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Anyone glad to see these FINALLY implemented into the passing game? It seemed like Garrett was hellbent on Air Coryell type routes that take time to develop in previous years. This year, he is allowing the receivers to run quick routes and get the ball out of Romo's hands. I saw it a lot in the preseason and they ran it to perfection to Dez and Ogletree against the Gnats.
 
CyberB0b;4721803 said:
Anyone glad to see these FINALLY implemented into the passing game? It seemed like Garrett was hellbent on Air Coryell type routes that take time to develop in previous years. This year, he is allowing the receivers to run quick routes and get the ball out of Romo's hands. I saw it a lot in the preseason and they ran it to perfection to Dez and Ogletree against the Gnats.

I like see us call slants I also like seeing the WR run through the ball. Bad things happen when the WR stops on the slant.
 
It seemed like in the 90's that Aikman used the slant a lot in critical situations and had a lot of success throwing it to Irvin and Novacek.
 
I think Callahan had an influence on Garrett with shortening some of the routes.

I expect more dumpoffs to the backs this year as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Murray caught 60 balls this year.
 
CATCH17;4721855 said:
I think Callahan had an influence on Garrett with shortening some of the routes.

I'm not sure if I'd credit Callahan with that as much as the O-Line's general performance. I kid, I kid.

Sort of.
 
Maybe Romo and the WRs are picking up the reads together better but its only one game, too. But I'm glad to see more WCO even if they are hot reads. I'd like to see more long ball, too.
 
Shinywalrus;4721884 said:
I'm not sure if I'd credit Callahan with that as much as the O-Line's general performance. I kid, I kid.

Sort of.

You kid but it is true. Murray averaged like 4 receptions a game last season when he was the starter. I think quite a few of those were check downs cause Romo was under duress.

As for the slants, all I can say is it is about time. Slants in, 5 bubble screens a game out. I like it.
 
Doomsday101;4721809 said:
I like see us call slants I also like seeing the WR run through the ball. Bad things happen when the WR stops on the slant.

Or doesnt cross the face of the receiver. See INT 2 against Detroit last season.

Also I believe we use the comeback quite a bit in the place of the slant, but I think we just used it so much against the giants to counter their pressure and their terrible secondary. When we were on the road last year we seldom ran deep plays contrary to the original post. We were very much a limited/short passing team on the road which helped cause problems for our offense. Teams knew we couldn't pass block well and would cover the short routes.
 
I would like to see more checkdowns to Murray. We did it quite a bit in preseason and once or twice against the Giants. That guy can do things in space against DBs, so the more you get it to him there the better.
 
I wonder whether this is a function of play calling by Garrett or more a function of adjustments (or, rather, lack thereof) made by Romo and the receivers at the line of scrimmage. For example, InmanRoshi has put forth a compelling analysis to suggest that, on at least one occasion, Beasley failed to make the correct hot read in response to a linebacker blitz by the Giants. If he makes the correct adjustment, he runs a slant into the area vacated by the LB.

Given the problems our WRs have had in the past with knowing their assignments, it might well be that the relative shortage of slant patterns you've noticed in past years has something to do with not making the correct adjustment based upon pre-snap reads.
 
CATCH17;4721855 said:
I think Callahan had an influence on Garrett with shortening some of the routes.

I expect more dumpoffs to the backs this year as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Murray caught 60 balls this year.

Your absolutely correct. Callahan's offense back then was #1 in the NFL. His main attack was short but quick passes and passing the the backs out of the backfield.

What we saw in the Giants game was from Callahan's playbook.
 
lol I love the fan stance WHY DONT WE RUN SLANTS GUYS

Because we didn't have wideouts who can get open on them. Teams would press us and people like TO and Roy Williams couldn't get off the line.

Then, we face a banged up secondary, beat their press a few times, they back off and suddenly slants are open and we complete them. What a surprise.

This isn't rocket surgery, and we didn't suddenly figure out that slants are good routes. Our personnel can run them now.
 
Tony probably threw more slants in Week 1 than he did in all of 2011. They work -- very well. I'm glad they're part of the game plan now.
 
superpunk;4722103 said:
lol I love the fan stance WHY DONT WE RUN SLANTS GUYS

Because we didn't have wideouts who can get open on them. Teams would press us and people like TO and Roy Williams couldn't get off the line.

Then, we face a banged up secondary, beat their press a few times, they back off and suddenly slants are open and we complete them. What a surprise.

This isn't rocket surgery, and we didn't suddenly figure out that slants are good routes. Our personnel can run them now.
I agree with you SP on that we didn't have the personel a WR to run them effectively at that time and now we do with Dez, Miles, and now with Ogletree.
 
ringmaster;4722115 said:
I agree with you SP on that we didn't have the personel a WR to run them effectively at that time and now we do with Dez, Miles, and now with Ogletree.

Those guys were here last year and the year before.
 
ConstantReboot;4722095 said:
Your absolutely correct. Callahan's offense back then was #1 in the NFL. His main attack was short but quick passes and passing the the backs out of the backfield.

What we saw in the Giants game was from Callahan's playbook.
Based on what I saw last week there is some wrinkles that Callahan has added to Garrett's passing offense but at the end of the day as we know its still a Air Coryell offense but more of a diversed one.
 
superpunk;4722103 said:
lol I love the fan stance WHY DONT WE RUN SLANTS GUYS

Because we didn't have wideouts who can get open on them. Teams would press us and people like TO and Roy Williams couldn't get off the line.

Then, we face a banged up secondary, beat their press a few times, they back off and suddenly slants are open and we complete them. What a surprise.

This isn't rocket surgery, and we didn't suddenly figure out that slants are good routes. Our personnel can run them now.

I'm having a hard time trying to remember what routes Roy Williams was good at.
 
silver;4722124 said:
I'm having a hard time trying to remember what routes Roy Williams was good at.
Williams was decent at times running the slant route as he did in that Texans game where he took one 69 yds for a TD, gasp the slant route he ran against the Saints on Thanksgiving Day in 2010 only to have Jenkins to cause the fumble and they won.

But he was also stymied at the LOS as SP said at times by opposing dbs and not getting open.
 
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