Sigh... Tebow helps set up hospital...

perrykemp

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Damn, I read the ESPN article at got a little misty eyed.

I'm about non-religious as they come (non-practicing jew), however, I can't see how ANYBODY could dislike the kid.
 

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vta;4374935 said:
Charles Barkely called it the national nightmare. I guess people are really only happy to hear about horrible people doing horrible things.

OJ trial, Rae Carruth trial, Ray Lewis involvement in a crime, Natalie Halloway death-dissapearance, Casey Anthony's ugly mug all over the news. All were given way more attention than Tebow, yet the outcry over the 24 hour coverage for these unfortunate events was not nearly as indignant.

This. Even the title of this thread is ridiculous.

"Sighhhh.. Tebow helped more people."

Man, it sucks to hear about a guy who does everything he can to help others, huh? Stupid.
 

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I hated the coverage around him, and by proxy, disliked having to see him on TV.

Caught 30 seconds of an interview where he was asked about football. In that thirty seconds he put the veterans serving overseas ahead of what he does and mentioned another kid with a terminal disease.

NOBODY in the sports world does that. He won me over for life in 30 seconds. The more he's on TV, the more he wins, the more people will flock to him and his message of helping others.

I hope the guy wins 3 Super Bowls just so he can touch that many more lives.
 

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On down the road a bit,I see the kid going into politics......hopefully.
 

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I knew a little about him during his college years, but this kid has won me over this season. I absolutely love hearing about the good things he does off the field in a day and age where pro athletes are usually in trouble or arguing about money.

I hope he wins a few Super Bowls and retires on his own terms. Sure, he doesn't have the skills of a Tom Brady or Drew Brees, but I would not want to bet against this guy's desire to get better.

For the poster that mentioned politics as a next stint. I could see that. It would be refreshing to have such a person in office.

I'm not a Broncos fan, but I am absolutely loving Tebow and the Broncos right now in the playoffs.
 

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RoyTheHammer;4375621 said:
This. Even the title of this thread is ridiculous.

"Sighhhh.. Tebow helped more people."

Man, it sucks to hear about a guy who does everything he can to help others, huh? Stupid.

It has more to do with media idolatry than anything else. This kid has had an unprecedented amount of media focus on him from the get go. Not that keen on adding to it, but any football player who helps set up a hospital for kids deserves commendation.

There are thousands of NFL players who support charities, set up foundations, do personal work with those less fortunate. Enought to fill another forum, I am sure. Not all of these get quite the same attention.

It's obvious that Tebow's a genuinely good human being. He'd be doing what he's doing if he were Joe Blow, or if no one was looking. There are issues I have with him and the surrounding idolatry, but they are not things that can be discussed on this forum.

Still, my hat's off to him personally.
 

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Tim Tebow is a stand up guy. All these NFL cats mocking his religious beliefs are a joke--especially those Lions players. Look who's laughing now?
 

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SkinsandTerps;4375579 said:
I will never understand why these famous people don't start in their own backyard.

Plenty of people need help here too.

Not to say he isn't a good guy because it is very honorable for him to bother at all.

He is doing stuff all over the USA... Plenty in his back yard.

I used to think similarly as you about serving in other countries when there was plenty to do here. Then I went to Nicaragua and saw a different kind of poverty. It was a hopeless poverty where there is no government hand outs, no opportunity for getting an education & making a better life for yourself, not even clean water to drink or bathe in.
 

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burmafrd;4375468 said:
it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.
 

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Kurt Warner was a bit tebowish in his demonstrative faith, but he didn't get quite this cringeworthy media hype.

Nor did the "Minister of Defense" Reggie White, who later in life rebuked that title, calling it self serving and silly of him to promote.
 

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The30YardSlant;4376768 said:
It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

If he was any of those things, he wouldn't be on ESPN 24/7. But he'd still be a great guy.
 

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The30YardSlant;4376768 said:
It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/
 

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arglebargle;4374880 said:
Not a huge fan of the media frenzy and cult of personality around him. However, I've always felt you have to look at all aspects of a situation, not just the parts that appeal to your views.

That left handed bit aside, just ran across this bit of Tebow charity work. The man puts his money where his mouth is, and I always respect that. He's helping to set up a charity hospital in the Philipines. Thought his fans who might have missed this would appreciate seeing the story.

Smart move, after the game tonight he's liable to need a hospital...

:D
 

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soccerbud;4377989 said:
Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

If an athlete refused to stand for the national anthem, as was the case in one example in the article you referenced, you're darn right he'd get ripped and scrutinized regardless of race, color or religion. Your article doesn't prove much.
 

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I think what a lot of Tebow fans do not get is that he gets flack for having all the attention while being mediocre at his position. His religion and display of it isn't a problem, that it seems more important than his ability to play quarterback is. Humanity needs more people like him, many more people, but if he wants to play in the NFL he needs to find a position he can play well.
 

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soccerbud;4377989 said:
Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

Few people have the nads to publically insult Islam, for many reasons. For instance, that movie "Religulous" with Bill Maher claims to rip all religion, but really it's just an anti-christianity film. Even the most hateful people tend to shy away from Islam.

And I have heard far more jeering at Tebow's religion than praise, from his NFL peers to analysts to media personalities and celebrities. There is a very vocal contingent of Americans who loathe the positive light he casts on something they detest with every fiber of their being.
 

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burmafrd;4375468 said:
it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

Well, I admire him for the things he does, but I do have a problem with the Tebow hype, which is almost entirely because he IS religious...

But my take is that he's not responsible for others hyping him for their own agendas... my other take is that he's really not a very good quarterback... sorry, but his play this year wasn't all that, he rode a stout defense and a fairly soft schedule into a winning record...

And having said that, I do like that he seems to have a knack for raising his game in crunch time, when the game's on the line...
 

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The30YardSlant;4376768 said:
I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

No, it didn't, because it's a load of crap... very little of the Tebow backlash comes from his faith, it's mostly rooted in the hyping of a mediocre talent into superstar status...
 

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Aikbach;4376818 said:
Kurt Warner was a bit tebowish in his demonstrative faith, but he didn't get quite this cringeworthy media hype.

Nor did the "Minister of Defense" Reggie White, who later in life rebuked that title, calling it self serving and silly of him to promote.

Well said...
 
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