Slater was the ideal pick 2 years ago, but Parsons is better!

[baltcowboy]

Maybe so, especially how the team struggled when Tyron went down, but our defense would of been very suspect.

Would Jaylon have been cut?

Different type of play style with Slater and maybe he does not fall on Tyron’s ankle like Williams did.

 

[Risen Star]

"I was wrong on Micah and nobody, and I mean nobody, saw this coming."

I remember DakPresGoat and I having a conversation the week of the draft advocating taking Parsons over any of those irrelevant cornerbacks. That he'd be way more impactful on and off the ball as a versatile defender than any other player they can select with that pick. Including Slater.

But nobody, and he means nobody, saw this.

 

[Kevinicus]

One year.

 

[baltcowboy]

- i think Surtain is gonna end up being a Pro Bowl CB,.. but Parsons has every look as being a generational player. That's a TJ Watt, ..Myles Garrett .. JJ Watt in his prime.

- Those players are so rare and extraordinary.
If you're lucky to get 'em and lock them up contractually immediately for many years to come.

- Those guys flat out change the dynamics of the game, keep coaches up at night, and alter how opposing offenses to play differently, conservatively.both in the OL and
in the passing game.

- As Stephen Jones oft use the term " War Daddy " ....who is that guy that offenses just have to look around to find and locate when they break the huddle and prepare to hike the ball ?
We have him,.. we have that War Daddy in Micah Parsons,... we have the guy that utterly strikes sheer fear and frustration having to try to deal with and account for

Parsons is the man. I am just saying I don’t think we would have regretted getting Slater or Surtain.

 

[Ranched]

We lucked out….Jerry would have taken Surtain or Horn for sure.

Has nothing to do with luck. Fans forget to look behind the scenes. McClay does not currently have the full range of authority that he would as GM, his voice carries a great deal of weight in the club’s collaborative personnel process, which also includes input from both Joneses & Big Mac.

McClay ran his first draft in 2014, & landed his current title in 2017. Since 2014, Dallas has drafted 10 Pro Bowlers (that's not luck, that's McClay), & while the Cowboys are generally restrained in FA, McClay has had some success in finding contributors on modest FA contracts as well. Give credit where it's due!

 

[HungryLion]

"I was wrong on Micah and nobody, and I mean nobody, saw this coming."

I remember DakPresGoat and I having a conversation the week of the draft advocating taking Parsons over any of those irrelevant cornerbacks. That he'd be way more impactful on and off the ball as a versatile defender than any other player they can select with that pick. Including Slater.

But nobody, and he means nobody, saw this.

My man.


I also remember us saying he has a similar athletic profile to Von Miller.

And now some folks are saying “nobody knew he could rush the passer”

 

[morasp]

I just wish they would have picked any of the following ahead of Kelvin Joseph
Walker Little
Sam Cosmi
Dillon Radunz

 

[HungryLion]

I just wish they would have picked any of the following ahead of Kelvin Joseph
Walker Little
Sam Cosmi
Dillon Radunz

Hey man. The front office really really had to force that CB pick though. They had no choice. Had to get a CB. Just had to.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Micah is who is needed.

Making a bad decision on Micah Parsons is not going to cure all the woes of this team. He was the right pick.

The answer for continued issues on the team lies with active and effective solution seeking by mgmt. We knew about Tyron's situation in 2016 and had a 5 year run with the signals. Did they do enough? Clearly not.

The fact that they missed on Connor Williams and Fredbeard's expiry date came much earlier than expected really hurt the team.

The next positive step for the team to take is to try to address the LG and Centre issues now.

 

[Cowboyny]

OMG, what have we done with our policy of drafting Offlineman(Non-playmakers) with our # 1 picks?
1 playoff win.....no wonder Jerry is like a pig in @@@@ and smiling all the way to the bank!!!
Playmakers QB,HB,WR,LB,DE,DT, win Superbowls not offlineman!!!!

Disagree, Left Tackles are also need. Just look at the top of every draft.

 

[Cowboyny]

Define ideal. Parsons was the higher rated prospect and a game changer.

Yes, people did envision him being the best edge rusher in the draft. Who was spewing that crapp, some talking head on TV?

I disagree, many were evaluating Parsons as an off the ball linebacker, not an edge rusher.

 

[Cowboyny]

- I dunno how Slater was “ideal pick” when it was being reported at that draft time that the Cowboys viewed Slater as more of an OG than an OT.
And they did not want to take an OG that high.

- Frankly I believe even the Cowboys did not know that Parsons was gonna end up This Great … led by how then new DC Dan Quinn was gonna scheme him around, move him around,
so often and so many various positions and alignments, which made Parsons even that much more very difficult to counter scheme and deal with him.
Way too quick, and agile for OTs.. ..and way too overpowering vs blitz-blocking backs... .

- So confident that Parsons was still gonna likely be on the draft board 1st round, that we actually risk exposing and gambling Parsons by trading down a spot or two to which
another NFL team could have jumped ahead

- The Parsons selection actually reminds very much like how both the Mavericks and the entire NBA had no idea and imagination that Luka was gonna end up being as good
as he was per entering the NBA, ..dominating the NBA.

Slater was named on the 2nd all pro team last year as a tackle. If the Cowboys viewed him as a Guard only, they made a poor evaluation. If the likes of Gregory/DLaw didn't get hurt, I don't think we ever would of seen Parsons as an edge rusher last season.

 

[JBS]

This is Z. Martin v A. Donald all over again

this time we got the defensive star

 

[Cowboyny]

Even if Slater becomes Larry Allen, I’m taking Lawrence Taylor over a guard regardless. BUT I 100% wanted Slater on draft day. A rare instance that the front office knew more than the fans…

I wouldn't change a thing as Parsons is a superstar, by Slater was an 2nd team all pro Left Tackle last yr. He was real good for the Chargers.

 

[Cowboyny]

- i think Surtain is gonna end up being a Pro Bowl CB,.. but Parsons has every look as being a generational player. That's a TJ Watt, ..Myles Garrett .. JJ Watt in his prime.

- Those players are so rare and extraordinary.
If you're lucky to get 'em and lock them up contractually immediately for many years to come.

- Those guys flat out change the dynamics of the game, keep coaches up at night, and alter how opposing offenses to play differently, conservatively.both in the OL and
in the passing game.

- As Stephen Jones oft use the term " War Daddy " ....who is that guy that offenses just have to look around to find and locate when they break the huddle and prepare to hike the ball ?
We have him,.. we have that War Daddy in Micah Parsons,... we have the guy that utterly strikes sheer fear and frustration having to try to deal with and account for

He is a gamechanger, no Tackle has such that ability.

 

[erod]

Slater is an excellent player.

Micah is transcendent.

 

[Cowboyny]

"I was wrong on Micah and nobody, and I mean nobody, saw this coming."

I remember DakPresGoat and I having a conversation the week of the draft advocating taking Parsons over any of those irrelevant cornerbacks. That he'd be way more impactful on and off the ball as a versatile defender than any other player they can select with that pick. Including Slater.

But nobody, and he means nobody, saw this.

I admit, I wanted Slater and didn't like the Parsons selection, but I couldn't be more wrong. 12 others team didn't see this type of player and I bet the Cowboys didn't either.

 

[quickccc]

Slater was named on the 2nd all pro team last year as a tackle. If the Cowboys viewed him as a Guard only, they made a poor evaluation. If the likes of Gregory/DLaw didn't get hurt, I don't think we ever would of seen Parsons as an edge rusher last season.

-I do not agree with Parsons never becoming a pass rush discovery if not for injuries to Dlaw/Gregory.
Rushing the passer and run pursuit was Parsons' game coming out of Penn State, ... not pass coverage and INTs.
And then add the off-the-charts physical measurements and wonder-work out numbers. (4.3 speed at 245 lbs)

- What the NFL, including the Cowboys, did not know was just how elite he was as rushing the passer, even as a rookie, at the NFL level.
If there was a totally do-over, with what NFL world has seen of Parsons now, he could very likely go right after QB Trevor Lawrence as No.2 overall.

- I totally agree with you in who da hell in Cowboy's brass that rated Slater as a OG, instead of an OT. What a blundering mis-scout...!

 

[Cowboyny]

-I do not agree with Parsons never becoming a pass rush discovery if not for injuries to Dlaw/Gregory.
Rushing the passer and run pursuit was Parsons' game coming out of Penn State, ... not pass coverage and INTs.
And then add the off-the-charts physical measurements and wonder-work out numbers. (4.3 speed at 245 lbs)

- What the NFL, including the Cowboys, did not know was just how elite he was as rushing the passer, even as a rookie, at the NFL level.
If there was a totally do-over, with what NFL world has seen of Parsons now, he could very likely go right after QB Trevor Lawrence as No.2 overall.

- I totally agree with you in who da hell in Cowboy's brass that rated Slater as a OG, instead of an OT. What a blundering mis-scout...!

I think he was seen as a very good blitzer as a linebacker, but not viewed as an edge rusher. You are right, probably goes right after the QB's in a re-draft.

 

[kskboys]

"I was wrong on Micah and nobody, and I mean nobody, saw this coming."

I remember DakPresGoat and I having a conversation the week of the draft advocating taking Parsons over any of those irrelevant cornerbacks. That he'd be way more impactful on and off the ball as a versatile defender than any other player they can select with that pick. Including Slater.

But nobody, and he means nobody, saw this.

I was screaming for Parsons, and was completely shocked when he fell to us. Dude was simply a super prospect, the kind of player that doesn't come around often. The scouting reports that I read all saw him as a generational talent.