So, which offense will Dallas run; the 2-TE-O or the Timing-O?

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So, which offense will Dallas run; the 2-TE-Offense or the Timing-Offense? Troy Aikman recently commented that if we keep Sporano for the offense, then we will run the same system and Gareet would likely not call the plays, but learn from Sporano. And that would mean that Dallas stays with the 2-TE offense that Parcells put in. But If Garrett has full control of the offense, Troy says he knows for a fact that Garrett will want to change the offense and the terminology, and likely call the plays. Well, the offense that Garrett knows all too well is the timing offense. So, my hope is that Garrett gets full control and that we go with the timing offense, because it will make our receives the focal-point of the offense again. What do you guys think?

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i would stick with what we have now, we played very well last year and this year the guy's will be more comfortable with one another.
 

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There was nothing wrong with our offense last year ..... just the conservative play calling ....

Bill's play not to lose is hopefully history.
 

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Two things:

First: It sounds like everyone would be okay with it if the decision was to stick with the 2-TE-O. this tells me that people are not quite sold on Jason Garrett as taking full control as an offensive coordiantor.

Second: What do you do with T.O. if you run the 2-TE-Offense? Last year the game plans were not designed to make him a focal-point. So should Dallas use this as an opportunity/reason to not bring him back in 2007, or should Dallas bring him back and make him more of a focal point in the 2-TE scheme?

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zrinkill;1365742 said:
There was nothing wrong with our offense last year ..... just the conservative play calling ....

Bill's play not to lose is hopefully history.

Execution was more the issue I saw. I have no problem with all the 1st down runs and such - people were down on that but it really opened things up for Barber late in the games when he went against tired D-Linemen. The drops and o-line have been talked to death but we also had some execution problems from the FBs and TEs in the running game - I think throwing out the current O would be a major mistake at this point -- not the kind of thing you should do to a young QB. Not aggressive? Sure - but you can play more aggressive when your guys are getting it done on the basics - which sometimes wasn't the case.
 

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I have no problem with all the 1st down runs and such -

Mine was with the 3rd and 8 runs ....... when we are down by 10 in the 3rd quarter.
 

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zrinkill;1366083 said:
Mine was with the 3rd and 8 runs ....... when we are down by 10 in the 3rd quarter.

Interestingly enough, we ran Barber on 3rd and more than 6 only 12 times this entire season, and gained 102 yards on those carries.

Yet another example of the divide between perception and reality.
 

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We went away from the 2 TE offense a good bit when we switched to Romo anyway. We will not run much of that but stick with Hoyte or a new FB going forward IMO.

Sporano and Garrett will find new ways to get TO involved in the game, even some West Coast stuff if you ask me. I can't see us immediately switching offenses, That would not make a lot of sense and I don't think that a timing offense would fit TO.
 

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We are going to be doing basically a lot of the same things we did last year.

We try to do the things that the Patriots do on offense and I love that type of offense. I also love the types of offense that Jason Garrett has been brought up in.

Thats the style of offense I like though. Running the ball and setting up the pass.

Romo has shown too that he can get in the gun and hurt you as well.
 

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Garrett's been in a number of different offenses. We have no idea what his preferences are.
 

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theogt;1366156 said:
Garrett's been in a number of different offenses. We have no idea what his preferences are.

Probably the one he was in the most which is the timing offense.

Im sure he picked up some other things from coaches like Gruden but i'd bet on it that hes going to run an offense very similar to the one we've seen here in Dallas since Parcells took over.
 

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Enough of the two TE set. I cannot complain about the passing game, but I really think that both backs, particularly Jones, would benefit greatly from having a FB leading them.

I know we spent the pick on Fasano last year and brought in Hannam as well, but unless either shows they can function in a FB/HB role they ar relegated to back up duty.
 

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Yeah, we really cooled it with the 2-TE stuff once Hoyte switched to FB (around the Carolina game, I believe).

I think, at the end of the day, it's not really a scheme choice. It's personnel, and it's all moving pieces that can be used however you want. If it turns out Fasano blossoms in the offseason (the guy is still growing, 'cause he left school early -- he really ought to still be sore from a bowl game) and Hoyte and our fullbacks don't impress, then we'll work Fasano into the picture more.

People make way too much out of the 2-TE thing. It's not like we ever ran it like the Colts did, even when we were using it more earlier in the 2006 season. We just weren't that rigid in our slection and usage of formations.

I think we'll ultimately end up using whatever formations put the best possible 11 players on the field without sacrificing our ability to run or our ability to disguise our intentions.
 

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SteamedSoup;1366165 said:
Yeah, we really cooled it with the 2-TE stuff once Hoyte switched to FB (around the Carolina game, I believe).

I think, at the end of the day, it's not really a scheme choice. It's personnel, and it's all moving pieces that can be used however you want. If it turns out Fasano blossoms in the offseason (the guy is still growing, 'cause he left school early -- he really ought to still be sore from a bowl game) and Hoyte and our fullbacks don't impress, then we'll work Fasano into the picture more.

People make way too much out of the 2-TE thing. It's not like we ever ran it like the Colts did, even when we were using it more earlier in the 2006 season. We just weren't that rigid in our slection and usage of formations.

I think we'll ultimately end up using whatever formations put the best possible 11 players on the field without sacrificing our ability to run or our ability to disguise our intentions.
Hoyte did well, but I want them to bring in a guy who has a little more experience.
 

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The 2 TE O is great if you have two great TE's. We have one great TE in Witten.

I like Hoyte in the backfield.

I'd like to see the timing offense get gradually worked back in with what already is in place. I think as Garrett grows, this offense will grow and shine.
 

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carphalen5150;1366169 said:
Hoyte did well, but I want them to bring in a guy who has a little more experience.

Fullbacks just not that important of a position and if you have a guy who looked as promising as Hoyte did at times and your paying him next to nothing then you gotta stick with that guy.

Also look at the Patriots offense. They got about 4 really good Tight Ends.

Getting multiple TE's on the field works and if Fasano can even come as close to being as good as Witten then the more TE's we can get on the field the better.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;1365719 said:
So, which offense will Dallas run; the 2-TE-Offense or the Timing-Offense? Troy Aikman recently commented that if we keep Sporano for the offense, then we will run the same system and Gareet would likely not call the plays, but learn from Sporano. And that would mean that Dallas stays with the 2-TE offense that Parcells put in. But If Garrett has full control of the offense, Troy says he knows for a fact that Garrett will want to change the offense and the terminology, and likely call the plays. Well, the offense that Garrett knows all too well is the timing offense. So, my hope is that Garrett gets full control and that we go with the timing offense, because it will make our receives the focal-point of the offense again. What do you guys think?

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I think we will continue to take advantage of the 2 TE formation and I think we will see a lot of the timing offense as well but in truth that is no different than what we did this past season. Dallas did not line up in 2 TE all the time and many of our passing routs are timing based routs. I could see one differance in how the FB is untilized.
 
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