Shaq Lawson visiting April 5th

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To be honest, I think Lawson is every bit as good a prospect as Bosa, maybe even better.

Which, by the way, doesn't mean I think either is a 4th overall type guy.
 

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More likely, checking out guys in the mid-first round in case a trade presents itself.

Like the Rams.

If they don't want to take a QB at 4, I don't think a trade back with the Rams where you end up with both their 2nd rounders would be awful.

Say you take Lawson at 15 and then have the 34th, 43rd and 45th picks still?
 

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More likely, checking out guys in the mid-first round in case a trade presents itself.

Like the Rams.

If they don't want to take a QB at 4, I don't think a trade back with the Rams where you end up with both their 2nd rounders would be awful.

Say you take Lawson at 15 and then have the 34th, 43rd and 45th picks still?

This is a very real possibility. The Keenum is starting press release tells you they are interested in trying to whitewash their need. It's just a matter of 2-2nd rounders or a 2nd and 3rd from the Rams.
 

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This is a very real possibility. The Keenum is starting press release tells you they are interested in trying to whitewash their need. It's just a matter of 2-2nd rounders or a 2nd and 3rd from the Rams.

I'd want both #2s.............
 

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If they took Lawson at 4 because Bosa went at 3................... LOL.
 

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To be honest, I think Lawson is every bit as good a prospect as Bosa, maybe even better.

Which, by the way, doesn't mean I think either is a 4th overall type guy.

Honestly, this happens every year. It's why I don't want to lose games for draft position. More often than not, the draft ends up falling in a way where the guys in the middle end up with better value for their picks than teams in front of them. Like the way it worked out for the Cowboys with Zack Martin in 2014.

Somebody is going to get a good player in a good spot when they get Lawson.
 

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Honestly, this happens every year. It's why I don't want to lose games for draft position. More often than not, the draft ends up falling in a way where the guys in the middle end up with better value for their picks than teams in front of them. Like the way it worked out for the Cowboys with Zack Martin in 2014.

Somebody is going to get a good player in a good spot when they get Lawson.

Yep.

Eddie Reed - 24th pick (1st round)
Troy Polamalu - 16th pick
Ray Lewis - 26th pick
Randy Moss - 21st pick
 

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Yep.

Eddie Reed - 24th pick (1st round)
Troy Polamalu - 16th pick
Ray Lewis - 26th pick
Randy Moss - 21st pick

It's weird, because you can often see it coming from a mile away, too. But other teams just dutifully take the players they're supposed to. It's going to happen with Elliot, too, this year. You can see it. And I"m the last person to say good things about first round RBs. But he's going to end up in a killer spot, you just know it. The Rams and Aaron Donald a few years back was another example.
 

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It's weird, because you can often see it coming from a mile away, too. But other teams just dutifully take the players they're supposed to. It's going to happen with Elliot, too, this year. You can see it. And I"m the last person to say good things about first round RBs. But he's going to end up in a killer spot, you just know it. The Rams and Aaron Donald a few years back was another example.

I don't think he'll drop this far, but if the Panthers, Seahawks get him, watch out! :omg:
 

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Shaq Lawson DE/DT Clemson

STRENGTHS
Shaq is a quality defensive lineman who because of his size and solid athletic talents can play in any style of defensive front inside or outside. He has a strong lower body with nice lateral quickness, which makes him able to play in a 2 gap run stuffing system or a 1 gap attack defensive line system. Shaq has excellent football intelligence and works well in his defensive scheme with his teammates. He understands his assignment and the purpose of what his assignment is supposed to accomplish which shows the excellent coaching that he has received. He can shed blocks and make tackles in the hole and he shows a burst off the line with strength and power to get into the back field and disrupt and make sacks. Like I said, Shaq is a quality football player with the athletic talent, football intelligence and skills to become the type of player at the next level that will make a play at the most important time of a game.

CONCERNS
Although Shaq is smart, he seems to lack the consistency in his overall play that at times during a game makes him disappear against both the run and the pass. He doesn’t take downs off, but he does struggle to identify who has the ball at times. I think with a little more experience and technique work, this will become a non issue. Shaq might be a better pass rusher working over the guards rather than outside against tackles. When up against tackles, he doesn’t have the ability to turn the corner and unless he can learn better techniques he will struggle on the outside rushing the passer.

TALENT BOARD ROUND: 1
If Shaq works in a 4-3 front on the outside, he will have to learn more power pass rushing moves that will give him a more direct line to the quarterback if he expects to get double digit sacks at the next level. I have no doubt he can do that and become a defensive lineman very much like Michael Strahan was for the Giants at the peak of his career. Shaq has that type of talent. Right now, for his college team, he is up against the left tackle but truthfully he should be on the other side up against less athletic right tackles because of his power and strength. Shaq also would have an impact in a 3-4 defense sitting over the guards and tackles with a more direct line to the quarterback. This makes Shaq a player that just about all 32 teams would like to select in this draft. Having the power to stop the run and the natural leverage and lateral agility to get off the line and rush the passer should be Shaq’s ticket to fame in the NFL.
 

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Honestly, this happens every year. It's why I don't want to lose games for draft position. More often than not, the draft ends up falling in a way where the guys in the middle end up with better value for their picks than teams in front of them. Like the way it worked out for the Cowboys with Zack Martin in 2014.

Somebody is going to get a good player in a good spot when they get Lawson.

I think there are some questions about his shoulder, so that may drop him a little bit, but I agree, someone is going to get a gamer.
 

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Lawson is likely my favorite DE in the draft. Waiting to see if anything comes from reports that he was flagged at the combine for his shoulder & they want to recheck it.

Would seem he'd be a target in a trade down scenario as was mentioned...as would Rankins who is also supposed to be visiting.
 
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