Last year could wind up looking bad if Guyton busts. We passed on Xavier Worthy. If Guyton busts, Id take Worthy over Beebe. Thats the risk of trading down. I think people discount that too much
He isn't going to.
You seem pretty sure about a guy that was a healthy scratch for Edoga when he came back injury.
The fact he was a healthy scratch means nothing for the 2025 season.
I would say it means alot. Especially considering some of the things that came out about his work ethic and being soft
I think getting a future 1 is very far fetched having just the 12th pick. Do think we can find a small trade back and get us either a 3rd or a 4th back
Question is more like Barton over Guyton and Beebe, that is who they were going to draft
A 2026 1st has the same value now as a 2025 2nd, and moving down to 18 and below is where the difference begins to be valued at a 2nd. 19/20 is more reasonable for a 2nd round value. We move down there and a 2026 1st is definitely a possibility.
I'm with you, Guyton being a healthy scratch last season doesn't hold water for 2025. The kid has to mature and progress, and I think we will see signs of that in Guyton's second year. He has a better OL coach now and I think Riley will motivate and mold this kid into a solid player going forward. Leaning heavily on the run will benefit Guyton and allow him to play downhill as well.
Guyton had some ups last year too. It wasn't all down. He's got the physical makeup and, at least at the beginning of the year, showed tremendous work ethic to move to the left. I think--or hope--our new OL coach is going to do a better job keeping him level when things don't go his way. I still have hope for Guyton, for sure.
I don’t see any prospect worth coming up for, even these qb’s
I think a team over valuing a QB is our only real shot at a trade down. Sanders is our best hope. We'll have to see what comes out in Dart when the pro mockers start using team intel
I've read that Denver could be interested in coming up for one of the tight ends. I'm sure that is just speculation but both Warren and Loveland are head and shoulders above the next-best TE prospect and may be gone before the Broncos pick at 20.
I don't see a QB dropping, just too many teams needing them ahead of us (Sanders). The question is, will a team trade up to 12 for the next tier of QB's? (Milroe/Dart). At this time, don't think they are viewed that high.
Extremely rare a team trades up for the TE position.
I think Campbell and Membou go ahead of us. I dont think Banks will be viewed that highly as an OT. Simmons is a real wild card there though. Best OT in this class when he was healthy. There have good leaks on his medicals, but what information teams have is whats going to matter
Funny, you are saying this ......The Browns have started 11 different QBs under their current HC. Read a couple of nuggets, they may have 2 options
I don't think the Cowboys are anywhere near as down on Guyton as fans. They are not going to admit that kind of mistake on a first round after only one year. That's not to say they won't draft an OL high but IMO it will be more about the right side of finding Martin or Steele replacement than Guyton.
I have serious doubts after people were questioning his mental makeup and he was a healthy scratch after coming back.
