Something is rancid in Dallas

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Hello people, first post here.

Something is terribly wrong with this club, this is now the 2nd game of the season where we have Totally and Completely dominated an opponent defensively and then bellied up in the crunch. My take is that the OC - Sean Payton tightens up in the big spot and tries to impress Parcells with his calling - he tries to call the game like "Bill would" Here's the problem: Bill is not an OC, Bill is a defensive guy. What we need is a guy who has his own ideas - has his own set of "guts".

- Where has the deep ball gone? Why have they stopped throwing deep? I haven't see us hit a big one since Glen in the Oakland game.
- How in the world do you call 2 runs to Barber after the Roy pick and then play for a FG? How? Didn't we do that in Washington? Didn't Bill learn?
- Jerry has a right to wonder about his head coach, he really does. In all my years of Dallas football, I don't recall two losses like this. These losses happen ever few years, not within weeks of each other, which is why I think something is rancid in BigD - maybe the Tuna?

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Parcells sideline antics are getting old, could you see Tom Landry swinging at Gene Stallings?
 

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Good first post. You make some good points. I think they tried the deep ball once early, got it picked and felt spurned. I would have liked them to go back to it more though.
 

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VanTheMan said:
Hello people, first post here.

Something is terribly wrong with this club, this is now the 2nd game of the season where we have Totally and Completely dominated an opponent defensively and then bellied up in the crunch. My take is that the OC - Sean Payton tightens up in the big spot and tries to impress Parcells with his calling - he tries to call the game like "Bill would" Here's the problem: Bill is not an OC, Bill is a defensive guy. What we need is a guy who has his own ideas - has his own set of "guts".

- Where has the deep ball gone? Why have they stopped throwing deep? I haven't see us hit a big one since Glen in the Oakland game.
- How in the world do you call 2 runs to Barber after the Roy pick and then play for a FG? How? Didn't we do that in Washington? Didn't Bill learn?
- Jerry has a right to wonder about his head coach, he really does. In all my years of Dallas football, I don't recall two losses like this. These losses happen ever few years, not within weeks of each other, which is why I think something is rancid in BigD - maybe the Tuna?

Lastly,
Parcells sideline antics are getting old, could you see Tom Landry swinging at Gene Stallings?

:welcome:

I'll give you my take. The long bal has gone because our offensive line sucks without Flo and someone helping Big Rob.

Again I think with the offensive line being so bad you don't want to risk losing yardage. With that being said I would have tried a play action to Witten.

As for the close losses you can take that one of two ways. My take is that this team is a lot better than it's been since the 90's so we're not having blowouts. If we'd lost to Seattle by 21 points no one would be saying stuff like this IMO.
 

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Where has the deep ball gone? Why have they stopped throwing deep? I haven't see us hit a big one since Glen in the Oakland game.

We tried to throw the ball deep three times. Result? 2 INT's and a botched flea flicker resulting with a tackle for a loss. No telling how many of those 4 sacks came on attempts to go deep, as well.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
We tried to throw the ball deep three times. Result? 2 INT's and a botched flea flicker resulting with a tackle for a loss. No telling how many of those 4 sacks came on attempts to go deep, as well.
Not that hard to figure out is it?
 

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No telling how many of those 4 sacks came on attempts to go deep, as well.

Exactly ... but, Drew needs to go to the check down and stop holding the ball so long. He needs to recognize the times when the pocket is collapsing verses the times when the protection is holding up. I expect that from my veteran QB. He has to have a feel for the protection.
 

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I'm also wondering if Bledsoe has lost some zip on his fastball? He threw some slop out there yesterday, granted it was raining but he did some of the same in the Giants game.

I also wonder if Glenn is hiding a nagging injury? he hasn't got behind a guy in awhile.
 

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I think they are to uptight under Parcells, look how he acted with Haley and how he yells at players when they come off the field, all except Bledsoe, I fear he might be losing this team, example Allen/Cortez and Key/Drew. :iggles: :trophy: :suxiggle: :disseags:
 

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Sportsbabe said:
Exactly ... but, Drew needs to go to the check down and stop holding the ball so long. He needs to recognize the times when the pocket is collapsing verses the times when the protection is holding up. I expect that from my veteran QB. He has to have a feel for the protection.

There is no checkdown. They are in the backfield, helping out our great Tackles. There is no one open. The DB's outnumber our receivers. We have to keep too many people in to help block.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
We tried to throw the ball deep three times. Result? 2 INT's and a botched flea flicker resulting with a tackle for a loss. No telling how many of those 4 sacks came on attempts to go deep, as well.

Let's be real here, the first interception was a complete fluke.

The second one was on a twelve yard out. Hardly a deep ball.

The fleaflicker was horrible.
 

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AmishCowboy said:
I think they are to uptight under Parcells, look how he acted with Haley and how he yells at players when they come off the field, all except Bledsoe, I fear he might be losing this team, example Allen/Cortez and Key/Drew. :iggles: :trophy: :suxiggle: :disseags:

Yeah, we've won 2 consecutive division games, including probably the biggest Cowboys win in 10 years. But after 1 close loss on the road to a very good team, Parcells has lost the team.

I'm glad there's no over-reaction on this board or anything.
 

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Let's be real here, the first interception was a complete fluke.

The second one was on a twelve yard out. Hardly a deep ball.

The fleaflicker was horrible.

Okay, you get real by explaining to me how getting impatient and forcing the deep ball into 2 deep coverage is a fluke when its intercepted, like it was on Drew's first interception. That's not a fluke. That's what 2 deep coverage is designed for. When two guys get around the football, those tiped pass interceptions tend to happen.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
We tried to throw the ball deep three times. Result? 2 INT's and a botched flea flicker resulting with a tackle for a loss. No telling how many of those 4 sacks came on attempts to go deep, as well.

Wait a minute be at least a little bit fair.

1. First INT was a freak play the WR was covered, but the ball was bouncing to the ground harmlessly until it hit Glenn's body and bounced in the air for a really freak INT.

2. Flea Flicker - Nothing more than a trick play gone wrong. Just like I would not consider a reverse that gains few yards proof that the running game is messed up.

3. The last INT was really not all that deep, but it was a horrible throw.

The thing is as far as I am concerned you have to throw the ball deep occasionally wether you like it or not to keep the defense honest.

I know Inman you dont happen to believe that Dallas is conservative, but most of the nation and BP admits himself that they are indeed conservative.

However, yesterday I did not really have a problem with the playcalling until Dallas reached the redzone. From there it was questionable at best.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Okay, you get real by explaining to me how getting impatient and forcing the deep ball into 2 deep coverage is a fluke when its intercepted, like it was on Drew's first interception. That's not a fluke. That's what 2 deep coverage is designed for. When two guys get around the football, those tiped pass INT's tend to happen.

Sometimes you have to take your shot. I'm sure it isn't the first time Bledsoe has challenged a double coverage. This is the NFL, you have to be able to take that shot sometimes. You cannot always have a guy prefectly wide open. Glenn had good position, it would have been a tough catch, but the interception part was indeed a fluke.
 

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we are like the patriots of past years except we cant finish the games like they do, maybe thats cuase they have a kicker?
 

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The Cowboys are playing good football for the most part. They took 2 out of 3 against the top teams in the NFC. Drew is still new here. He's looked horrible before and he always bounces back. You know he needs pass protection.
 

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Against seattle, playing with tucker insead of Flo and with barber and TT instead of Jones, all of a sudden we can run the ball.......

I think Seattle coaches decided lets sell out to stop their passing game, double glen, try to maintain tight coverage on Witten and lets really come after drew. If they break a few runs here or there thats ok cause the passing game is their strength. seattle was betting we couldnt score without hiiting a few big pass plays and they were right.

Granted pass protection was bad, but it sure seemed like our players were not getting open either
 

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A guy from Seattle was on Fox Sports radio a few minutes ago and he said there game plan was to match their D-line up with our O-line. They felt as though they could win that battle.
 

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BlueWave said:
The DB's outnumber our receivers. We have to keep too many people in to help block.

That's not good. How can we expect to pass the ball with that set up?
 
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