Simeon Rice Calls Jon Gruden A “scumbag”

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SIMEON RICE CALLS JON GRUDEN A “SCUMBAG”
Posted by Mike Florio on January 27, 2009, 8:58 p.m.
In a Tuesday interview with Sirius NFL Radio, former Buccaneers defensive end Simeon Rice told Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan of Movin’ The Chains that Rice believes former Bucs coach Jon Gruden is a “scumbag.”

“You get what you deserve,” Rice said. “That’s what Jon said. He got it now. Everybody gets what they deserve. . . .


“You look at what he did when Chris [Simms] damn near died on the field he wanted to release him right when he got injured. I get hurt, my shoulder’s torn off the bone. This dude releases me. You know what I mean? I’m your guy. The list goes on. Keenan McCardell, that situation was a debacle. Keyshawn Johnson, another situation [that] was a debacle. Joey Galloway, which was his man, was in the dog house all year because he got injured, broke his ankle or whatever. Brad Johnson, that situation was bad. Brings Jeff Garcia in here,
oh, he’s going to change things. I helped recruit him [and he] released me, kept Jeff and then put him in the dog house. Gets rid of Brian Greise, brings him, starts a controversy. It was chaotic. I’m giving you facts.”

And then Rice gave opinions.

“How I feel personally? I could tell you that, too. I think he’s a scumbag,” Rice said. “I think he’s a scumbag personally. That’s when he’s telling you one thing and… You know what he told me? ‘Simeon you’ll be here in the next five years.’ I got injured [and] this man’s never said one word to me. I won a Super Bowl for you. I got 13 sacks, 12, 15 every year for you. I balled. I got injured [and] you let me go like it was nothing.”
 

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CowboyFan74;2605915 said:
SIMEON RICE CALLS JON GRUDEN A “SCUMBAG”
Posted by Mike Florio on January 27, 2009, 8:58 p.m.
In a Tuesday interview with Sirius NFL Radio, former Buccaneers defensive end Simeon Rice told Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan of Movin’ The Chains that Rice believes former Bucs coach Jon Gruden is a “scumbag.”

“You get what you deserve,” Rice said. “That’s what Jon said. He got it now. Everybody gets what they deserve. . . .

“You look at what he did when Chris [Simms] damn near died on the field he wanted to release him right when he got injured. I get hurt, my shoulder’s torn off the bone. This dude releases me. You know what I mean? I’m your guy. The list goes on. Keenan McCardell, that situation was a debacle. Keyshawn Johnson, another situation [that] was a debacle. Joey Galloway, which was his man, was in the dog house all year because he got injured, broke his ankle or whatever. Brad Johnson, that situation was bad. Brings Jeff Garcia in here,
oh, he’s going to change things. I helped recruit him [and he] released me, kept Jeff and then put him in the dog house. Gets rid of Brian Greise, brings him, starts a controversy. It was chaotic. I’m giving you facts.”

And then Rice gave opinions.

“How I feel personally? I could tell you that, too. I think he’s a scumbag,” Rice said. “I think he’s a scumbag personally. That’s when he’s telling you one thing and… You know what he told me? ‘Simeon you’ll be here in the next five years.’ I got injured [and] this man’s never said one word to me. I won a Super Bowl for you. I got 13 sacks, 12, 15 every year for you. I balled. I got injured [and] you let me go like it was nothing.”

Rice is a punk and a complete tool. However, I have to agree with him on his assessment of Gruden. Chuckie is a filthy little worm.
 

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Im glad Gruden got fired. He deserved it. I know he had his team tank on purpose in the last game of the season against Oakland, because he wanted to see his old team make the playoffs.Well it cost him his job.Good.
 

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Boo hoo. You're in a business Simeon.

I would love to have a coach who would make that move. Its the smart move.

Not the popular one at all but its the type of moves that gives teams flexibility later on. Holding on to players who are spendy and not getting the job done for whatever reason is stupid.
 

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punit328;2606436 said:
Im glad Gruden got fired. He deserved it. I know he had his team tank on purpose in the last game of the season against Oakland, because he wanted to see his old team make the playoffs.Well it cost him his job.Good.

Let me get this straight...

He opted to lose the game that could have gotten his team into the playoffs so that another team he's not coaching could get in? And this is supposed to make him happy somehow?

I get it. Totally makes sense.
 

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punit328;2606436 said:
Im glad Gruden got fired. He deserved it. I know he had his team tank on purpose in the last game of the season against Oakland, because he wanted to see his old team make the playoffs.Well it cost him his job.Good.


What are you taking about? Oakland finished 5-11 even with that win in the final weekend against Tampa. They weren't close to making the playoffs. Are you talking about some other team?
 

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joseephuss;2607028 said:
What are you taking about? Oakland finished 5-11 even with that win in the final weekend against Tampa. They weren't close to making the playoffs. Are you talking about some other team?

I believe he was talking about the eagles...not as HC but he was a coach with them. That Bucs loss to the raiders was one of the things that let the eagles become a win and in situation for them when they played us in the last game.

Beyond that I think his post was silly as another poster states...does anyone with a rational mind really believe he would have his own team lose so another could go. Just silly.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2607037 said:
I believe he was talking about the eagles...not as HC but he was a coach with them. That Bucs loss to the raiders was one of the things that let the eagles become a win and in situation for them when they played us in the last game.

Beyond that I think his post was silly as another poster states...does anyone with a rational mind really believe he would have his own team lose so another could go. Just silly.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought the league was developing an NIT tournament or something.
 

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punit328;2606436 said:
Im glad Gruden got fired. He deserved it. I know he had his team tank on purpose in the last game of the season against Oakland, because he wanted to see his old team make the playoffs.Well it cost him his job.Good.

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! That is without a doubt, at all, the absolute dumbest statement anyone has ever made on these forums.


BrAinPaiNt;2607037 said:
I believe he was talking about the eagles...not as HC but he was a coach with them. That Bucs loss to the raiders was one of the things that let the eagles become a win and in situation for them when they played us in the last game.

Beyond that I think his post was silly as another poster states...does anyone with a rational mind really believe he would have his own team lose so another could go. Just silly.


You give him far to much credit. All the sudden, this year, Gruden wants to help out a team he coached as an assistant for and help them get into the playoffs?

Nah, sorry, but the dude put his cards on the table and made one of the dumbest statements ever muttered on any forum. He was talking about Oakland and showed exactly how little he knew of what he was talking about.

That statement he made is reason enough, all by itself, for Hos to start requiring people to pass an IQ test in order to sign up for these forums.
 

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The Superbowl Gruden won should have an asterisk next to it because he knew virtually all of Oakland's personell and plays. It was the most unfair Superbowl of all time.
 

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Jon88;2609909 said:
The Superbowl Gruden won should have an asterisk next to it because he knew virtually all of Oakland's personell and plays. It was the most unfair Superbowl of all time.


Wouldn't Oakland have pretty much known the coaching style of Gruden and what he was going to want to see it done as well?

The asterick, and unfair claim, seem pretty pointless and silly.
 

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Gruden should've been required to give half of his super bowl ring to Tony Dungy.

Rice's comments are interesting and I'm going to have to say that I believe him. Gruden has always rubbed me the wrong way, and I just don't see all the high praise for him. He's the last guy on earth I'd want to see coaching the Cowboys. He might do good year one, but teams tend to quit on him and I don't think that's the players fault. When it happens wherever you go, you might want to start pointing your finger at yourself.
 
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