So, is 4-4 Good Enough For Jerry???

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We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.


I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.


I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.
 
Jerry didn't sound to convinced last night but he may just be trying to prevent other teams from snagging him. I have no doubt with all the starters healthy we will hit the ground more than running next season with JG.
 
Beast_from_East;3762553 said:
We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.


I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.


I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.

As long as dallas continues to be the franchise worth the most money in the NFL, 4-4 will work for Jerry. That way he can still play football guy.
 
If Romo were starting and we went 4-4 , I would say no. Right now, it is hard to say.
 
If JJ doesn't go with Garrett, I don't see him taking a college coach or a top OC or DC from the pro ranks.

JJ will end up with Gruden, maybe Cowher. (From what I can make out, Cowher may want to give Carolina a go.)

I honestly think that with a healthy Romo, a decent RT, and a defense that isn't ranked at the bottom of the NFL, that Garrett could do well with the Cowboys.

I still think JJ goes with Garrett for a couple of reasons,

1. Garrett is going to be significantly cheaper than a guy like Cowher, for example.

2. JJ has been grooming Garrett for this role for several years now. How bad would it be for JJ to have Garrett to get another HC job away and do well there?

3. I think JJ wants someone in the HC seat who will hopefully be a long term answer. Not another 3 year band-aid.

That said, I'd be curious as to what Stephen Jones thinks of Garrett.
 
I don't think Jerry can judge Garrett's win or loss record as whether her should be the head coach. The lost to the Cardinals was a bad one, but at least the Cowboys continued to play. When the offense gives the other team 14 points along with the defense giving up a 70 yard touchdown, it is practically impossible for any team to win. The Cowboys have been a factor in all the games that Garrett has coached. They still look like a different team than the one earlier this year. I would not be upset if Jerry hired Garrett to coach. I believe Garrett will be a head coach for some team because he's not only auditioning for the Cowboys but other NFL owners. It would have been interesting to see Romo play the last two games to see how the offense operated.
 
Beast_from_East;3762553 said:
We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.


I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.


I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.
Lip service, Jerry isnt letting JG go. Jerry said when this whole thing started that Wins/losses didnt matter at this point. Jerry wanted to see if the team would respond to JG and play hard. If Jerry is still judging based on his original criteria than Garrett has done a great job. My opinion, JG isnt going anywhere.
 
cowfan;3762574 said:
I don't think Jerry can judge Garrett's win or loss record as whether her should be the head coach. The lost to the Cardinals was a bad one, but at least the Cowboys continued to play. When the offense gives the other team 14 points along with the defense giving up a 70 yard touchdown, it is practically impossible for any team to win.

That's it right there.

These aren't "Wade Phillip's" types of losses– where the team flat-out quits.

Garrett will be the head coach in 2011.
 
It's hard to tell b/c frankly, the coaching change didn't fix the problems with the players' limitations and lack of execution.

The 2ndary is still as weak as under Wade.
The Dline is still as inconsistant as under Wade.
The Oline is still as iffy as under Wade.
The WRs are still as inconsistant as under Wade.

The run game...well more rushes have = more yards.

Under Wade:
169 Rushing plays, 21.1rushes/game
607yds rushing, 75.6yds/game 3.5yds/carry

Under Garrett:
225 Rushing plays, 32.1rushes/game
1022yds rushing, 146yds/game, 7yds/carry

Coaching aside, as bad as the Oline has played, as bad as the RBs appear to be... a committment to the run and a better Oline would yeild fantastic results.
 
4-4 with the backup qb and a game and a half with the backup's backup. Not to mention 4 games without Bryant and the schedule was absolutely brutal the last 8 weeks. Basically played 5 playoff teams in the Giants, Saints, Colts and Eagles twice.

I'd like to have Garrett mostly because I think he's done well and could be here for a longer term than previous coaches. Jerry wails on about experience as a Head Coach yet the NFL is littered with guys who took jobs and had no previous HC experience and won - John Harbaugh, Tomlin, Andy Reid. I guess we could hire just about anyone and it won't matter with Bozo the GM still running things.

My favorite part of the post game was when Brad or Babe asked Jerry where he was going to get a qb to backup next week and he said "we'll have to go where Arizona got there's that beat us, those guys are on the street and everywhere." LOL. Skelton was drafted in the 5th round last year. Nice GM.
 
Beast_from_East;3762553 said:
We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.


I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.


I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.

I think Jerry will look at each individual game instead of at the composite record. I think Jerry will also grade Jason on a curve as well, this defensive unit has been horrible for the year. I know the offense has struggled at times this year , but the defensive failure is what got Wade fired and I don't believe that Jerry will hold Jason acountable for that side of the ball. Even if they get blown out against the Eagles, I don't think that alone will be enough to offset the other seven games coached by Jason.

Craig
 
Been saying this since Wade was fired.. Make Garrett interview.. Bring in Gruden, Billick, Cowher, Lombardi(jk) whoever.. Hire who's going to bring in the best Coordinators and has the best plan on turning this mess around.. If this is Garrett so be it. Just dont hand him the job because its convienient..
 
What I got from jerry last night was he wants a experienced coach, JG doesn't have it.

He likes him, but won't take a chance, he thinks he doesn't have another 3-4 years to waste. I betting on the big three, he feels they are proven.

I think Gruden and Fisher have the edge because they'll make Jerry feel like he's a part of things.

JMO
 
All things considered, I think Garrett did fairly well. He got them better, with the practices. He can't help the personnel on the O-line, but pass protection seemed to be better with him at the helm and with a second and third string QB to boot. The running game was better. He can't help the secondary personnel. He can't help injuries. He can't help the kicker.

They won some games and even when they lost, they were close to winning by a FG. This is with a patchwork team. Defense coaching has to go. Tough to say how he'd do with a full season and the job his own. The team seems to like him, though I'm not in the locker room.

I think he'd be a good fit, with better D coaching and hopefully some help in the draft picks.
 
forever22;3762711 said:
All things considered, I think Garrett did fairly well. He got them better, with the practices. He can't help the personnel on the O-line, but pass protection seemed to be better with him at the helm and with a second and third string QB to boot. The running game was better. He can't help the secondary personnel. He can't help injuries. He can't help the kicker.

They won some games and even when they lost, they were close to winning by a FG. This is with a patchwork team. Defense coaching has to go. Tough to say how he'd do with a full season and the job his own. The team seems to like him, though I'm not in the locker room.

I think he'd be a good fit, with better D coaching and hopefully some help in the draft picks.


Regarding your pic......I'd still hit it with the bags on.
 
Two weeks ago I thought it was easily Garrett's job. Last night reminded me that Jerry is still Jerry. He's going to want to make a splash Superbowl week with the world's media in his backyard and there is no bigger splash than naming Jon Gruden the Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
 
MichaelWinicki;3762580 said:
That's it right there.

These aren't "Wade Phillip's" types of losses– where the team flat-out quits.

Garrett will be the head coach in 2011.

Those are exactly like Wade Phillip's type losses. Only a couple games can be attributed to the team quitting. Almost every other loss was just like last night's. Sloppy mistakes and boneheaded decisions result in a loss to a team that was statistically dominated.
 
Beast_from_East;3762553 said:
We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.

I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.

I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.

this is just butt-nugget stupid.

garrett had a lifeless team and no motivation at all. we were content to lose out take our beating and get a high draft pick. now that garrett can only take this pile of dung to 4-4 with a backup and then a 3rd string D with the WORST DEFENSE EVER FIELDED

the instant gratification society wants him gone.

you short sighted people are highly irritating.
 
Beast_from_East;3762553 said:
We just lost to a rookie 5th round QB, so I am counting the game against Vick a loss next week. That puts Garrett at 4-4 during his interum period, however he will have lost 3 of his last 4 games.

Jerry talked about how the Boyz needed to "hit the ground running" next year and that the team couldnt afford to wait around while a new coach got his feet wet. This clearly was Jerry talking about how Garrett does not have HC experience.

So, will 4-4 be good enough to convince Jerry that Garrett can get this team to hit the ground running next year? Losing 3 out of 4 with back-to-back losses to end the season would kinda throw cold water on the idea of the team hitting the ground running next year.


I dont know, it is hard to read Jerry. He is either a really, really, really good liar and is just giving lip service to satisfy the Rooney Rule, or Jerry is not as sold on Garrett as many believe him to be.


I personally think Garrett is in trouble and if we get blown out next week, Garrett is gone.

Well lets send Garrett packing and maybe he can get some coaching experience with Baltimore or Cleveland and win a superbowl or two there before we bring him back.

How much head coaching experience did Sean Payton have before NO hired him?

This is so freaking stupid.
 
I think it might be good enough, as long as Fisher isn't available. That's the real Wild Card here to me. I mean, no matter how we slice it, last nights loss was bad if you think this Dallas team simply underachieved this season.
 

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