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I'm going to try and post all the goal line short yardage plays by personnel group and formation tomorrow.ChldsPlay;3855650 said:I was tempted to put 95% but decided to play it safe.
I'm going to try and post all the goal line short yardage plays by personnel group and formation tomorrow.ChldsPlay;3855650 said:I was tempted to put 95% but decided to play it safe.
burmafrd;3854623 said:As regards running, that is MOSTLY on the O line. Get no push, open no holes. Then on having davis or someone else PULL. Dumb. Then MB is no longer a power back. TC never was. Put it all together and there you are. O line, play calling, no power back.
percyhoward;3855520 said:26th in the league in short yardage, for the second straight year.
Like you and Eskimo said, we were much worse near the goal line, although it's normal for teams' goal line numbers to be much lower than from farther out on the field. Still, "dismal" sums it up.
Last year I researched the red zone short yardage stats for every single team, just to see if we were dead last, as I suspected. Turns out we were 31st, ahead of Oakland by tenths of a percentage point. I don't plan to do that research again for 2010, but I'm sure we're bottom 5 again.
Here are the goal line numbers for the last two seasons:
2010 32.4%
11 TD on 34 plays from 2-yard line or closer
18 runs
Barber 3 TD's on 10 attempts
Choice 1 TD on 6 attempts
Jones 0 TD on 1 attempt
Kitna 0 TD on 1 attempt
TEAM: 4 TD on 18 attempts (22%)
16 passes
Romo 2 TD on 3 attempts
Kitna 5 TD on 13 attempts
TEAM: 7 TD on 16 attempts (44%)
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2009 27.2%
6 TD on 22 plays from 2-yard line or closer
14 runs
Barber 4 TD on 12 attempts
Choice 1 TD on 2 attempts
TEAM: 5 TD on 14 attempts (36%)
8 passes
Romo 1 TD on 8 attempts (13%)
The first thing that jumps out is that we had a lot more goal line plays in 2010 than in 2009. The main reason is that we scored TD's from farther out on the field much more often in '09. For example, Romo had 11 TD passes from outside the red zone in '09, while Kitna had just 3 in his nine games in '10.
The other big difference is the run/pass ratio on the goal line. In '09, it was 64/36 run. In '10 it was 53/47 run. If Romo had played the whole year, we might have ended up passing more than running on the goal line. The ratio was 50/50 when he was still playing, and this is consistent with the high numbers of pass attempts early in 2010.
22 of our 34 goal line plays in 2010 came in the last 8 games of the season. So we had as many goal line plays in games 9-16 as we had in all of 2009. Two reasons for this: Our lack of big plays (ability to score from farther out), and our high percentage of possessions that started in opponents' territory because of all the takeaways we were getting in the second half of the season.
Oh, and a third reason. We kept getting stuffed, and setting up another short yardage play.
percyhoward;3856494 said:http://i443.***BLOCKED***/albums/qq152/percyhoward/HollandFB.jpghttp://i443.***BLOCKED***/albums/qq152/percyhoward/HollandFB.jpg
Jumbo Package with "Fullback" Montrae Holland. This play was stopped for no gain.
Goal Line Plays by Personnel
"11" (shotgun)
1 back, 1 TE, 3 WR
total goal line plays: 12
success rate: 67%
run: 2 of 3
pass: 6 of 9
The preferred package (winning out by one play), and by far the Cowboys' most effective package in goal line. And it should have been even better. Two of the three incomplete passes were end zone drops by Roy at Green Bay, and by Hurd at home against the Commanders.
From the shotgun, with the defense spread out, Barber converted on 2 of 3 short-yardage plays near the goal line. He converted just 2 of 8 from tight formations with QB under center.
Barber was in the backfield for 4 shotgun plays near the goal line, and 3 of the 4 were runs. Choice was in the backfield for 8 shotgun plays near the goal line, and all 8 were passes.
Witten caught all 3 of his goal line TD from shotgun.
"23" (jumbo)
1 RB, 1 FB, 3 TE
total goal line plays: 11
success rate: 27%
run 2 of 8
pass 1 of 3
Two-thirds of all the Cowboys' goal line plays in 2010 were from one of two personnel groups: 3-Wide or Jumbo (3 tight ends, no wide receivers). We ran almost an equal number of goal line plays from each set, but the results were anything but equal. The injury to John Phillips in the preseason left us looking at 4 different players as the 3rd TE for short yardage (Spears, Chandler, Barron, and Rucker). To paraphrase an old saying about quarterbacks, when you have four 3rd tight ends, you really don't have any.
The most exotic it got was a couple of plays from the 1-yard line against Jacksonville that we ran from what was actually a "14" package. On the first play, a 3rd down, we put Barron at TE left, Bennett at TE right, with Witten flexed behind him, Chandler in the backfield in a FB position, and a pulling Costa at LG just for good measure. The play was stuffed for no gain. The next play on 4th down we simply flipped the formation and got the same result, this time with Barber and Kitna running into each other for dramatic effect.
About Gronkowski, he was injured that week. It might not have mattered anyway. We really missed Anderson's blocking this past year, especially out away from the goal line. Obviously, Gronk is a better receiver than he is a blocker. We threw 3 passes from jumbo near the goal line, all to Gronkowski. After the goal line debacle in Indy, when four plays with Gronk at FB resulted in minus 1 yard, he was replaced by Montrae Holland as our jumbo FB (at least on the goal line) the rest of the season.
Rest of the Personnel Groups on Goal Line
"21"
run 0 of 2
pass 0 of 3
"22"
run 1 of 4
pass 0 of 1
"12"
run 0 of 2
pass 0 of 0
When we had at least two TE in the game on goal line, we ran 14 times and passed 4 times. None of the 4 passes was to a tight end. We converted on 3 of the 14 runs, and 1 of the 4 passes.
When we had a FB in the game on goal line, we ran 14 times and passed 7 times. We converted on 3 of the 14 runs, and 1 of the 7 passes. Our conversion rate on goal line from tight or bunched formations with a fullback in the game was 19% (4 of 21).
Our conversion rate on goal line from spread formations without a fullback in the game was 57% (8 of 14).
26th in short yardage last season, even with Phillips and Anderson. But Phillips didn't really become a factor until late in the season, and where Anderson made the big difference was farther out on the field blocking for those second-level yards. I do think a healthy Phillips would have a made a difference to the goal line offense in 2010.41gy#;3856608 said:This line struggled in 2009 with short yardage, and missing your 3rd tight-end shouldn't kill your running game if your offensive line is worth anything.
percyhoward;3856494 said:http://i443.***BLOCKED***/albums/qq152/percyhoward/HollandFB.jpg
Jumbo Package with "Fullback" Montrae Holland. This play was stopped for no gain.
Goal Line Plays by Personnel
"11" (shotgun)
1 back, 1 TE, 3 WR
total goal line plays: 12
success rate: 67%
run: 2 of 3
pass: 6 of 9
The preferred package (winning out by one play), and by far the Cowboys' most effective package in goal line. And it should have been even better. Two of the three incomplete passes were end zone drops by Roy at Green Bay, and by Hurd at home against the Commanders.
From the shotgun, with the defense spread out, Barber converted on 2 of 3 short-yardage plays near the goal line. He converted just 2 of 8 from tight formations with QB under center.
Barber was in the backfield for 4 shotgun plays near the goal line, and 3 of the 4 were runs. Choice was in the backfield for 8 shotgun plays near the goal line, and all 8 were passes.
Witten caught all 3 of his goal line TD from shotgun.
"23" (jumbo)
1 RB, 1 FB, 3 TE
total goal line plays: 11
success rate: 27%
run 2 of 8
pass 1 of 3
Two-thirds of all the Cowboys' goal line plays in 2010 were from one of two personnel groups: 3-Wide or Jumbo (3 tight ends, no wide receivers). We ran almost an equal number of goal line plays from each set, but the results were anything but equal. The injury to John Phillips in the preseason left us looking at 4 different players as the 3rd TE for short yardage (Spears, Chandler, Barron, and Rucker). To paraphrase an old saying about quarterbacks, when you have four 3rd tight ends, you really don't have any.
The most exotic it got was a couple of plays from the 1-yard line against Jacksonville that we ran from what was actually a "14" package. On the first play, a 3rd down, we put Barron at TE left, Bennett at TE right, with Witten flexed behind him, Chandler in the backfield in a FB position, and a pulling Costa at LG just for good measure. The play was stuffed for no gain. The next play on 4th down we simply flipped the formation and got the same result, this time with Barber and Kitna running into each other for dramatic effect.
About Gronkowski, he was injured that week. It might not have mattered anyway. We really missed Anderson's blocking this past year, especially out away from the goal line. Obviously, Gronk is a better receiver than he is a blocker. We threw 3 passes from jumbo near the goal line, all to Gronkowski. After the goal line debacle in Indy, when four plays with Gronk at FB resulted in minus 1 yard, he was replaced by Montrae Holland as our jumbo FB (at least on the goal line) the rest of the season.
Rest of the Personnel Groups on Goal Line
"21"
run 0 of 2
pass 0 of 3
"22"
run 1 of 4
pass 0 of 1
"12"
run 0 of 2
pass 0 of 0
When we had at least two TE in the game on goal line, we ran 14 times and passed 4 times. None of the 4 passes was to a tight end. We converted on 3 of the 14 runs, and 1 of the 4 passes.
When we had a FB in the game on goal line, we ran 14 times and passed 7 times. We converted on 3 of the 14 runs, and 1 of the 7 passes. Our conversion rate on goal line from tight or bunched formations with a fullback in the game was 19% (4 of 21).
Our conversion rate on goal line from spread formations without a fullback in the game was 57% (8 of 14).
