SNF Rams and Titans

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I do wonder if it's still bothering him. I had a calf injury, and it was bothering me for about a months or so.

There’s no doubt it was. He was very inaccurate and threw off his mechanics and movement. Must get off to a quick start vs the Falcons and pound them in 2nd half.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We have the top 2 best running game in the league. Our weapons on offense are better than the Rams. Our O-line was not as bad as the Rams today. Dak has NO excuse whatsoever. Literally none!

Did you notice how the run game was ineffective? Or how many passes the WRs dropped. Dak played HORRIBLY. I will not deny that. However, the running game didn't exist today, and the WRs, particularly Pollard, dropped many passes. Coop dropped one in his body. I dunno what they ate for a pregame meal, but their hands were slippery.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

There’s no doubt it was. He was very inaccurate and threw off his mechanics and movement. Must get off to a quick start vs the Falcons and pound them in 2nd half.

Agreed, and we need Steele back at RT and Smith or the other LT to start. Steele at LT simply didn't work.

 

[ccb04]

No, he is much better than Dak. Even in this loss, he played better than Dak today. I mean he was sack constantly and under pressure, while Dak was not.

It was initially reported that Steele alone, allowed 11 pressures from the left tackle position.
Dak undoubtedly had one of his worst games. But aside from Parsons & Turner, no one played well. The Broncos dominated both lines of scrimmage.

 

[MapleLeaf]

It was initially reported that Steele alone, allowed 11 pressures from the left tackle position.

This alone should make Philbin look harder at the tape and reset his line.

Take a look at how well the Broncos line played with all their backups and Cam Fleming in comparison to our line.

A bit embarassing.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Did you notice how the run game was ineffective? Or how many passes the WRs dropped. Dak played HORRIBLY. I will not deny that. However, the running game didn't exist today, and the WRs, particularly Pollard, dropped many passes. Coop dropped one in his body. I dunno what they ate for a pregame meal, but their hands were slippery.

We ran the ball effectively (4.9 YPC on 16 carries).

The problem was our offense got into a hole playing behind so we couldn’t establish the and was playing catch-up the rest of the game.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We ran the ball effectively (4.9 YPC on 16 carries).

The problem was our offense got into a hole playing behind so we couldn’t establish the and was playing catch-up the rest of the game.

Ah, good point.

 

[Carson]

It was initially reported that Steele alone, allowed 11 pressures from the left tackle position.
Dak undoubtedly had one of his worst games. But aside from Parsons & Turner, no one played well. The Broncos dominated both lines of scrimmage.

I mean Josh Sutton summed it up best. “It’s like trying to wipe your *** with the other hand” when playing the opposite tackle.

Spot on

 

[BourbonBalz]

The only one here who should shove it is yourself. Dak was nowhere as under pressure as Stafford. Stafford literally got sack 6 times!

Stafford is a sitting duck. He can’t move. Dak can. You’re nothing more than a stat follower. Sacks alone do not determine how much pressure a QB is under. Dak was under constant pressure yesterday on almost every drop back. You either didn’t watch the game, have no clue what you watched, or have an agenda to push. I’m pretty sure I know which one it is.

 

[BourbonBalz]

After reading the board today, I dont think we have many smart posters

We have a lot of trolls.

 

[Aulac]

Did you notice how the run game was ineffective? Or how many passes the WRs dropped. Dak played HORRIBLY. I will not deny that. However, the running game didn't exist today, and the WRs, particularly Pollard, dropped many passes. Coop dropped one in his body. I dunno what they ate for a pregame meal, but their hands were slippery.

That my point, Dak cannot win without a running game. He not a QB that can carry the team. He can only beat the four worst team in the league if this is the case. Like he need everything to be perfect to have a chance.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

That my point, Dak cannot win without a running game. He not a QB that can carry the team. He can only beat the four worst team in the league if this is the case. Like he need everything to be perfect to have a chance.

I will dispute that also. Look what happened in the Bucs game. The running game didn't exist there, and he outplayed Brady that game. If not for some highly questionable penalties, we probably win that game. On top of that, how the hell is a QB supposed to succeed when the WRs are dropping practically every pass? What's he supposed to do? Run over there an hand it off to them? That's ridiculous. But I'm sure that the simple task of a WR catching a ball is something that'd be "everything perfect". Additionally, we have seen MANY great QBs lose every now and then, and Mahomes has dealt with what Dak had yesterday. Is Mahomes someone that can't carry the Chiefs all of a sudden?

 

[Aulac]

I will dispute that also. Look what happened in the Bucs game. The running game didn't exist there, and he outplayed Brady that game. If not for some highly questionable penalties, we probably win that game. On top of that, how the hell is a QB supposed to succeed when the WRs are dropping practically every pass? What's he supposed to do? Run over there an hand it off to them? That's ridiculous. But I'm sure that the simple task of a WR catching a ball is something that'd be "everything perfect". Additionally, we have seen MANY great QBs lose every now and then, and Mahomes has dealt with what Dak had yesterday. Is Mahomes someone that can't carry the Chiefs all of a sudden?

The differences other top QB have consistenly carried their team without a running game. Stafford, Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, and etc... Dak has not. The word is "consistent".

 

[DFWJC]

Stafford is a sitting duck. He can’t move. Dak can. You’re nothing more than a stat follower. Sacks alone do not determine how much pressure a QB is under. Dak was under constant pressure yesterday on almost every drop back. You either didn’t watch the game, have no clue what you watched, or have an agenda to push. I’m pretty sure I know which one it is.

Rams should've moved the pocket or had rollouts much earlier in the game.
The pressure was literally immediate on normal drop backs.

Rare to see them out coached, but they were

 

[Aulac]

Rams should've moved the pocket or had rollouts much earlier in the game.
The pressure was literally immediate on normal drop backs.

Rare to see them out coached, but they were

This happened to McVay in the SB as well. He too stubborn!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

The differences other top QB have consistenly carried their team without a running game. Stafford, Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, and etc... Dak has not. The word is "consistent".

Mahomes hasn't been very consistent with that and playing at a high level. I think the Bucs broke him. Additionally, I'll submit if you're looking for a QB that doesn't need a running game, you're looking at the wrong franchise. This is a franchise that's always needed a run game, and this whole thing about "needing the run" as if it is a bad thing is not the best argument imo. First of all, do you think Aikman, Staubach, Danny White, or Tony Romo would've been as successful without the respective running backs then? Emmitt made Aikman just as much as Aikman helped Emmitt. Dorsett was key for Staubach late in his career along with White's career. Herschel Walker was a key player. Julius Jones and Marion Barber and Felix Jones were key to helping Romo start. Murray was key late in Romo's career. This is a running team. It's the DNA of this franchise. Furthermore, perhaps some of those teams would benefit from running more. Stafford has been using the ground game more in LA, and it appears to be helping aside from last night. I think part of the reason Mahomes is struggling is BECAUSE they don't run the ball. When you are one dimensional, it's easier to defend you. When you have a solid balanced attack like we have, that's key. Dak is still a top 5-8 QB in my view, and that won't change. And I don't think it's wise, especially for the reasons I laid out, to question a QB because he happens to have a great running game. Also, maybe you haven't been watching Brady much lately. He has used the running game later in his career. It's not talked about as much, but he's used Fournette. In New England, he used players like Michel well. So, again, I don't think diminishing Dak because of the ground game is a good idea. If anything, the fact that we have a good ground game HELPS Dak in my view. It says that teams are worried about Dak carving them up on the ground just as much as they fear the ground game. Those two together make a potent team.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Rams should've moved the pocket or had rollouts much earlier in the game.
The pressure was literally immediate on normal drop backs.

Rare to see them out coached, but they were

Well, Henderson had been running well before this game. They should have used him more last night. They'd used him well in other games.

 

[Aulac]

Mahomes hasn't been very consistent with that and playing at a high level. I think the Bucs broke him. Additionally, I'll submit if you're looking for a QB that doesn't need a running game, you're looking at the wrong franchise. This is a franchise that's always needed a run game, and this whole thing about "needing the run" as if it is a bad thing is not the best argument imo. First of all, do you think Aikman, Staubach, Danny White, or Tony Romo would've been as successful without the respective running backs then? Emmitt made Aikman just as much as Aikman helped Emmitt. Dorsett was key for Staubach late in his career along with White's career. Herschel Walker was a key player. Julius Jones and Marion Barber and Felix Jones were key to helping Romo start. Murray was key late in Romo's career. This is a running team. It's the DNA of this franchise. Furthermore, perhaps some of those teams would benefit from running more. Stafford has been using the ground game more in LA, and it appears to be helping aside from last night. I think part of the reason Mahomes is struggling is BECAUSE they don't run the ball. When you are one dimensional, it's easier to defend you. When you have a solid balanced attack like we have, that's key. Dak is still a top 5-8 QB in my view, and that won't change. And I don't think it's wise, especially for the reasons I laid out, to question a QB because he happens to have a great running game. Also, maybe you haven't been watching Brady much lately. He has used the running game later in his career. It's not talked about as much, but he's used Fournette. In New England, he used players like Michel well. So, again, I don't think diminishing Dak because of the ground game is a good idea. If anything, the fact that we have a good ground game HELPS Dak in my view. It says that teams are worried about Dak carving them up on the ground just as much as they fear the ground game. Those two together make a potent team.

Of course you need a running game, but you also need to be able to win without a running game as well. Dak has proven that he cannot do that. If anything happen to our running game, we are completely screw.

 

[Aulac]

Well, Henderson had been running well before this game. They should have used him more last night. They'd used him well in other games.

He is a decent #2, but can't see the field as well as Akers.