Should every player get the Martellus Rookie Treatment?

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I think this is what we need to do come camp, treat everyone like they are a knucklehead rookie. And I mean from the new rookies up to the oldest members of the team.

Martellus came in with a lot of talent, but he was raw and perhaps unfocused. To counter that the staff was on him 24/7, making him run drills at full speed despite how much he pouted, reminding him of the little intricacies of the game that many people take for granted.

They didn't curse him out, they didn't try and embarrass him by making him run laps for every little mistake, they didn't threaten his job. They simply said, we know you've got skill and think you know everything, but we are going to demand perfection in practice so we can see all that on the field come Sunday.

It worked, he made rookie mistakes along with everyone else and has a long way to go, but I don't remember once seeing him out there and thinking, "What the hell is he doing?", I can't say the same for a lot of the vets.
 

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TheCount;2548882 said:
I think this is what we need to do come camp, treat everyone like they are a knucklehead rookie. And I mean from the new rookies up to the oldest members of the team.

Martellus came in with a lot of talent, but he was raw and perhaps unfocused. To counter that the staff was on him 24/7, making him run drills at full speed despite how much he pouted, reminding him of the little intricacies of the game that many people take for granted.

They didn't curse him out, they didn't try and embarrass him by making him run laps for every little mistake, they didn't threaten his job. They simply said, we know you've got skill and think you know everything, but we are going to demand perfection in practice so we can see all that on the field come Sunday.

It worked, he made rookie mistakes along with everyone else and has a long way to go, but I don't remember once seeing him out there and thinking, "What the hell is he doing?", I can't say the same for a lot of the vets.

Now if we only had 52 more John Garretts...

High and tight, Boys!
 

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If Hard Knocks did anything I think it got him to focus on being a better player.
 

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TheCount;2548882 said:
Should every player get the Martellus Rookie Treatment?


I agree with this.


But... Martellus laughed at JG more than once. "Its only football man" or something to that effect.


You need a certain type of individual to "administer" the approach you speak of.
 

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Obviously everyone doesn't have that HOF competitive spirit we'd all like them to have. Of course it's only football. But while you're out there treat it as something very important. Be well rounded off the field.
 

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YoMick;2549011 said:
I agree with this.


But... Martellus laughed at JG more than once. "Its only football man" or something to that effect.


You need a certain type of individual to "administer" the approach you speak of.

Oh absolutely, Wade probably can't do it, but he can try. What's he got to lose? His job? Another season like this one and he'll be fired anyway.

Obviously we don't have even fundamental football down, so instead of tearing the whole organization down and rebuilding, maybe we should try instilling the fundamentals first. If we have another 9-7 season, a whole lot may change around here.
 

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TheCount;2549042 said:
Oh absolutely, Wade probably can't do it, but he can try. What's he got to lose? His job? Another season like this one and he'll be fired anyway.

Obviously we don't have even fundamental football down, so instead of tearing the whole organization down and rebuilding, maybe we should try instilling the fundamentals first. If we have another 9-7 season, a whole lot may change around here.


The odds of us righting this ship with Wade are slim to none IMO.

I thought the odds of us winning anything when he was hired were slim.


The stadium's opening season is gonna go off like fireworks display that malfunctions... goes bang... then just fizzes out.
 

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TheCount;2548882 said:
I think this is what we need to do come camp, treat everyone like they are a knucklehead rookie. And I mean from the new rookies up to the oldest members of the team.

Martellus came in with a lot of talent, but he was raw and perhaps unfocused. To counter that the staff was on him 24/7, making him run drills at full speed despite how much he pouted, reminding him of the little intricacies of the game that many people take for granted.

They didn't curse him out, they didn't try and embarrass him by making him run laps for every little mistake, they didn't threaten his job. They simply said, we know you've got skill and think you know everything, but we are going to demand perfection in practice so we can see all that on the field come Sunday.

It worked, he made rookie mistakes along with everyone else and has a long way to go, but I don't remember once seeing him out there and thinking, "What the hell is he doing?", I can't say the same for a lot of the vets.
I'm not disagreeing with that approach, but while it would be embraced by some players, all of the players would not accept that kind of coaching. Phillips and his staff would have to take a hardline stance to make it work, including sitting players (even starters) in order to force them to comply. Some of the players on this team wouldn't accept that kind of pressure, even if it benefitted the entire team by re-enforcing the entire team's focus and improving player execution, etc. Good idea though.
 

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YoMick;2549063 said:
The stadium's opening season is gonna go off like fireworks display that malfunctions... goes bang... then just fizzes out.
That's a little rough don't you think? Let's give JJ a chance before we just throw away next season. After all, it's only January 2nd!!!
 

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big dog cowboy;2549079 said:
That's a little rough don't you think? Let's give JJ a chance before we just throw away next season. After all, it's only January 2nd!!!



Well thats the thing... it IS a little rough.

Come next season I will root for this team 100% and hope for the best. But I gotta post the reality of what we have here.

The players dont fear Wade. The players are not afraid of any ramifications from Wade. We have Romo saying "if I win fine, if I lose fine".

Crayton saying - "yes we need more discipline" well yah... but should have been there.


If we win anything with Wade as HC it will most likely be in spite of him.
 

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DallasEast;2549071 said:
I'm not disagreeing with that approach, but while it would be embraced by some players, all of the players would not accept that kind of coaching. Phillips and his staff would have to take a hardline stance to make it work, including sitting players (even starters) in order to force them to comply. Some of the players on this team wouldn't accept that kind of pressure, even if it benefitted the entire team by re-enforcing the entire team's focus and improving player execution, etc. Good idea though.

I agree, but if there was a poster child for a player resisting that sort of approach, it was Bennett. He smirked, and lagged and cracked jokes through most of the early part of the process, but he came out of it better.

I've played organized sports most of my life and there are guys that just like to complain and never seem focused when the coach is telling them to do certain things, but sure enough come game time, you see them tuck that elbow when they take the jump shot.
 

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I don't think everyone should be yelled at, but they should all be coached like they are rookies

go back to fundamentals of playing football, and stress them
 

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Everyone handles things differently. A good coach doesn't treat everyone the same and knows each player needs to be handled in a different way. Some need to be ridden, while others need to coddled. You have to adjust to the type of player you have .... or you are going to lose a bunch of them.
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