So what do we think about Tolbert?

[Loso86]

I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?

Adios

 

[goshann]

47 rec. 890 yards 18.9, 6 TDs (JW, Lions)
39 rec. 668 yards 17.1, 8 TDs (RB, Ravens)
39 rec. 543 yards 13.9, 4 TDs (RD, Packers)
44 rec. 552 yards 12.5, 2 TDs (TL, SEA)
58 rec. 727 yards 12.5, 7 TDs (TH, Bengals)
42 rec. 482 yards 11.5, 6 TDs (JT, Cowboys

I've placed Jalen Tolbert stats with other WR2s in some of the leagues best passing offenses. (Tyler Lockett is the only WR3).

I'm haven't been high on Tolbert from day 1, but I'm encouraged by these comparisons. We know Dallas offense hasn't pushed the ball much, so JT is a possession WR hence the low ypc and yardage. So, I have to ask myself will this guy do better with a more modern offense or even just another year to grow? Either way, I don't think Tolbert is far off from being a WR2, but Cowboys fans want 3 WR1 types, which, isn't feasible with Dak n CeeDee's cap numbers.

Stats actually show his biggest issue
He isn’t explosive at all (speed or wiggle) and his YPC is always going to be below average

 

[KJJ]

Tolbert has improved but no where near as good as Gallup was in his prime prior to his injury. Tolbert hasn’t shown enough to move up to number 2 next season.

 

[mmohican29]

He's really not a bad player @ all? But infinitely upgradeable.

He's a craftier Brice Butler with far less explosiveness. I'd be looking for better.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Stats actually show his biggest issue
He isn’t explosive at all (speed or wiggle) and his YPC is always going to be below average

Yeah hes mostly a comeback route guy and needs to develop another plus skill to really be a legitimate 2nd option in the pass game. What the previous posted failed to add to the stats were how many routes each of the listed players ran in order to get those yards and touches....

Higgins - 363 routes
Williams - 413 routes
Bateman - 404 routes
Dobbs - 329 routes
Lockett - 505 routes
Tolbert - 508 routes

Tolbert has the worst numbers with the most routes ran. The only real comparable player there is Tyler Lockett who is more of the 3rd option with Seattle, is north of 30, and his number suggest he is in decline as his Y/G have gone down each year since 2021.

 

[goshann]

Yeah hes mostly a comeback route guy and needs to develop another plus skill to really be a legitimate 2nd option in the pass game. What the previous posted failed to add to the stats were how many routes each of the listed players ran in order to get those yards and touches....

Higgins - 363 routes
Williams - 413 routes
Bateman - 404 routes
Dobbs - 329 routes
Lockett - 505 routes
Tolbert - 508 routes

Tolbert has the worst numbers with the most routes ran. The only real comparable player there is Tyler Lockett who is more of the 3rd option with Seattle, is north of 30, and his number suggest he is in decline as his Y/G have gone down each year since 2021.

Nice analysis and thoughts

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Tolbert has improved but no where near as good as Gallup was in his prime prior to his injury. Tolbert hasn’t shown enough to move up to number 2 next season.

People forget that Gallup went for 1100 yards and 6 TDs in a 16 game season.

Pre-injury he was a very good WR2.

Tolbert hasn’t shown me anything to make me think he could have a season like that.

 

[Mr_437]

Yeah hes mostly a comeback route guy and needs to develop another plus skill to really be a legitimate 2nd option in the pass game. What the previous posted failed to add to the stats were how many routes each of the listed players ran in order to get those yards and touches....

Higgins - 363 routes
Williams - 413 routes
Bateman - 404 routes
Dobbs - 329 routes
Lockett - 505 routes
Tolbert - 508 routes

Tolbert has the worst numbers with the most routes ran. The only real comparable player there is Tyler Lockett who is more of the 3rd option with Seattle, is north of 30, and his number suggest he is in decline as his Y/G have gone down each year since 2021.

A+

 

[Risen Star]

I still think he was a bad pick. He can make a play here and there when nobody's paying attention to him but a 1, 2 or even top flight 3 he is not.

 

[gimmesix]

I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?

I think he's a No. 3 at best, but the problem is when something happens to your No. 2, I don't think he's good enough to step up. A second problem is that I like Turpin better and if we get a legitimate No. 2, the more Tolbert plays, the less Turpin is in the game. So maybe he's a No. 4 to me who should rotate with Turpin so we don't wear down the little guy.

Frankly, I'm more intrigued right now with Flournoy, but maybe that's because we just haven't seen enough of him to determine he's no better than Tolbert.

 

[kskboys]

I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?

Nice 4th WR. Can fill in at the 3 if necessary.

 

[kevinhickey]

I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?

I have mixed feelings on him because I was expecting more of an impact, especially when Cook went down. Do I see him developing into WR2, no.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Seems to be playing better and he has another year to prove himself.

 

[CCBoy]

Tolbert's finger was so hyperextended and dislocated that it broke the skin, requiring stitches.

But after scoring his two touchdowns in as many games, and after witnessing just how much pain Lamb is enduring to "willingly sacrifice his body for his guys", Tolbert isn't waving off a chance to help play Grinch against the Philadelphia Eagles — in much the same way he did against the Buccaneers.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...r-injury-willing-to-play-through-it-vs-eagles

I'll take him all day long.

 

[EPL0c0]

He's depth.

Thus far I'd say he's on the Cedric Wilson WR3 level

 

[CCBoy]

Nothing more than just placing blame without seeing patterns of chosen plays with next to nothing in a first half or red zone. A redirected offense shows up differently.

 

[kskboys]

Tolbert has improved but no where near as good as Gallup was in his prime prior to his injury. Tolbert hasn’t shown enough to move up to number 2 next season.

Doesn't have the skillset to be a #2.

 

[kskboys]

People forget that Gallup went for 1100 yards and 6 TDs in a 16 game season.

Pre-injury he was a very good WR2.

Tolbert hasn’t shown me anything to make me think he could have a season like that.

Gallup was a borderline #1 before the injury.

 

[Floatyworm]

I have a hard time evaluating this guy. He has made some huge plays this season like the winning TD in Pitt and some big time jump ball catches - he was good again against the Bucs, but he goes nearly silent for games at a time.

Tolbert’s on track for a respectable season for a #3 receiver, but for most of the year he’s been our defacto #2:

47 receptions - 550 yds - 6 TDs

He does not have a great standout trait, but seems to do everything at an acceptable level. I think by year 3 we can say a player is who he is and likely won’t develop much more, so I think what we’re looking at is his peak.

Moving forward I view him as an average 3rd or 4th receiver that has a place on this team, but he should not stop the Cowboys from looking to add a quality receiver or two above him on the depth chart in

In the modern NFL, your 3rd receiver is essentially a starter given how much time teams spend in 11 personnel, and I think Dallas really needs to upgrade at WR 2 and 3 in order to field a truly competitive roster. Do you think Tolbert fits in long term?

He was always a #3 guy....or maybe....4....That we were hoping could be a #2. I don't see much difference between him and Brooks really.

 

[stinkface]

He seems to run good routes and be where he is supposed to be . Hands are inconsistent. He can make some amazing catches and then drop an easy one. Not a great leaper, but good body control. RAC does not exist. Has little strength. He right now is a number 3 and would be a number 3 on most teams. PS. That's not awful, but I think replacing him wouldn't be hard.