Should Drivers Hang Up? State Officials To Weigh In

Bob Sacamano

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Teren_Kanan;3586765 said:
I drive with one hand, regardless of what I'm doing with the other. I Often ride with a passenger. I never rely on a passenger to um.. assist me in driving in any ways, to do so is moronic.

I see no difference from a good drivers perspective. I can drive with one hand and talk to a passenger, but I can't drive with one hand and talk on the phone?

Obviously driving takes precedence. If I'm in high traffic, merging, turning, whatever, the person on the line gets to **** cause I'm busy, there are even times when I simply put the phone in my lap. But if I'm driving down the road in a clear lane they can bite me, I'll use the phone all I want.

I'm with Fae on this. Don't punish me because people are idiots and pay more attention to their conversations than driving.

That's the problem. Far too many drive stupid when they are on the phone. It would be impossible to differentiate between those who drive and talk responsibly as opposed to those who do so irresponsibly.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3584271 said:
they just banned hand held here in February but of course the irony is you often see the fuzz driving with a hand held.

I don't have a blue tooth as I think they look ridiculous so if I have to call, I look around, make sure the fuzz isn't around then use speaker phone.

The Fuzz?

Far out man... that's righteous...
 

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Bob Sacamano;3587164 said:
That's the problem. Far too many drive stupid when they are on the phone. It would be impossible to differentiate between those who drive and talk responsibly as opposed to those who do so irresponsibly.


Exactly. Which is why you don't implement the law. The trend of taking away liberties because people are stupid is a crappy way to fix a problem.
 

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Faerluna;3586732 said:
The person on the phone knows I'm driving my car.

The person in the passenger seat knows I'm driving my car.

Don't get the confusion.

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You claim to be smart yet you cannot figure out the differences in talking on the phone and talking to someone sitting next to you. :rolleyes:
 

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ChldsPlay;3584229 said:
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make hear? That drinking and driving is worse? Yeah, probably. Good thing it's illegal then huh?
i don't know the point I'm trying to make hear either, but i do know the point I'm making here.

you don't have to be drinking in the car to be affected by alcohol, but you don't ban alcohol consumption. you don't ban all phone use in cars because some people are not responsible enough to handle it. just like you don't ban alcohol consumption cause some people are not responsible enough to not drive drunk.
 

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Pretty sure that a number of studies have pretty much shown that people talking on cel phones while driving have impaired abilities. Some were reported to be at the level of drunken drivers. IF this is the case there's no justification for leaving it legal, just because it is conveniant.

Numerous times I have had to avoid an ijit on a cel phone, driving on oblivious to situation and conditions.

On the other hand, years ago I saw a show were they talked about a study where the drunk drivers that were tested were hard drinkers who regularly drove. They drove much better than the usual subject, a non-drinker who has to force down three or four shots. One of the things the show said was, you won't see this mentioned much, as it goes against the commonly held idea.

Of course, I nearly got into a bad wreck on the highway late one night due to a drunk who fell asleep, his car sitting on I-10 in the middle of the New Mexico desert.
 

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rkell87;3588242 said:
i don't know the point I'm trying to make hear either, but i do know the point I'm making here.

you don't have to be drinking in the car to be affected by alcohol, but you don't ban alcohol consumption. you don't ban all phone use in cars because some people are not responsible enough to handle it. just like you don't ban alcohol consumption cause some people are not responsible enough to not drive drunk.

This doesn't make any sense. Alcohol consumption isn't illegal. Just in the car. Just like they aren't trying to outlaw cell phone usage. Just in the car.
 

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Cythim;3588211 said:
You claim to be smart yet you cannot figure out the differences in talking on the phone and talking to someone sitting next to you. :rolleyes:

As other people in this thread have noted, it's obvious what I'm saying.

I'm sorry that you fall into the category of the people that see there's a difference and need to be told/need to tell people what they can and can't do with regards to talking on a bluetooth while driving because of some perceived (or perhaps real, for some, read: you) mental deficiency.
 

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arglebargle;3588276 said:
Pretty sure that a number of studies have pretty much shown that people talking on cel phones while driving have impaired abilities. Some were reported to be at the level of drunken drivers. IF this is the case there's no justification for leaving it legal, just because it is conveniant.

Numerous times I have had to avoid an ijit on a cel phone, driving on oblivious to situation and conditions.

On the other hand, years ago I saw a show were they talked about a study where the drunk drivers that were tested were hard drinkers who regularly drove. They drove much better than the usual subject, a non-drinker who has to force down three or four shots. One of the things the show said was, you won't see this mentioned much, as it goes against the commonly held idea.

Of course, I nearly got into a bad wreck on the highway late one night due to a drunk who fell asleep, his car sitting on I-10 in the middle of the New Mexico desert.

Yes but those studies involve actual involved conversations on a course set up for distractions. In the studies there is no "Hold on I'm in traffic" or just straight up ignoring the person on the other end while you maneuver.

No one is arguing that they can have a deep conversation in bad road conditions and traffic while on the phone having a serious discussion. Person on the line takes a far far back seat to my driving safety when i drive. If i'm not in a clear lane of road they are getting very little attention. Are most drivers like this? No they are morons. But I'm tired of being punished because other people are irresponsible morons.
 

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Teren_Kanan;3588713 said:
Yes but those studies involve actual involved conversations on a course set up for distractions. In the studies there is no "Hold on I'm in traffic" or just straight up ignoring the person on the other end while you maneuver.

No one is arguing that they can have a deep conversation in bad road conditions and traffic while on the phone having a serious discussion. Person on the line takes a far far back seat to my driving safety when i drive. If i'm not in a clear lane of road they are getting very little attention. Are most drivers like this? No they are morons. But I'm tired of being punished because other people are irresponsible morons.

Bingo!
 

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Bob Sacamano;3588298 said:
This doesn't make any sense. Alcohol consumption isn't illegal. Just in the car. Just like they aren't trying to outlaw cell phone usage. Just in the car.
it makes sense, read it again, put your ivy league education to use
 

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rkell87;3588242 said:
i don't know the point I'm trying to make hear either, but i do know the point I'm making here.

you don't have to be drinking in the car to be affected by alcohol, but you don't ban alcohol consumption. you don't ban all phone use in cars because some people are not responsible enough to handle it. just like you don't ban alcohol consumption cause some people are not responsible enough to not drive drunk.

Bob Sacamano;3590381 said:
:laugh2:please do America a favor

and never leave Texas.
do me a favor and never come to texas
 

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A quick scan shows over 6 million accidents in the US last year.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to just drive while your driving?

It's a radical notion, I know.
 

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paladin78749;3591277 said:
A quick scan shows over 6 million accidents in the US last year.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to just drive while your driving?

It's a radical notion, I know.

+1. The guy who had the accident also thought he had it under control too, that's why it's called an accident. Unintended consequences.

Too much looking for luxury and frivolity while simply in transition.
 

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Faerluna;3588694 said:
As other people in this thread have noted, it's obvious what I'm saying.

I'm sorry that you fall into the category of the people that see there's a difference and need to be told/need to tell people what they can and can't do with regards to talking on a bluetooth while driving because of some perceived (or perhaps real, for some, read: you) mental deficiency.

Yes, mob mentality rules. Having other morons agree with you doesn't make you right. There is distinct difference between talking to a passanger and talking on a phone. It has zero to do with intelligence and everything to do with natural tendencies. Experts agree with me while all you have is a personal anecdote.
 
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