Sharpshooting girl, 12, banned from boys team

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By TOM HALLMAN JR.
The Oregonian

BEAVERTON, Ore. — Jaime Nared is nearly 6-1 and blessed with Michael Jordan-style skills. In games, the 12-year-old can more than hold her own against the boys — dropping three-pointers and sometimes scoring 30 points or more.

And there, according to her coach, lies the problem.

She's so good, Michael Abraham said, she makes the boys look like scrubs. So she's been told she can no longer play on boys teams at The Hoop, a private Beaverton basketball facility that runs a league in which Abraham's teams compete.

The trouble started last month, when parents told The Hoop management they didn't like Jaime playing with the boys.

Hoop officials notified Abraham that Jaime, after years on one of his boys teams, was barred. They cited a rule, in a document coaches sign when they enter teams in the league, that prohibits mixed-gender teams.

"I never saw the rule," said Abraham, who has coached basketball, mostly girls and women's teams, for 32 years.

"If I'd known about it, I wouldn't have put any of my teams in the league. Besides, she's been playing on this team since second grade, and she plays on our team when we travel around the region. There's never been any problem in any event, not one word of complaint."

Neal Franzer, The Hoop's director of operations, said Thursday that parents were "adamant" that their complaints have nothing to do with Jaime's skills.

"They said the problem was the boys were playing differently against her because she was a girl," he said. "They'd been taught to not push a girl, so they weren't fouling her hard, and the focus had shifted from playing basketball to noticing a girl was on the floor with them."

Hoop officials e-mailed Abraham to remind him of the rules.

"The rule may not have been enforced in past years," Franzer said. "We have new management this year. It's policy, and we enforce policy."

Abraham, Jaime and her parents don't buy it. "I think the complaints come from parents who don't like seeing a girl that good playing against their sons," Abraham said.

Jaime, who said she "fell in love" with basketball when she was 8, likes the boys team because they play a fast-paced game.

"I think the boys on a specific team don't like me," she said. "It doesn't seem fair."

Jaime's mom, Reiko Williams, said the issue boiled over after a particular game.

"She scored 30 points," said Williams, who garnered national attention for her daughter's predicament Thursday after taking the story to the media. "I remember one play. She stole the ball, dribbled up court and made a behind-the-back pass to a teammate. He missed the lay-in, and she grabbed the rebound and put it in. I think it was just too much for some of those parents.

"The next day, she came home and said they wouldn't let her play with the boys anymore."

Abraham put Jaime on the boys team in the first place to both match her skills and keep her with peers. He has had her play on high school girls teams, but many travel and "her parents want her to be around kids her own age," Abraham said. "How much does she have in common with 18-year-old girls?"

And when she played on same-age girls teams?

"We beat one team 90-7," Abraham said. "At her level, it's like having Shaq on a high school team."

He said the boys on his team enjoyed playing with Jaime — among a handful of girls to play on his boys teams over the years — because she helped them improve.

"If she were 4-feet-9 and no good, we wouldn't be having this discussion," Abraham said. "To appease a small minority of parents, in this day and age, is stupid. This is a decision that really targets her. She's a well-adjusted kid who happens to be great.

"I can't think of one boy that we've played against that's had a problem with her," Abraham added. "Maybe their dads do. Teach the boys how to handle her. Front her, deny her the ball. You sure as hell don't complain. Listen, she's a girl's girl, but she plays tough. She's no cupcake. She gets knocked down and takes a charge."

For now, Jaime is back playing with girls — on a sixth-grade team and a nontraveling high school team. Abraham appealed The Hoop's ban but was denied.

Jaime, whom he considers the best sixth-grade girls basketball player in the country, is the one who will suffer, Abraham said.

Even so, she's sure to play in college and beyond, he said. Her father, Greg Nared, played at the University of Maryland, and her older sister is headed there in the fall on a basketball scholarship.

"This argument is so ridiculous," Abraham said. "We're talking about a 12-year-old girl. She's just a kid."
 

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I have some sympathy, but I think they're making too big of a deal about it.

She should play with older girls if she wants better competition. Plus, Beaverton is just outside of Portland. I have a hard time believing there aren't other options out there for her. Either other gyms or other options with older girls.

It's not like this is a sport like wrestling and her only option is playing with the boys.
 

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Danny White;2085230 said:
I have some sympathy, but I think they're making too big of a deal about it.

She should play with older girls if she wants better competition. Plus, Beaverton is just outside of Portland. I have a hard time believing there aren't other options out there for her. Either other gyms or other options with older girls.

It's not like this is a sport like wrestling and her only option is playing with the boys.


Yeah I gotta agree with you.

There is something else I am curious about.

I am curious what this girl looks like. She is 12, she seems to already be pretty tall for a girl, let alone a 12 year old girl.

I have to wonder if she is looking more like a much older girl and some parents are worried about their sons being around a girl that looks much older or if some boys are looking at her in a different way than they would an average 12 year old girl.

I hope that is not the case, because it sounds terrible, but I would not put it past some parents to worry about such things.
 

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When I was about 10 or 11 I played against a team (football) that a girl rb that never I mean never got tackled because 1. she could move like Barry Sanders and 2. she just out ran everybody. I never had a problem with it nor did any of the parents. In this story the parents just need to accept that their sons are getting beat up by a girl.
 

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If nothing else this will probably help her get a scholarship in a few years.

But yea this sucks for her ...... especially if she was excited and working hard.
 

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But I do wonder if this was a boy who wanted to compete in girls track ...... would it be ok?

Would anyone be on his side?


Just curious
 

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zrinkill;2098429 said:
But I do wonder if this was a boy who wanted to compete in girls track ...... would it be ok?

Would anyone be on his side?


Just curious

Have to agree with you. I have no problem with girls competing with boys, if they are able to do so, but it doesn't go both ways, which is why boys and girls sports will probably always be segragated.
 

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She shouldn't have been playing with boys in the first place, it will probably help her in the long run having done so but she shouldn't be. The only sport it's alright in is car racing IMO.
 

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zrinkill;2098429 said:
But I do wonder if this was a boy who wanted to compete in girls track ...... would it be ok?

Would anyone be on his side?


Just curious

If I was one of the boys I would be pissed at myself for getting beat by a girl.

It would push me to get better. If she is already better than you, it will help you get better and it will help her by playing against stronger, and most likely quicker players.

Girls her age are pretty much TINY. It would be like Derek Fisher guarding Tim Duncan in the post. There is no point, it doesnt help anyone.

Heres a video of her.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...q=jaime+nared&ei=P1E8SPCuN4vQ4AL17P3pAw&hl=en
 

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It does not matter in a couple years a lot of the boys will pass her bye and she will get owned trying to play with the big boys

So what she is better now it does not matter at that age
 

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Kangaroo;2098969 said:
It does not matter in a couple years a lot of the boys will pass her bye and she will get owned trying to play with the big boys

So what she is better now it does not matter at that age

Obviously.

Guys are generally stronger, faster, and quicker when they are older.

But with that said, I knew quite a few girls while in HS that could play with the HS boys.
 

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Parents ruin youth sports. Sad but true to any of you out there with kids that have played in any organized sports.
 
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