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I wonder how that sniper had to aim to land that shot? About a foot or two above the guys?
 

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joseephuss;3389788 said:
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2010/05/sniper-sets-record



Sniper Sets Record
by John B. Snow


The encounter speaks for itself. A British sniper deployed in Afghanistan killed two Taliban fighters with two consecutive shots at a jaw dropping 2,706 yards. That’s 1.54 miles for those of you trying to do the math at home.

His weapon was the L115A3 Long Range Rifle chambered in .338 Lapua. This cartridge, which already had been anointed the Next Great Thing in long-range shooting, is sure to see its popularity climb to even greater heights.

As effective as the cartridge might be, however, it is still the man behind the trigger who makes the shot—and that’s where our admiration and respect should be directed. Corporal of Horse Craig Harrison, the sniper who made the shots, recounts his story here.

Harrison broke the previous record that was set in 2002 by a Canadian sniper who had a confirmed kill at 2,657 yards.

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I always thought the Barrett .50 cal semi-auto rifle was the best one. I hear it's devastating and demoralizing.
 

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There's disagreement as to whether the .50 is the 'best' round for sniping, though it's obviously very advantageous in a bunch of battlefield roles. Of course, there would be arguments over 'best' no matter what.

The great majority of snipers prefer bolt actions though.

Some pretty impressive shooting, and with two in a row!
 

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arglebargle;3390845 said:
There's disagreement as to whether the .50 is the 'best' round for sniping, though it's obviously very advantageous in a bunch of battlefield roles. Of course, there would be arguments over 'best' no matter what.

The great majority of snipers prefer bolt actions though.

Some pretty impressive shooting, and with two in a row!

Take your weak-*** bolt-action, prefer to snip with a wave motion gun.

WHO'S YOUR DADDY!

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burmafrd;3390581 said:
I can also guarantee that that shot was with hand loaded ammunition. To have hit his target that far beyond so called effective range means hot ammo.

Lay em out in the Sun and let em come up to temp. I think 170 is about right.

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burmafrd;3390581 said:
I can also guarantee that that shot was with hand loaded ammunition. To have hit his target that far beyond so called effective range means hot ammo.

What does that mean?
 

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SaltwaterServr;3390247 said:
Marine_Sniper.jpg

The Troops over there are serving up Virgins to them as fast as they can reload.
 

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Jon88;3390888 said:
What does that mean?

I believe what Burm is trying to get at here is the practice of "Heating" your Cartridges. There are a couple of schools of thought on this but I know for a fact that a lot of Snipers do heat there ammo before firing it, depending on conditions etc.

Temperature variations cause variations in muzzle velocity, which often effect ballistic characteristics.

Essentially, the designed or "Standard" energy yield in a given propellant designed load is finite upon ignition of propellant. However, if the propellant is heated to a higher temp, the ignition point of the propellant ignites at a higher temp and ends at a higher temp. These creates more pressure upon ignition of the propellant. You have to be careful how you heat ammo up. If it's heated too much, to fast, the results can be explosive and you can hurt your equipment. However, heated slowly and evenly, you can increase range or punch.

There are also those who add certain things to there ammo to enhance this process as well. Burm could also be talking about this. It's like putting an additive in your car every time you fill up, so to speak. A crude comparison but the same general idea.
 

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Jon88;3390729 said:
I wonder how that sniper had to aim to land that shot? About a foot or two above the guys?

You don't aim your rifle above or away from a target. Your scope is your tool here. There is a measure of mathematics to sniping that most people don't know about. Wind speed, distance, gravitational pull, relationship to the poles, type of round, and the coriolis effect are all things that factor in at long distance. No joke.

You figure out you shot mathematically, then let your scope do its thing.

Also, from my very limited experience, a "hot load" or "hot ammo" is ammunition that has been loaded by hand....often with more or higher quality powder to give the projectile round a higher velocity.

Feel free to correct me if I"m wrong.
 

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SaltwaterServr;3390247 said:
History Channel or Nat Geo. Saw it myself.

The Canadian guy missed on the first 3 shots. He had 3 crossing wind patterns to shoot through, and without using the American made ammo he wouldn't have hit the target.

Second to last shot clipped the target's back pack if memory serves. There were three of them, and they didn't even bother trying to take cover. Fourth shot hit. "No one gets up after being hit by a .50"

The mention of a guy hitting behind a wall was an American sniper using a .50 as well, with the explosive ammunition. "Painted the wall behind them red, and we didn't see any of the three move from the position."

Great show.

Marine_Sniper.jpg

i have that on my tivo i wish i knew how to get it onto my computer so i can upload it

not mine but found it online

http://www.google.com/search?q=hist...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBEQqwQwAA

tomson75;3390404 said:
Lmao.....I love The Corps.

Hostile;3390714 said:
I hope that reply by the Marine to the reporter is true. I would so like to shake that Marine's hand if so.

I believe that this was debunked as false, albeit hysterical.
 

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tomson75;3391419 said:
You don't aim your rifle above or away from a target. Your scope is your tool here. There is a measure of mathematics to sniping that most people don't know about. Wind speed, distance, gravitational pull, relationship to the poles, type of round, and the coriolis effect are all things that factor in at long distance. No joke.

You figure out you shot mathematically, then let your scope do its thing.

Also, from my very limited experience, a "hot load" or "hot ammo" is ammunition that has been loaded by hand....often with more or higher quality powder to give the projectile round a higher velocity.

Feel free to correct me if I"m wrong.

I see.
 

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nyc;3390855 said:
Take your weak-*** bolt-action, prefer to snip with a wave motion gun.

WHO'S YOUR DADDY!


Ha! Any good scriptwriter can defeat the Wave Motion Gun!

Brought back memories.....
 

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tomson75;3391419 said:
You don't aim your rifle above or away from a target. Your scope is your tool here. There is a measure of mathematics to sniping that most people don't know about. Wind speed, distance, gravitational pull, relationship to the poles, type of round, and the coriolis effect are all things that factor in at long distance. No joke.

You figure out you shot mathematically, then let your scope do its thing.

Also, from my very limited experience, a "hot load" or "hot ammo" is ammunition that has been loaded by hand....often with more or higher quality powder to give the projectile round a higher velocity.

Feel free to correct me if I"m wrong.

Hot loads are cartridges loaded with more powder than usual as per my hunting experience.

Dad used to get all of our .270 rounds with 150 grain loaded hot so they would have similar flight characteristics to smaller grained bullets. Not really sure if it worked or not, but it wasn't an issue shooting a 150 behind a 110 at 200 yards other than the recoil being a bit surprising.
 

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That is what I meant- it was loaded beyond standard. That is what a Hot Load means. Now as regards to heating the ammunition prior to use, that is a an area of arguement about its real utility. Problem with that is you have a limited amount of time to use that ammo after warming it up.
 

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burmafrd;3392068 said:
That is what I meant- it was loaded beyond standard. That is what a Hot Load means. Now as regards to heating the ammunition prior to use, that is a an area of arguement about its real utility. Problem with that is you have a limited amount of time to use that ammo after warming it up.

Not if you shove it up your ***, remember?
 

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tomson75;3391419 said:
You don't aim your rifle above or away from a target. Your scope is your tool here. There is a measure of mathematics to sniping that most people don't know about. Wind speed, distance, gravitational pull, relationship to the poles, type of round, and the coriolis effect are all things that factor in at long distance. No joke.

You figure out you shot mathematically, then let your scope do its thing.

Also, from my very limited experience, a "hot load" or "hot ammo" is ammunition that has been loaded by hand....often with more or higher quality powder to give the projectile round a higher velocity.

Feel free to correct me if I"m wrong.

It's not always powder. It can be chemical designed to act as an accelerant to aid or increase yield of the propellant. In those cases, it is customary for someone to "re-load" their ammo.
 

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Unless you have done a lot of testing using any accelerant, its pretty chancy for sniping. What most snipers do is test their hand loads to the maximum chamber pressure the rifle can withstand. Accelerants can very their power, not a very good idea when you are close to max pressure. Regular rds usually do not go past 80% of the capacity for that weapon. Snipers will hot load up to 95%.
 

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As my ex-marine uncle would say:

"He can snipe a fly off of a gnat's ***".
 
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