Slightly OT: Last bad 1st rounder from UM?

[Doomsday101]

I would have put him on the list -- but he's got a # of INT and scored 7 return TDs.

His problem is he's a jerk -- and he's uncoachable. He's failed to develop as a CB because he doesn't think anyone can tell him anything he doesn't know.

Typical Miami trash. Good players who are taught that they are better than everyone else. Too much ego to get better.

He has looked bad in Houston while his teammate Dunta Robinson has looked pretty good and seems to be the leader of their secondary

 

[Bob Sacamano]

hey, give it up to Houston, when they exchanged Aaron Glenn for Phillip, they got exactly what they wanted...youth

 

[joseephuss]

Kevin Williams.

Not a 1st round pick, so it isn't that much of a bust. You do expect more from a 2nd round pick and your top draft choice.

 

[AtlCB]

Ive heard Gore in an interview or two and he seems like a decent guy.

Portis is the dumbest player to ever graduate anything. UM should be ashamed.

Did you see Rod Woodson's reaction on the NFL network to Portis' ridiculous costumes? Rod Woodson also said that Portis would be giving fruitcake as Christmas gifts.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Did you see Rod Woodson's reaction on the NFL network to Portis' ridiculous costumes? Rod Woodson also said that Portis would be giving fruitcake as Christmas gifts.

All I know is that many Commanders fans always claim a certain Dallas player had certain tendencies (NTTAWWT) yet their poster child is doing his best Elton John Jr. impersonation every week.

 

[miamicowboy21]

Mcdougle heads the list along with damione lewis.

 

[Ceasaleo88]

Can I ask a question real quick? Why do a lot u guys hate the U? I've seen a rack(that means a lot for anybody not in the DC area LOL) of comments talkin bout the guys r jerks, criminals, etc. etc. and this and that. My thing is is that u check around the country I bet that a lot of schools who many people deem "Sainthood" on, have way more players in the police blotter that Miami. I'm willin to bet that Tennessee alone has had more problem players in the last year than Miami has had in the past 4 years.

 

[AbeBeta]

Can I ask a question real quick? Why do a lot u guys hate the U? I've seen a rack(that means a lot for anybody not in the DC area LOL) of comments talkin bout the guys r jerks, criminals, etc. etc. and this and that. My thing is is that u check around the country I bet that a lot of schools who many people deem "Sainthood" on, have way more players in the police blotter that Miami. I'm willin to bet that Tennessee alone has had more problem players in the last year than Miami has had in the past 4 years.

Like it or not, some teams choose to avoid Miami players. Which is saying something since Miami consistently puts guys with high-level NFL talent in the draft.

I will give Miami this -- as thugish as their image is, they do manage a decent graduation rate (over 50%) -- that isn't ideal - but it is above average for top teams. (BTW -- U of Virginia leads with 70% -- that is outstanding for graduation from such a quality U).

Unfortunately, Humility 101 is not a required course at Miami.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

1 25 William Joseph Giants DT--Very solid player on good front.

Actually. hes not really solid, Hes only started 4 games in his career(3rd season)hes just now getting playing time, and still not doing much with it, 14 tackles this year.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually. hes not really solid, Hes only started 4 games in his career(3rd season)hes just now getting playing time, and still not doing much with it, 14 tackles this year.

Actually, Joseph has been an very important contributor this year -- you can't measure interior linemen with tackles -- teams are having to account for him -- it is true that he looked like a bust his first two years -- but he is making up for lost time now.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Im forced to watch almost all Giants games, hes not really solid. Clancy and Robbins IMO are bigger contributors on the team

 

[baj1dallas]

Hasn't McKinnie been to the probowl at least once? I think he's pretty solid as a LT, as good as Flozell anyway, and about a million times better than Jeff Backus, another 1st round pick at LT. I would say Damione Lewis is a bit of a bust even though he's finally turned into something serviceable, it's taken a long time. Hard to know whether it's more him or the Rams D-line coaches though, they've sucked at defensive tackle for years now.

 

[jem88]

Even better -- does anyone know who, besides maybe Vilma, came out of Miami not being a huge jerk?

Santana Moss and Ed Reed.

 

[dbair1967]

Can someone enlighten me?
Just remember the recent drafts and cant seem to remember the last bust or disappointment who played at Miami.
McGahee, Reed and Shockey all come to mind but they are pretty good.

there's been quite a few of them

David

 

[dbair1967]

I would have put him on the list -- but he's got a # of INT and scored 7 return TDs.

His problem is he's a jerk -- and he's uncoachable. He's failed to develop as a CB because he doesn't think anyone can tell him anything he doesn't know.

Typical Miami trash. Good players who are taught that they are better than everyone else. Too much ego to get better.

no, his problem is he just sux

David

 

[dbair1967]

McKinnie is a whole lot better than Mike Williams who was drafted ahead of him.

not really...they both pretty much suck

David

 

[dbair1967]

Actually, Joseph has been an very important contributor this year -- you can't measure interior linemen with tackles -- teams are having to account for him -- it is true that he looked like a bust his first two years -- but he is making up for lost time now.

I have to take the other side as many others have here, Joseph isnt a very good player and certainly is proving he isnt worth the 1st rd pick that was used on him

David

 

[AbeBeta]

no, his problem is he just sux

David

I don't know 7 TDs says he's got something. He's talented. But he's what BP would call a "street player"

 

[BigWillie]

What about Vernon Carey?

He has only started 9 of 23 games thus far in his career.

 

[dbair1967]

I don't know 7 TDs says he's got something. He's talented. But he's what BP would call a "street player"

yeah ok...thats why a 260lb FB beat him on a fly pattern

the guy is a dog

David