CFZ Simple Plan Moving Forward

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?
 

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If we had a run game we would be moving on in the playoffs. If we had a run game we may have only lost 1 or 2 games this year. The O-Line coach needs to go. They ranked high at there positions but as a group they were undisciplined and had no power blocking for the run. Usually this group would be pushing the line and getting to the second level.. This year just didn’t play as a unit..
 

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The plan above isn't going to work when you are handicapped by the contract given to a QB who is as limited as Dak Prescott.
Nope not true at all. We don’t need major personnel fixes, we need a better run/offensive scheme.

We already have Pollard and adding another high quality RB is nothing but a late draft pick away. We also need a new C/LG. You take your first round pick and grab an interior lineman (most don’t go earlier than that) and you’ve made huge strides.

I knew someone would bring up the cap but the team can draft well enough to circumvent his contract. Again, this isn’t a super complex fix requiring many new pieces. You hit on 2/3 draft picks and a new offensive scheme and you’re right back in business.

Biggest issue is run and offensive scheme, not a huge roster overhaul. Remember the niners signed Jimmy G to a huge deal when they got him and were fine. Why? Offensive scheme and hitting on draft picks. We have the opportunity to do both this offseason.
 

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Yesterday I pulled my neighbor's truck out of the snowbank, twice.

As I watched him get his 3/4 ton, 4x4, with a plow and about 750 lbs of salt in the bed, stuck again twenty feet from where I just yanked him out of, I thought "this guy is Jerry and his truck is the Dallas Cowboys".

That truck should be able to get through just about anything but he had cheap "all-season" tires on it making this very capable truck essentially useless when it gets real.

I probably don't need to elaborate on what the tires signify in this analogy.
 

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?


I've posted this tweet on few threads but I'll post it again since it's relevant to your thread.

 

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Anyone know what OC candidates are great run-schemers? Anyone out of the Shanahan tree would be great. Bill Callahan as an O-line coach would be a dream as well.

Callahan was getting too much attention here. Remember all the talk about how much he really had his hands in the offensive jar...was he the real reason for our good play? Well, that spotlight was getting too bright for Jerry.
 

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I think Kitna, Columbo and Lal should have been kept after 2019.
 

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Is Dak #7-13th...maybe?

Can he stay in that range w/o Coop and others....if it comes to that???
 

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Don't give out superstar level contracts to non-superstar players. This offseason offers the chance to get rid of some past mistakes. Cooper, Dlaw, Collins and Tyron should all be on the trade block. Next year Zeke. Stay young, keep players hungry and fighting for roster spots instead of fat and content.
 

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Is Dak #7-13th...maybe?

Can he stay in that range w/o Coop and others....if it comes to that???
With a run first scheme? Heck yeah. Also WR talent may be the easiest to replenish along with RB. We can and always have found WR’s all through the draft. Gallup was R3 and Wilson R6.
 

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Don't give out superstar level contracts to non-superstar players. This offseason offers the chance to get rid of some past mistakes. Cooper, Dlaw, Collins and Tyron should all be on the trade block. Next year Zeke. Stay young, keep players hungry and fighting for roster spots instead of fat and content.
It’s an idealistic thought, but realistically most of these guys other than maybe Zeke made sense to resign.

None of these contracts hurt us if we have a scheme that actually plays to our strengths. Run the dang ball and kill them in the play action game like the first few weeks of the season. Coop may be gone and Zeke after a year but I’m not mad at the lineman and Dak deals.

Like we’ve said before, there wasn’t really a real alternative to Dak. Kinda stuck between a rock and hard place.
 

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It’s a good idea, but realistically most of these guys other than maybe Zeke made sense to resign.

None of these contracts hurt us if we have a scheme that actually plays to our strengths. Run the dang ball and kill them in the play action game like the first few weeks of the season. Coop may be gone and Zeke after a year but I’m not mad at the lineman and Dak deals.

Like we’ve said before, there wasn’t really a real alternative to Dak. Kinda stuck between a rock and hard place.

They should have offered Dak a reasonable contract and the second he declined it he should have hit the trade block.
 

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It takes several years to draft and develop an elite OL. From Smith in 2011, Fred '13 and Martin '14 it takes 4-5 years. We already have cornerstones in Zack and La'El, but La'El is in decline and Zack is already 31. Our RB who was supposed to carry this offense in Zeke has declined and has a gigantic contract.

IT's not as simple as you say it is
 

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The only common denominator in the past three decades is Jerry Jones.

As long as Jerry continues being independent in the league and not share merch and add revenue with the rest of the league the way all the other owners do, with the exception of Jerry. Cowboys will NEVER win a SUPERBOWL.

It makes no financial sense for the rest of the league owners to have the Cowboys in a Super Bowl.

Cowboys only purpose is for ratings during the regular season. In the playoffs they are one and done. The playoffs sale themselves.
 

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Any plan has to start with the roster. With over 20 free agents, and a CAP problem in 2022, the first problem to be addresses is, how to get under the CAP. I know people's reaction to this is just restructure this guy and that guy and viola $30 million in CAP room! But in doing that, you just set the roster for the next couple of years, maybe retaining guys past their prime.

Then there is the problem of 21 free agents off your own roster. Who do we keep and who do we let go? It makes a difference if Gregory is back or not. Same with Gallup and Schultz. Who are your WRs in 2022? Who are your TEs? Did anyone notice Blake Jarwin returned?

2022 is going to be a challenging year for the Cowboys.
 

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They should have offered Dak a reasonable contract and the second he declined it he should have hit the trade block.
Trade him for a few draft picks and take the chance that we get the 1 in 4 elite QB? Huge risk to take. Sounds nice in hindsight but chances are we pick someone who’s not better anytime soon.

Remember most QB’s are not elite, the chances are much higher that we pick someone equal to or worse than Dak than they are we pick a Mahomes or Allen. Not a fan of setting the team back 5 years as there’s a clear blueprint for how to win with a Dak level QB.

Make the move to a running and play action oriented attack and Dak is more than good enough to steer the ship.
 
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