SNF: Quoth the Raven - 20; No More (Roethlisberger) - 17 Final
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In the pre-game, Rodney Harrison said that he hears all this talk about how the NFCE is so tough and physical, but he just doesn't see it.
I'm sure it is hard to see it when you're behind the desk in the studio. I know that if he headed to Dallas that there would be a few players willing to suit up and show him what tough and physical is all about.
Idiot. (Yes, that's a given. I know...)
I'm sure it is hard to see it when you're behind the desk in the studio. I know that if he headed to Dallas that there would be a few players willing to suit up and show him what tough and physical is all about.
Idiot. (Yes, that's a given. I know...)
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Billy Cundiff sighting.
I see former Cowboys kickers.
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Vintage;3108970 said:
I didn't see anything like that, but they did ask ab out him being voted the dirtiest player by his peers. He answered that he's not going to tap someone on the shoulder and let them know he will be hitting them, and he won't be changing the way he plays.
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Vintage;3108970 said:
Yeah, that was strange. Now Ben has propensity to pretend to be hurt more than he is or at least play up his injuries. But its not Ben's decision to sit in this case. Especially considering the league's emphasis on Head injuries these days.
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Faerluna;3108972 said:
Yes he did. Rodney and Tony Dungy commented on the fact that Ward was calling out Ben on his toughness.
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Faerluna;3108968 said:
I saw that too in thier pre-game segment. I went back and looked at our division as a whole and we have the most wins as a whole compared to all other NFC divisions. The Iggles have the same record as the NFC West leader Arizona and have a better record than other second place NFC teams.
If you ask me the NFC East is the most competitive division in the NFC year in - year out.
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Dash28;3108982 said:
Nice. Guy gets clearly kneed in the helmet and gets a clear concussion and his own teammate is calling him out. In my mind that is really worth noting, particularly with the league trying to address the head injury issue. But, we'll never hear anything about than this. If somebody said that in Dallas, Mr. Blue Suit would be sprinting to Valley Ranch.
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Ward says locker room is "50-50" on whether Ben should have played
Posted by Mike Florio on November 29, 2009 8:21 PM ET
Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be starting tonight's game against the Ravens, due to the lingering effects of a concussion.
Roethlisberger, as widely reported, was not cleared by a neurologist.
But teammate Hines Ward hints at a locker room divided on the question of whether Ben should have played.
"This game is almost like a playoff game," Ward told NBC's Bob Costas. "It's almost a 'must' win. So, I can see some players or some teammates kind of questioning like, 'Well, it's just a concussion. I've played with concussions before. I would go out there and play.' So, it's almost like a 50-50 toss-up in the locker room. You know, should he play, shouldn't he play. It's really hard to say.
"I've been out there dinged up. The following week, got right back out there. You know, Ben practiced all week. . . . To find out that he's still having some headaches and not playing and it came down to doctor's didn't feel that they was gonna clear him. . . . It's hard to say, unless you're the person. . . . I've lied to a couple of doctors saying 'I'm straight, I feel good,' when I knew I'm really not straight. But I don't think guys really about the future when they're playing currently in the NFL. . . .
"Trust me, the players, they wanna go out there because these games, you don't get back. You're never gonna get this Baltimore-Pittsburgh game back."
Wow.
Though Hines never says, "Ben is being soft," the import is clear. Hines is essentially saying, "Ben is being soft."
So what does Ward think should Roethlisberger have done? The answer, based on Ward's words, is clear: Ben should have lied about his status and sucked it up and played.
And we suspect that some of the 50 percent of the players who think Roethlisberger should be playing believe that the quarterback's reputation for being a drama queen contributed to this situation. Indeed, if he'd merely said nothing about how he was feeling, he'd likely be something other than the emergency quarterback during a game tonight that he's "never gonna get back."
But we all know that, when it comes to his various and sundry injuries, Ben can never say nothing.
Posted by Mike Florio on November 29, 2009 8:21 PM ET
Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be starting tonight's game against the Ravens, due to the lingering effects of a concussion.
Roethlisberger, as widely reported, was not cleared by a neurologist.
But teammate Hines Ward hints at a locker room divided on the question of whether Ben should have played.
"This game is almost like a playoff game," Ward told NBC's Bob Costas. "It's almost a 'must' win. So, I can see some players or some teammates kind of questioning like, 'Well, it's just a concussion. I've played with concussions before. I would go out there and play.' So, it's almost like a 50-50 toss-up in the locker room. You know, should he play, shouldn't he play. It's really hard to say.
"I've been out there dinged up. The following week, got right back out there. You know, Ben practiced all week. . . . To find out that he's still having some headaches and not playing and it came down to doctor's didn't feel that they was gonna clear him. . . . It's hard to say, unless you're the person. . . . I've lied to a couple of doctors saying 'I'm straight, I feel good,' when I knew I'm really not straight. But I don't think guys really about the future when they're playing currently in the NFL. . . .
"Trust me, the players, they wanna go out there because these games, you don't get back. You're never gonna get this Baltimore-Pittsburgh game back."
Wow.
Though Hines never says, "Ben is being soft," the import is clear. Hines is essentially saying, "Ben is being soft."
So what does Ward think should Roethlisberger have done? The answer, based on Ward's words, is clear: Ben should have lied about his status and sucked it up and played.
And we suspect that some of the 50 percent of the players who think Roethlisberger should be playing believe that the quarterback's reputation for being a drama queen contributed to this situation. Indeed, if he'd merely said nothing about how he was feeling, he'd likely be something other than the emergency quarterback during a game tonight that he's "never gonna get back."
But we all know that, when it comes to his various and sundry injuries, Ben can never say nothing.
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Vintage;3109005 said:
They actually called Pitt for holding?
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