracts to their guys whom they really like. And they way over pay. Dlaw, Dak, Zeke....all 3 production could be replicated at a fraction of the cost. We will never know if any other team would have paid them but we know no other team will take on 2 their contracts. And I fully expect them to extend Dak again, another mistake.

 

[gimmesix]

Think you missing my point....I guess bottomline I’m saying IF this team gets to a SB it won’t be because of Dak
IF they would’ve gotten to a SB during Romos tenure it would’ve been because of Romo....
That’s all...

Think it's a bit more of a simplified view than mine, but yes, it's a team game. Let's say Dez catches that pass against Green Bay clearly and our defense somehow holds on, wouldn't Romo deserve some of the credit for that victory especially considering the pass that he threw? Wouldn't at least to an extent it be fair to say if we'd went on to a Super Bowl that Romo played a big role in that?

Not saying you, but it's funny to me how some see it. They look at Romo's record in the playoffs and act like that is all on him. As I pointed out in another thread, Matthew Stafford was 0-3 in the playoffs with Detroit. He's 4-0 with the Rams, with a Super Bowl title. Did the Rams win the Super Bowl because of Stafford or did they win despite Stafford? I say they won with Stafford, just like Detroit lost with Stafford. Neither was because of Stafford, but he deserves credit. That's the distinction that gets lost somehow. Stafford benefitted from the team he was on in LA, but the team benefitted from Stafford as well.

If Dallas gets to the Super Bowl, it will have benefitted from having Prescott on the team even though getting to the Super Bowl wouldn't have been because of him, because it is a team game. Romo did not get to the Super Bowl because of the team he was on. I feel confident that I can say that because some lesser quarterbacks have won Super Bowls.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

In this thread you said "stats are misleading and only a small piece when it comes to evaluating talent and skill"., yet you brought up a stat to support your biased Dak assessment..

If you would have read my next post you would have seen that I said this:

"100% bus driver and was still the best version of him we've seen. He's still chasing the ghost of his rookie season 6 years later.

They can't even brag about stats for 2016 because they're not that impressive. Sure, they're good for a rookie, but compared to everyone else they're 100% average except for INTS, but that's because he plays ultra safe. I guess that's one of those "leadership" years. They like to throw out "leadership" when stats don't go in their favor."

I used his rankings in those particular stats to point out that not even the box score lovers can't brag about his stats in 2016, because for a QB, they were completely average.

That even though his stats were completely and utterly average compared to his peers, it was still his best season. That proves exactly what I said about stats being misleading and only a small piece of the bigger picture.

 

[Haimerej]

Exactly the reason stats are misleading and only a very small piece when it comes to evaluating talent and skill.

You know who had great stats in college? Kellen Moore.

 

[RonWashington]

But why didn't they give Romo his job back once he was healthy?? If Romo was so great wouldn't he be a better option at QB on a "loaded team". Fact of the matter is the Jones gang saw enough of Romo to understand that he is not a winner..

Not much of a broadcaster either . Him and Jim Nancy are chalk on a board

 

[SultanOfSix]

Dak Prescott has never been the backup, never been the guy that learns from the veteran starter, never been the guy that stays home on game day, never been the holder for field goal just to have something to do, never been the guy that gets to hold the clipboard and never has he ever been the guy that didn't throw a single pass in his first three seasons in the NFL.

Recall that Romo came into the league the same year as Jason Witten. However, you won't find any stats for Romo during that season. Why? Because he never participated in a single regular season play that year.

And Dak? Rookie of the year, best QB rating for a rookie and best completion percentage for a rookie in NFL history. Longest streak of pass attempts before an INT in NFL history. Eleven game winning
streak, 35 seconds away from bringing the Cowboys back from an 18 point deficit in his first playoff game.

Dak Prescott already had two Pro Bowls in his career before Romo ever threw a pass in his.

Romo's best season was his 12th in 2014 at the age of 34 so we will have to wait a few more years to see how good Dak will be. Compared to Romo, Dak is just starting his career.

This is silly. If Dak was put into the same situation as Romo — under Bill Parcells — he may have never played at all. Romo earned his place as QB on the team in the old school, proper way, by satisfying an old school HOF coach who had an aversion to young players compared to veterans, with his abilities and play over the veteran the coach knew for years and chose as his starter. Dak fell into it due to injuries of the two QBs who would’ve been starting before him if those things never happened, and kept his job because of a coach who would never have got a head coaching job anywhere else (and is no longer coaching anywhere) who wanted to ride some magical fairy tale “hot hand” with a rookie over reality, a rational assessment of why the team was really winning, and sound and logical football decisions.

 

[plasticman]

I predict Dak will not be a Cowboy when he is 34 years old.

He will have played his way out of town by then.

I respectfully disagree, not necessarily because I believe that Dak will be a future Hall of Famer, maybe he will, maybe not..

Jerry is not willing to start all over again at QB. He doesn't have the time left. Dak represents his last shot, his last hope. I still think there is a chance but the point is, what would be the alternative?

.Do you think Jerry is going to trade up in a future draft, give up three 1st round picks to get the #1 overall pick and hope he gets Manning/Aikman/Stafford and not Goff/Russel/Winston?

 

[DallasEast]

Think it's a bit more of a simplified view than mine, but yes, it's a team game. Let's say Dez catches that pass against Green Bay clearly and our defense somehow holds on, wouldn't Romo deserve some of the credit for that victory especially considering the pass that he threw? Wouldn't at least to an extent it be fair to say if we'd went on to a Super Bowl that Romo played a big role in that?

Not saying you, but it's funny to me how some see it. They look at Romo's record in the playoffs and act like that is all on him. As I pointed out in another thread, Matthew Stafford was 0-3 in the playoffs with Detroit. He's 4-0 with the Rams, with a Super Bowl title. Did the Rams win the Super Bowl because of Stafford or did they win despite Stafford? I say they won with Stafford, just like Detroit lost with Stafford. Neither was because of Stafford, but he deserves credit. That's the distinction that gets lost somehow. Stafford benefitted from the team he was on in LA, but the team benefitted from Stafford as well.

If Dallas gets to the Super Bowl, it will have benefitted from having Prescott on the team even though getting to the Super Bowl wouldn't have been because of him, because it is a team game. Romo did not get to the Super Bowl because of the team he was on. I feel confident that I can say that because some lesser quarterbacks have won Super Bowls.

Well said.

This is silly. If Dak was put into the same situation as Romo — under Bill Parcells — he may have never played at all. Romo earned his place as QB on the team in the old school, proper way, by satisfying an old school HOF coach who had an aversion to young players compared to veterans, with his abilities and play over the veteran the coach knew for years and chose as his starter. Dak fell into it due to injuries of the two QBs who would’ve been starting before him if those things never happened, and kept his job because of a coach who would never have got a head coaching job anywhere else (and is no longer coaching anywhere) who wanted to ride some magical fairy tale “hot hand” with a rookie over reality, a rational assessment of why the team was really winning, and sound and logical football decisions.

Ditto.