Some interesting comments from Dane on the scout podcast

[Cowboyny]

Yup…didn’t know much about this until the podcast but factor in his struggles in the run game and that’s why he’s not a top 50 prospect.

Almost every media scout has him as a 3rd rd prospect, this is based on his film and testing, not the off the field concerns. There could be several teams that take him off their boards.

 

[Cowboyny]

MM and Quinn were at Penn States pro day. Is Ebkitie considered another Parsons by the coaches. This will be a fun draft. How high would Williams go if he did not have that history.

I think this is the issue with many fans, his tape is a 3rd rd player, which is before factoring his character issues which includes being accused of sexual assault

 

[baltcowboy]

I think this is the issue with many fans, his tape is a 3rd rd player, which is before factoring his character issues which includes being accused of sexual assault

12.5 half sacks in the SEC and he played well against Cross. His tape is bad??? ok

 

[Cowboyny]

12.5 half sacks in the SEC and he played well against Cross. His tape is bad??? ok

Not bad, just not a top tier prospect as many think especially in a deep class

 

[Floatyworm]

Was talking with Dane on Twitter last week...he dropped a name....Jurgines...... the Nebraska center as a 2nd round pick. Thought that was an interesting take. He said scouts are high on him. The last time I doubted a player....Bunting....Dane nailed it in the 2nd round.

 

[Malhavoc]

The off the field stuff has to be vetted. I think it’s more likely that he drops in to the 3rd round.

 

[baltcowboy]

Not bad, just not a top tier prospect as many think especially in a deep class

You know I like messing with you. We basically are on the same page though. Get the guard/tight end run the football. I also think we need to use one of those 5th rounders on a running back.

 

[reddyuta]

Ebeketie did well in his pro day,i feel like he is a top 2nd RD pick though.

 

[Landryhat73]

Yup…didn’t know much about this until the podcast but factor in his struggles in the run game and that’s why he’s not a top 50 prospect.

I really don’t get the love for Williams. I’m no scout and only watch highlight clips but he isn’t a quick twitch athlete. You can tell he is fast but he can’t bend or change directions well at all.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Was talking with Dane on Twitter last week...he dropped a name....Jurgines...... the Nebraska center as a 2nd round pick. Thought that was an interesting take. He said scouts are high on him. The last time I doubted a player....Bunting....Dane nailed it in the 2nd round.

The Cowboys scouts really, really liked (still like) Matt Farniok. It wouldn't surprise me if Jurgens was flashing all over those game films.

Jurgens was one of the top Tight End recruits coming out of high school. He was also an all-state basketball player and track (shotput, discus). Incredibly high ceiling.

Broaddus doesn't seem very high on him and I've yet to hear or ready why.

 

[morasp]

What's the name of that podcast? I'm struggling to find it

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[Gaede]

I really don’t get the love for Williams. I’m no scout and only watch highlight clips but he isn’t a quick twitch athlete. You can tell he is fast but he can’t bend or change directions well at all.

It's pretty straightforward: He had 12 sacks and tested extremely well. Production+athleticism=good prospect.

He's obviously got his warts but getting the QB is a skill he clearly has

 

[Landryhat73]

It's pretty straightforward: He had 12 sacks and tested extremely well. Production+athleticism=good prospect.

He's obviously got his warts but getting the QB is a skill he clearly has

Just worried about the agility because he skipped the 3 cone & shuttle at the combine.

 

[Cowboyny]

I really don’t get the love for Williams. I’m no scout and only watch highlight clips but he isn’t a quick twitch athlete. You can tell he is fast but he can’t bend or change directions well at all.

Many media scouts view him as a 3rd rd prospect, not an elite one. Not as twitched up as the higher prospects, but still a good developmental pass rusher to mold.

 

[morasp]

NFL ranks WIlliams 48th overall so he would be good value at 56. I'm sure they'll check out the character stuff.

 

[Plankton]

I think this is the issue with many fans, his tape is a 3rd rd player, which is before factoring his character issues which includes being accused of sexual assault

Ed Ingram has the same issue

 

[Gaede]

Ebeketie did well in his pro day,i feel like he is a top 2nd RD pick though.

I'm warming up to Ebiketie in Rd 1. Ideally in a lil trade down, but I really like the player.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I listened to the plug and play podcast this morning with Dane, Broaddus and Jeff. Dane who is one of the better media scouts, made a few interesting comments:

-There are 9 top receivers in this draft class, he believes there is a chance 1 or multiple make it to pick 56. Here is his 9, in no particular order: Williams, London, Wilson, Olave, Burks, Dotson, Pickens, Watson, Moore.

-David Bell ran poorly at his pro day, but he is a good late day 2 prospect. He said, you don't draft him for his speed. He is another one that could be a good pick in that late 3rd rd range.

-Has Zion Johnson over Kenyon Green and believes Ed Ingram could be more of a day 3 pick. Thinks Penning is a top 15 pick, even could go top 10.

-Believes Tyler Smith will be a top 40 pick, but scares the hell out of him, believes he should be taken later.

-Cowboys should consider, Penn State's Ebiketie at 24, says he is very twitched up. Doesn't like Mafe as a 1st rd pick, but believes he gets selected there.

-Has a 3rd rd grade on Sam Williams and said there are serious character issues that teams need to investigate. My thinking is, he has a chance to slip to the team's 3rd rd selection. If this is the case, perhaps, they could take 1 of those 9 receivers and still land Williams.

Taking a WR in the first would be foolhardy. Had Cooper last year and it did little for us once the oline took a dump. The OLINE MUST be the priority if we have any hope of the offense improving. Then focus on the Dline.

 

[Cowboyny]

Taking a WR in the first would be foolhardy. Had Cooper last year and it did little for us once the oline took a dump. The OLINE MUST be the priority if we have any hope of the offense improving. Then focus on the Dline.

I agree, it should be all about the trenches, but we know this team has avoided taking defensive lineman in rd 1.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree, it should be all about the trenches, but we know this team has avoided taking defensive lineman in rd 1.

The way its looking to me is that the Cowboys are sending out a smoke screen that WR could be their target, but OL and DE will be the target in rounds 1 and 2. I still dont see them taking a DT. They have drafted a ton of those the last 3 years.