Slotting the 30 Visit Players

Jumbo075 · Apr 14, 2023

I looked up 12 different big boards, and took the average ranking for each player based on those 12 different big boards. Here is how the average Big Board ranking stands for the Cowboys 30 players who visited the Cowboys

13.9	WR	Quentin Johnson	TCU
26.8	OT	Darnell Wright	Tennessee
32.9	WR	Zay Flowers	Boston College
40.2	CB	Emmanuel Forbes	Mississippi State
42.9	WR	Josh Downs	North Carolina
44.1	LB	Trenton Simpson	Clemson
45.2	TE	Darnell Washington	Georgia
45.2	LB	Drew Sanders	Arkansas
49.4	WR	Jalin Hyatt	Tennessee
49.8	EDGE	Will McDonald	Iowa State
53.3	DT	Mazi Smith	Michigan
77.7	OG	Steve Avila	TCU
79.4	CB	Tyrique Stevenson	Miami
80.8	TE	Tucker Kraft	South Dakota State
106.4	RB	Zach Evans	Ole Miss
109.5	DT	Jaquelin Roy	LSU
111.3	LB	DeMarvion Overshown	Texas
112.1	WR	Jonathan Mingo	Ole Miss
131.6	RB	Kendre Miller	TCU
161.2	TE	Cameron Latu	Alabama
164.4	LB/S	Marte Mapu	Sacramento State
190.0	QB	Clayton Tune	Houston
192.2	DT	Viliami Fehoko	San Jose State
209.6	TE	Payne Durham	Purdue
216.3	OG	Atonio Mafi	UCLA
221.1	DT	Tyler Lacy	Oklahoma State
258.5	TE	Brayden Willis	Oklahoma
315.6	EDGE	B.J. Thompson	Stephen F. Austin
416.0	OG	Ilm Manning	Hawaii
428.0	LB	Durrell Johnson	Liberty

KingintheNorth · Apr 14, 2023

I do not love the "first round caliber" players we brought in for 30.

Hoping for smokescreen strategy

KingintheNorth · Apr 14, 2023

Guys I love off that list are:

Marte Mapu, Atonio Mafi, Brayden Willis.

I'm bracing myself for (personal) disappointment.

Majic · Apr 14, 2023

If correct, we only bought in 2 first round players, slightly surprising

Carson · Apr 14, 2023

KingintheNorth said:
I do not love the "first round caliber" players we brought in for 30.

Hoping for smokescreen strategy

A trade down might be coming if one of the few guys aren’t sitting there

Carson · Apr 14, 2023

Majic said:
If correct, we only bought in 2 first round players, slightly surprising

I don’t believe that will be accurate.

I feel the following are definite round 1 guys - Johnston, Wright, Flowers, Forbes, Washington.

A few others who could go late first - Mazi, Sanders, Hyatt, Avila, McDonald.

I stand by my predictions that will 100% be Steve Avila, Will McDonald IV or Emmanuel Forbes at 26

baltcowboy · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
I looked up 12 different big boards, and took the average ranking for each player based on those 12 different big boards. Here is how the average Big Board ranking stands for the Cowboys 30 players who visited the Cowboys

13.9 WR Quentin Johnson TCU
26.8 OT Darnell Wright Tennessee
32.9 WR Zay Flowers Boston College
40.2 CB Emmanuel Forbes Mississippi State
42.9 WR Josh Downs North Carolina
44.1 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
45.2 TE Darnell Washington Georgia
45.2 LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
49.4 WR Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
49.8 EDGE Will McDonald Iowa State
53.3 DT Mazi Smith Michigan
77.7 OG Steve Avila TCU
79.4 CB Tyrique Stevenson Miami
80.8 TE Tucker Kraft South Dakota State
106.4 RB Zach Evans Ole Miss
109.5 DT Jaquelin Roy LSU
111.3 LB DeMarvion Overshown Texas
112.1 WR Jonathan Mingo Ole Miss
131.6 RB Kendre Miller TCU
161.2 TE Cameron Latu Alabama
164.4 LB/S Marte Mapu Sacramento State
190.0 QB Clayton Tune Houston
192.2 DT Viliami Fehoko San Jose State
209.6 TE Payne Durham Purdue
216.3 OG Atonio Mafi UCLA
221.1 DT Tyler Lacy Oklahoma State
258.5 TE Brayden Willis Oklahoma
315.6 EDGE B.J. Thompson Stephen F. Austin
416.0 OG Ilm Manning Hawaii
428.0 LB Durrell Johnson Liberty

I guarantee you that Quinton Johnston is not the top player on the Cowboys board.

Jumbo075 · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
I looked up 12 different big boards, and took the average ranking for each player based on those 12 different big boards. Here is how the average Big Board ranking stands for the Cowboys 30 players who visited the Cowboys

13.9 WR Quentin Johnson TCU
26.8 OT Darnell Wright Tennessee
32.9 WR Zay Flowers Boston College
40.2 CB Emmanuel Forbes Mississippi State
42.9 WR Josh Downs North Carolina
44.1 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
45.2 TE Darnell Washington Georgia
45.2 LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
49.4 WR Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
49.8 EDGE Will McDonald Iowa State
53.3 DT Mazi Smith Michigan
77.7 OG Steve Avila TCU
79.4 CB Tyrique Stevenson Miami
80.8 TE Tucker Kraft South Dakota State
106.4 RB Zach Evans Ole Miss
109.5 DT Jaquelin Roy LSU
111.3 LB DeMarvion Overshown Texas
112.1 WR Jonathan Mingo Ole Miss
131.6 RB Kendre Miller TCU
161.2 TE Cameron Latu Alabama
164.4 LB/S Marte Mapu Sacramento State
190.0 QB Clayton Tune Houston
192.2 DT Viliami Fehoko San Jose State
209.6 TE Payne Durham Purdue
216.3 OG Atonio Mafi UCLA
221.1 DT Tyler Lacy Oklahoma State
258.5 TE Brayden Willis Oklahoma
315.6 EDGE B.J. Thompson Stephen F. Austin
416.0 OG Ilm Manning Hawaii
428.0 LB Durrell Johnson Liberty

Of the top 10 ranked 30 visits to Cowboys, here is are the positions:

4 - Wide Receivers
2 - Linebackers
1 - Offensive Tackle
1 - Cornerback
1 - Tight End
1 - Defensive End
1 - Defensive Tackle

Do you think the Cowboys are tipping their hand a little. Looks like WR in the 1st round to me. Maybe that's where the Cowboys think the value is at for the #26 pick.

Jumbo075 · Apr 14, 2023

baltcowboy said:
I guarantee you that Quinton Johnston is not the top player on the Cowboys board.

This is just the 30 visit list, not the Cowboys overall Big Board. I have no doubt that Johnston is not the top player on their Board. But he may be the top player on their board that they invited to visit.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 14, 2023

Majic said:
If correct, we only bought in 2 first round players, slightly surprising

It shouldn’t be surprising though. We’re drafting at #26. There’s not 26 1st round-caliber picks in this year’s crop.

Spottswoode · Apr 14, 2023

Here is another consensus big board for comparison that uses a huge sample size. The top describes where the data came from and you can sort by position.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023

baltcowboy · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
This is just the 30 visit list, not the Cowboys overall Big Board. I have no doubt that Johnston is not the top player on their Board. But he may be the top player on their board that they invited to visit.

The Cowboys invited players in that they believe will be in their draft range. I think Kincaid and Mayer are going too 20. If one of the top guys drops the Cowboys will probably draft them.

reddyuta · Apr 14, 2023

i am wondering if the Cowboys ranking is wildly different than media guys? they always interview guys who they think will go around their pick.

America's Cowboy · Apr 14, 2023

Carson said:
I don’t believe that will be accurate.

I feel the following are definite round 1 guys - Johnston, Wright, Flowers, Forbes, Washington.

A few others who could go late first - Mazi, Sanders, Hyatt, Avila, McDonald.

I stand by my predictions that will 100% be Steve Avila, Will McDonald IV or Emmanuel Forbes at 26

I hope it's none of those 3 players you picked for our 1st round pick. Not worth a 1st round pick.

America's Cowboy · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
Of the top 10 ranked 30 visits to Cowboys, here is are the positions:

4 - Wide Receivers
2 - Linebackers
1 - Offensive Tackle
1 - Cornerback
1 - Tight End
1 - Defensive End
1 - Defensive Tackle

Do you think the Cowboys are tipping their hand a little. Looks like WR in the 1st round to me. Maybe that's where the Cowboys think the value is at for the #26 pick.

100% agree @Jumbo075 !

big dog cowboy · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
I looked up 12 different big boards, and took the average ranking for each player based on those 12 different big boards. Here is how the average Big Board ranking stands for the Cowboys 30 players who visited the Cowboys

13.9 WR Quentin Johnson TCU
26.8 OT Darnell Wright Tennessee
32.9 WR Zay Flowers Boston College
40.2 CB Emmanuel Forbes Mississippi State
42.9 WR Josh Downs North Carolina
44.1 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
45.2 TE Darnell Washington Georgia
45.2 LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
49.4 WR Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
49.8 EDGE Will McDonald Iowa State
53.3 DT Mazi Smith Michigan
77.7 OG Steve Avila TCU
79.4 CB Tyrique Stevenson Miami
80.8 TE Tucker Kraft South Dakota State
106.4 RB Zach Evans Ole Miss
109.5 DT Jaquelin Roy LSU
111.3 LB DeMarvion Overshown Texas
112.1 WR Jonathan Mingo Ole Miss
131.6 RB Kendre Miller TCU
161.2 TE Cameron Latu Alabama
164.4 LB/S Marte Mapu Sacramento State
190.0 QB Clayton Tune Houston
192.2 DT Viliami Fehoko San Jose State
209.6 TE Payne Durham Purdue
216.3 OG Atonio Mafi UCLA
221.1 DT Tyler Lacy Oklahoma State
258.5 TE Brayden Willis Oklahoma
315.6 EDGE B.J. Thompson Stephen F. Austin
416.0 OG Ilm Manning Hawaii
428.0 LB Durrell Johnson Liberty

Good job!!!!!!!!

Carson · Apr 14, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
I hope it's none of those 3 players you picked for our 1st round pick. Not worth a 1st round pick.

That’s what sucks in the late 20s lol. You’re reaching

xwalker · Apr 14, 2023

Jumbo075 said:
I looked up 12 different big boards, and took the average ranking for each player based on those 12 different big boards. Here is how the average Big Board ranking stands for the Cowboys 30 players who visited the Cowboys

13.9 WR Quentin Johnson TCU
26.8 OT Darnell Wright Tennessee
32.9 WR Zay Flowers Boston College
40.2 CB Emmanuel Forbes Mississippi State
42.9 WR Josh Downs North Carolina
44.1 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
45.2 TE Darnell Washington Georgia
45.2 LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
49.4 WR Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
49.8 EDGE Will McDonald Iowa State
53.3 DT Mazi Smith Michigan
77.7 OG Steve Avila TCU
79.4 CB Tyrique Stevenson Miami
80.8 TE Tucker Kraft South Dakota State
106.4 RB Zach Evans Ole Miss
109.5 DT Jaquelin Roy LSU
111.3 LB DeMarvion Overshown Texas
112.1 WR Jonathan Mingo Ole Miss
131.6 RB Kendre Miller TCU
161.2 TE Cameron Latu Alabama
164.4 LB/S Marte Mapu Sacramento State
190.0 QB Clayton Tune Houston
192.2 DT Viliami Fehoko San Jose State
209.6 TE Payne Durham Purdue
216.3 OG Atonio Mafi UCLA
221.1 DT Tyler Lacy Oklahoma State
258.5 TE Brayden Willis Oklahoma
315.6 EDGE B.J. Thompson Stephen F. Austin
416.0 OG Ilm Manning Hawaii
428.0 LB Durrell Johnson Liberty

-- Will get drafted later.
+ Will get drafted earlier.

Opinion	Avg	Round	POS	Player	College
--	13.9	1	WR	Quentin Johnson	TCU
	26.8	1	OT	Darnell Wright	Tennessee
	32.9	2	WR	Zay Flowers	Boston College
+	40.2	2	CB	Emmanuel Forbes	Mississippi State
	42.9	2	WR	Josh Downs	North Carolina
	44.1	2	LB	Trenton Simpson	Clemson
	45.2	2	TE	Darnell Washington	Georgia
	45.2	2	LB	Drew Sanders	Arkansas
+	49.4	2	WR	Jalin Hyatt	Tennessee
+	49.8	2	EDGE	Will McDonald	Iowa State
	53.3	2	DT	Mazi Smith	Michigan
+	77.7	3	OG	Steve Avila	TCU
	79.4	3	CB	Tyrique Stevenson	Miami
	80.8	3	TE	Tucker Kraft	South Dakota State
	106.4	3	RB	Zach Evans	Ole Miss
	109.5	3	DT	Jaquelin Roy	LSU
	111.3	3	LB	DeMarvion Overshown	Texas
	112.1	3	WR	Jonathan Mingo	Ole Miss
	131.6	4	RB	Kendre Miller	TCU
	161.2	5	TE	Cameron Latu	Alabama
	164.4	5	LB/S	Marte Mapu	Sacramento State
	190	5	QB	Clayton Tune	Houston
	192.2	6	DT	Viliami Fehoko	San Jose State
	209.6	6	TE	Payne Durham	Purdue
+	216.3	6	OG	Atonio Mafi	UCLA
	221.1	6	DT	Tyler Lacy	Oklahoma State
+	258.5	7	TE	Brayden Willis	Oklahoma
	315.6	7	EDGE	B.J. Thompson	Stephen F. Austin
	416	7	OG	Ilm Manning	Hawaii
+	428	7	LB	Durrell Johnson	Liberty

Jumbo075 · Apr 14, 2023

xwalker said:
-- Will get drafted later.
+ Will get drafted earlier.

Opinion
Avg
Round
POS
Player
College
--
13.9
1
WR
Quentin Johnson
TCU

26.8
1
OT
Darnell Wright
Tennessee

32.9
2
WR
Zay Flowers
Boston College
+
40.2
2
CB
Emmanuel Forbes
Mississippi State

42.9
2
WR
Josh Downs
North Carolina

44.1
2
LB
Trenton Simpson
Clemson

45.2
2
TE
Darnell Washington
Georgia

45.2
2
LB
Drew Sanders
Arkansas
+
49.4
2
WR
Jalin Hyatt
Tennessee
+
49.8
2
EDGE
Will McDonald
Iowa State

53.3
2
DT
Mazi Smith
Michigan
+
77.7
3
OG
Steve Avila
TCU

79.4
3
CB
Tyrique Stevenson
Miami

80.8
3
TE
Tucker Kraft
South Dakota State

106.4
3
RB
Zach Evans
Ole Miss

109.5
3
DT
Jaquelin Roy
LSU

111.3
3
LB
DeMarvion Overshown
Texas

112.1
3
WR
Jonathan Mingo
Ole Miss

131.6
4
RB
Kendre Miller
TCU

161.2
5
TE
Cameron Latu
Alabama

164.4
5
LB/S
Marte Mapu
Sacramento State

190
5
QB
Clayton Tune
Houston

192.2
6
DT
Viliami Fehoko
San Jose State

209.6
6
TE
Payne Durham
Purdue
+
216.3
6
OG
Atonio Mafi
UCLA

221.1
6
DT
Tyler Lacy
Oklahoma State
+
258.5
7
TE
Brayden Willis
Oklahoma

315.6
7
EDGE
B.J. Thompson
Stephen F. Austin

416
7
OG
Ilm Manning
Hawaii
+
428
7
LB
Durrell Johnson
Liberty

All it takes is one team to like the player better than the average ranking to make them get picked higher.

cnuball21 · Apr 14, 2023

This list seems to have guys slotted too low and missing players we’ve met with.

I’d recommend checking out the consensus draft board.

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