Shaun Smith Anyone?

[Teague31]

Just released by Cleveland. Surely he would be a better backup NT than Junior.

 

[Bluefin]

Just released by Cleveland. Surely he would be a better backup NT than Junior.

Wade Phillips seems to believe in Junior Siavii and pushed to sign him to the active roster around mid-season last year. Jay Ratliff named Junior as an under the radar player this off-season who would really surprise fans.

We won't get an idea about Siavii until the pre-season games start, but he's got some strong support from the head coach/defensive coordinator and the starting nose tackle.

He'd also seem to have a big advantage over any newb added for depth due to knowing the scheme and teammates so much better.

 

[Idgit]

We're unlikely to pick up a player who jacked his QB teammate in the face and was probably cut due to a dispute with the HC.

 

[Yeagermeister]

In a word....

Championship

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Thats the first thing I thought when I saw he was cut... Hmmm would we be interested.

I think it's worth a shot. I think he started a few games in Cleveland. I mean, he couldn't be worse than Anderson, right?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Him punching a QB in the face, or whatever it was, and getting into it with his coach probably isn't going to endear him to us, when we just spent the offseason cleaning the locker room up.

 

[AbeBeta]

honestly, if your QB is a **** then you need a guy to step up and punch him in the face.

 

[Idgit]

honestly, if your QB is a **** then you need a guy to step up and punch him in the face.

:laugh2:

I didn't say he didn't have it coming. I don't remember all the details, though, just that he and Quinn got into it and Smith jacked him.

 

[gimmesix]

Since we had Smith here before, we should know something about his attitude. And I would have no problem with Dallas bringing him in to compete at NT in place of Tim Anderson.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

This is the first I've ever heard of him punching Quinn.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is the first I've ever heard of him punching Quinn.

it isn't a new story. been around some time.

 

[Biggems]

who is shaun smith? i know of shawn rogers, but not smith. actually when i think of shaun smith, i think of DB not NT. did he go to tOSU for college?

 

[gimmesix]

who is shaun smith? i know of shawn rogers, but not smith. actually when i think of shaun smith, i think of DB not NT. did he go to tOSU for college?

Shaun Smith was a free agent defensive lineman for us under Parcells who ended up on our practice squad for a season before being claimed on waivers by Arizona at the end of training camp the next year.

He's been a decent backup, but nothing great.

 

[AbeBeta]

He's been a decent backup, but nothing great.

Actually, no. He's been a starter in Cleveland and has pretty good tackle #s for a DT (almost 100 in 2 seasons, despite missing 6 games)

 

[Apollo Creed]

honestly, if your QB is a **** then you need a guy to step up and punch him in the face.

Hilarious, rediculous, and true all at the same time.

 

[gimmesix]

Actually, no. He's been a starter in Cleveland and has pretty good tackle #s for a DT (almost 100 in 2 seasons, despite missing 6 games)

Fair enough. He was a backup before he got to Cleveland, where he started 20 of 26 games.

Still, just a decent player (and a better 3-4 end than NT) ... but better than what we have as backup NT candidates.

His attitude really needs to be checked though:

By Mary Kay Cabot
Saturday August 08, 2009, 9:58 AM

Updated 2:05 p.m.
Browns outspoken defensive lineman Shaun Smith, who clashed with defensive line coach Bryan Cox on Friday, was released Saturday morning, a source told the Plain Dealer.

Browns coach Eric Mangini confirmed the move, which was first reported on cleveland.com. He said he made it to clear a roster spot for another unnamed player.

Mangini said Smith "did a good job when he was here'' despite the fact he had a reputation for being too outspoken during practices and games. Mangini also declined to say whether or not Smith's run-in with quarterback Brady Quinn in December was a factor in the decision. Smith reportedly punched Quinn in the face during a weight-room spat.

But the signs were there during Friday evening's practice that something was amiss with Smith.

While the rest of the linemen were jogging to another field for position drills, Smith walked and lagged far behind.

"Come on, dog, you're walking on me," said the tough-nosed Cox.

Smith half-heartedly joined the others, but seemed reluctant to participate in the drills, which involved two lineman squaring off to practice hand- and footwork. At one point, Cox, noticing that Smith wasn't participating, said, "If you've got a problem, if there's something wrong with your back, you need to go get some treatment.''

Cox motioned a trainer over to check on Smith, but he waved him off and joined the drills. Some of his friends, including Robaire Smith, who was having fun in the drill going up against Shaun Rogers, talked to Smith a little on the side.

Smith told a source that he didn't do anything wrong and has no idea why he was released. In June, a source told the Plain Dealer that defensive coaches had told Smith to "shape up and shut up'' so he was already apparently on thin ice.

A versatile lineman who started 19 of his 26 games with the Browns over the past two seasons, Smith played both defensive end and backup nosetackle behind Rogers.

With Smith gone, second-year lineman Ahtyba Rubin, the Browns' sixth-round pick in 2008 out of Iowa State, will most likely see more action behind Rogers and in the line rotation.

"I really like Rubin,'' said Mangini. "Rubin is just a consistent guy. He comes in, works like crazy, is stout against the run, and has really improved his hand placement. I like all the things I've seen from him.''

 

[Idgit]

Fair enough. He was a backup before he got to Cleveland, where he started 20 of 26 games.

Still, just a decent player (and a better 3-4 end than NT) ... but better than what we have as backup NT candidates.

His attitude really needs to be checked though:

After that article, no thank you.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sounds to me that he just wanted out of Cleveland. You can't cut yourself and quite honestly I can't blame him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Wade Phillips seems to believe in Junior Siavii and pushed to sign him to the active roster around mid-season last year. Jay Ratliff named Junior as an under the radar player this off-season who would really surprise fans.

We won't get an idea about Siavii until the pre-season games start, but he's got some strong support from the head coach/defensive coordinator and the starting nose tackle.

That is true and I still don't get it.

 

[RS12]

honestly, if your QB is a **** then you need a guy to step up and punch him in the face.

:laugh2:

As I recall Rogers has also pulled some shenanagins to get out of Cleveland, anyway yes Smith is better than anything on the current roster as a backup.