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Garrett went 5-3 as Ineterim HC.

The 3 losses were by a total of 7 points.

Total night and day vs Wade.
 
Most of the pressure was off as well. Hopefully Jerry sees through this.
 
The Realist;3797443 said:
Garrett went 5-3 as Ineterim HC.

The 3 losses were by a total of 7 points.

Total night and day vs Wade.
There was a lot of difference. Effort, results, attitude, and even performance.

With all of our starters and a full year of this kind of system we will be a very good football team.
 
Hostile;3797471 said:
There was a lot of difference. Effort, results, attitude, and even performance.

With all of our starters and a full year of this kind of system we will be a very good football team.

I think so too. You play like you practice...
 
Not really. 5 of the 7 losses under Wade were by 7pts or less.

The two games that ppl point to where Wade lost the team was in the Jax and GB games.

Penalty issues improved after Wade brought the refs to practice.

Def turnovers increased after Wade was fired and offensive turnovers decreased.
 
WoodysGirl;3797476 said:
Not really. 5 of the 7 losses under Wade were by 7pts or less.

The two games that ppl point to where Wade lost the team was in the Jax and GB games.

Penalty issues improved after Wade brought the refs to practice.

Def turnovers increased after Wade was fired and offensive turnovers decreased.

And Wade had Romo 7 games and Dez for 8 games .. just saying ..

-Reality
 
Reality;3797493 said:
And Wade had Romo 7 games and Dez for 8 games .. just saying ..

-Reality
That's true. But the offensive production throughout the season was about the same. It was the defense that cratered and cost Wade his job.

The team's ability to lose close games didn't stop with Wade. Garrett simply got them to play a little better so that they could win a few of them.
 
You guys are making this WAY more complicated than it really is. It is very simple

Wade: 1-7
Jason: 5-3

End of discussion
 
Reality;3797493 said:
And Wade had Romo 7 games and Dez for 8 games .. just saying ..

-Reality

He had Romo for 5.25 games, and a good chance would have been 4-4 or 3-5 if he hadn't gotten hurt.
 
ChldsPlay;3797504 said:
He had Romo for 5.25 games, and a good chance would have been 4-4 or 3-5 if he hadn't gotten hurt.

Yes but had he not been hurt Garret could have easily been 8-0.
 
WoodysGirl;3797499 said:
That's true. But the offensive production throughout the season was about the same. It was the defense that cratered and cost Wade his job.

The team's ability to lose close games didn't stop with Wade. Garrett simply got them to play a little better so that they could win a few of them.

80% of games are won with a positive turn-over ration. Both offensive turnovers decreased and defensive gains was far above any over the past decade of Cowboy play. That goes directly to Jason Garrett earning the mark. With or without the benefit of both Tony Romo and Dez Bryant. Both of which are close to Super Bowl level additions that are required by a Lombardi type of team. At the positions of quarterback and wide receiver. As well as the top level leadership that Romo could additionally add required of a Lombardi type team as well.
 
birdwells1;3797664 said:
Garrett is better than Wade, so what does that mean?

Means he knows how to win with a 2nd and 3rd string QB and the loss of his best receiver.
 
WoodysGirl;3797476 said:
Not really. 5 of the 7 losses under Wade were by 7pts or less.

The two games that ppl point to where Wade lost the team was in the Jax and GB games.

Penalty issues improved after Wade brought the refs to practice.

Def turnovers increased after Wade was fired and offensive turnovers decreased.

If you are trying to make the case that things werent that bad under Wade, or that things didnt drastically improve after he left, thats a major FAIL
 
I like Jason better. Wade just always reminded me of that Stay Puff Marshmallow Guy - I know that isn't the best reason to not like a coach, but I just couldn't shake that thought.

I think Jason will be more strict on the players and hold them more accountable. And he may try to overrule Jerry when it comes to keeping pet players.
 
dbair1967;3797761 said:
If you are trying to make the case that things werent that bad under Wade, or that things didnt drastically improve after he left, thats a major FAIL
No, the fail is by the OP suggesting that the losses under Garrett were so significantly better. Yes, things were different. The team won a few more games. But is losing by a combined 7 pts that much different than the five losses under Wade where they were trying to play and each loss was by 7pts or less?

The offense was more than decent, but the defense was never never championship-level.

After the team gave up, JG did an admirable job righting the ship and getting them to play to their level and be competitive, but it wasn't like it was that much better.

The OL was still inconsistent, the drops by receivers continued, and the defense was still a sieve. It was still the same team under Wade, but they decided to play hard again. What saved them is the number of penalties per game went down.
 
WoodysGirl;3797795 said:
No, the fail is by the OP suggesting that the losses under Garrett were so significantly better. Yes, things were different. The team won a few more games. But is losing by a combined 7 pts that much different than the five losses under Wade where they were trying to play and each loss was by 7pts or less?

The offense was more than decent, but the defense was never never championship-level.

After the team gave up, JG did an admirable job righting the ship and getting them to play to their level and be competitive, but it wasn't like it was that much better.

The OL was still inconsistent, the drops by receivers continued, and the defense was still a sieve. It was still the same team under Wade, but they decided to play hard again. What saved them is the number of penalties per game went down.

I think you're missing the point, WG ..

When Wade was the coach, the team had Romo and more importantly, hope, for a post-season appearance. The last game Wade coached, the team knew the season was over, knew they no longer had Romo and hope was relegated to next season.

Garrett, who came in and with a 38 year old backup quarterback that had not started an NFL game in 2 years, playing the Giants in New York who owned Dallas just 3 weeks prior at home and fresh off a prime time slaughter at the hands of Green Bay, was able to lead the Cowboys to a win in a game where they were a 14-point underdog. He did this with a team that had given up just one week prior and one that knew the season was over playoff wise.

So, yes, the losses under Garrett were WAY better than the losses under Wade and that has absolutely nothing to do with the scores or the point losses. It has more to do with Garrett doing more with less and again, more importantly with their playoff hopes long gone.

-Reality
 
Remember that Giants game ended up being close, but the Giants manhandled and embarrassed our defense for most of that game. A full offseason of attention to detail will hopefully make a huge difference.
 
WoodysGirl;3797795 said:
No, the fail is by the OP suggesting that the losses under Garrett were so significantly better. Yes, things were different. The team won a few more games. But is losing by a combined 7 pts that much different than the five losses under Wade where they were trying to play and each loss was by 7pts or less?

The offense was more than decent, but the defense was never never championship-level.

After the team gave up, JG did an admirable job righting the ship and getting them to play to their level and be competitive, but it wasn't like it was that much better.

The OL was still inconsistent, the drops by receivers continued, and the defense was still a sieve. It was still the same team under Wade, but they decided to play hard again. What saved them is the number of penalties per game went down.

Please stop. You are embarrassing yourself.

You said it yourself, "the same team decided to play harder."

That alone is night and day vs. what Wade accomplished.

1 and 7 vs. 5 and 3.

I'd call that night and day as well.

Turn over margin was something like -9 vs +9.

# of penalties.......night and day.

I'd call that night and day.

Like DB said, you failed.

Move along.
 

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