So what do we think about Tolbert?

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I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?
 
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Good WR3 and the kind of WR teams need. He can produce when targeted. He has proven that. Much like other skill position players they all seem to get lost in McCarthy's offense and play calling.
If Mike comes back next year, I really hope they take the play card away from him. We need to get a modern NFL offensive coordinator in here.
 

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I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?
I think you hit the nail on the head. he is not standout at anything. but a good #3, perhaps a really good #4....the consistency to show something in every game is a concern.
easily replaced? perhaps. Noah brown made a career of being just average. so can tolbert, so its about cost. I think cowboys already have a pipeline to replace him.
 

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Average 3
Makes some plays but not explosive at all and isn’t great at anything
Need to get a #2 in the offseason
 

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I think he has been good. Probably not a #2 in the league. But a solid rotation option. Those are pretty good stats with two games remaining with everything that has gone on this year.
 

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I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?
I consider him a slightly better WR than TWill, because he doesn't jump, to catch the ball with his body.
 

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He's Ok, but getting less separation than Cooks and much less than Lamb. He just doesn't get open enough.
 

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If Mike comes back next year, I really hope they take the play card away from him. We need to get a modern NFL offensive coordinator in here.
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WR4 type, doesn't have any standout traits and doesn't separate from DBs. I would focus on special teams if I was him.
 

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I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?
Just another guy. A JAG is the Parcells' term.
 

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I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?
he's ok pretty much summed it up maybe late bloomer and gets better each year ... i see him like Terrance Williams.... You know never really produced into a big-time receiver but at times made a lot of flashy plays but then frustrated you with the easy drop some of the passes he should have caught he didn't and then turned around on the next play and makes one that he should never even been able to make...
 

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he's ok pretty much summed it up maybe late bloomer and gets better each year ... i see him like Terrance Williams.... You know never really produced into a big-time receiver but at times made a lot of flashy plays but then frustrated you with the easy drop some of the passes he should have caught he didn't and then turned around on the next play and makes one that he should never even been able to make...
I don’t like body-catching WRs as a general rule - but Williams DID occasionally make some astounding sideline toe-tapping receptions. Wasn’t his career cut short due to bicycling?
 

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Just another guy. A JAG is the Parcells' term.
You do realize that 60% of rosters are made-up by "those guys"

those guys are how you fill up a roster with a salary cap that has just about every team top heavy with stars you know they got 10 or 15 players that make the biggest money the rest of them that's how you build a team you need to be good with those players. Go look at the 90s teams Michael Irvin pretty much was the main receiver Alvin Harper was OK at #2 you know kinda like the guys we keep bringing in here like Brandon cooks and then you had the other guys you know those guys the Jags filled out the rest of the roster it was the triplets you built a team in the trenches you had a few stars sprinkled in here and there and then a lot of the guys were just Jags....

People really saw guys even like bill Bates was a Jag he never was a big time player he was like Jeff heath in a way not exactly but teams have those you have to have those even more so now than before...


1991-95 WR room for the Cowboys, Not impressive at all IMHO those that have selective memory dont realize rosters are full of Tolbert types..

  • 80 Alvin Harper. Brandon Cooks
  • 82 Jimmy Smith. almost never healthy was allowed to be taken in an expansion draft because he was always unavailable. bad move!!
  • 86 James Dixon KR.- ?? Brooks?
  • 88 Michael Irvin. Lamb
  • 83 Kelvin Martin PR. Turp- wow one man does 3 jobs lol
  • 87 Derrick Shepard PR. aka Turpin bet Turp is better all three had light occasional contributions at WR 4,5,6
  • 81 Alexander Wright KR. aka Turpin
 

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47 rec. 890 yards 18.9, 6 TDs (JW, Lions)
39 rec. 668 yards 17.1, 8 TDs (RB, Ravens)
39 rec. 543 yards 13.9, 4 TDs (RD, Packers)
44 rec. 552 yards 12.5, 2 TDs (TL, SEA)
58 rec. 727 yards 12.5, 7 TDs (TH, Bengals)
42 rec. 482 yards 11.5, 6 TDs (JT, Cowboys

I've placed Jalen Tolbert stats with other WR2s in some of the leagues best passing offenses. (Tyler Lockett is the only WR3).

I'm haven't been high on Tolbert from day 1, but I'm encouraged by these comparisons. We know Dallas offense hasn't pushed the ball much, so JT is a possession WR hence the low ypc and yardage. So, I have to ask myself will this guy do better with a more modern offense or even just another year to grow? Either way, I don't think Tolbert is far off from being a WR2, but Cowboys fans want 3 WR1 types, which, isn't feasible with Dak n CeeDee's cap numbers.
 
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