Something to consider... Carpenter

DBOY3141 · Apr 23, 2006

Within the next two years we have Witten, Williams, James, Newman as FA's. If any were to leave it would be James. If we draft Carpenter he can play all 4 LB positions. Start him this year at OLB, James leaves, move him to ILB, by then Burnett would be ready to take over at OLB. Lawson/Wimbley I don't think could ever play inside and the jury is still out if Burnett can.

Just a thought.

Vintage · Apr 23, 2006

DBOY3141 said:
Within the next two years we have Witten, Williams, James, Newman as FA's. If any were to leave it would be James. If we draft Carpenter he can play all 4 LB positions. Start him this year at OLB, James leaves, move him to ILB, by then Burnett would be ready to take over at OLB. Lawson/Wimbley I don't think could ever play inside and the jury is still out if Burnett can.

Just a thought.

Another benefit of Carpenter.

However, I don't think we let Bradie go next season. He was vital to our 3-4. But in case of injury, it sure would be nice to have Carpenter there....

ghst187 · Apr 23, 2006

Vintage said:
Another benefit of Carpenter.

However, I don't think we let Bradie go next season. He was vital to our 3-4. But in case of injury, it sure would be nice to have Carpenter there....

I agree, we've spent too much on James already. We wasted 3 years waiting for him to finally come around, now he has, we shouldn't let him go.

Rack · Apr 23, 2006

ghst187 said:
I agree, we've spent too much on James already. We wasted 3 years waiting for him to finally come around, now he has, we shouldn't let him go.

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I wouldn't say he's come around already. He needs to get better.

AbeBeta · Apr 23, 2006

Jerry never lets good players get away. That is something that nobody has to worry about.

Me, I like Carpenter -- I think he's a better fit than Lawson or Wimberely -- neither of whom are great against the run - which is what they need to do first.

Rack · Apr 23, 2006

abersonc said:
Jerry never lets good players get away. That is something that nobody has to worry about.

Me, I like Carpenter -- I think he's a better fit than Lawson or Wimberely -- neither of whom are great against the run - which is what they need to do first.

He has before. Randall Godfrey and Ken Norton Jr come to mind.

Although that was back when the cowboys didn't pay LBs.

Yeagermeister · Apr 23, 2006

Until Burnett starts showing something I'd rather keep James.

big dog cowboy · Apr 23, 2006

Rack said:
He has before. Randall Godfrey and Ken Norton Jr come to mind.

Emmitt Smith, Larry Brown, Godfrey Myles, Mark Stepnoski, Alvin Harper, Kenneth Gant, Dixon Edwards, Brock Marion, Robert Jones, Russell Maryland........

proline · Apr 23, 2006

big dog cowboy said:
Emmitt Smith, Larry Brown, Godfrey Myles, Mark Stepnoski, Alvin Harper, Kenneth Gant, Dixon Edwards, Brock Marion, Robert Jones, Russell Maryland........

Did any of those guys go on to do anything great anywhere else?

speedkilz88 · Apr 23, 2006

Ken Norton, Kevin Gogan, and Brock Marion all became pro bowl players with their other teams. Randall Godfrey and Mark Stepnoski continued to have very good careers. Godfrey still is playing well for SD.

bobbie brewskie · Apr 23, 2006

1. we have 12.6 million i cap space
2. James is young, young = good. James is still improving and i like the leadership he brings to this team, something he does do much better than dat.
3. i think James and Ayodele are coming together well (judged by interviews) and they are both leaders (i follow the jags) and together i think they might prove to be the leaders of our defense/team.
4. releasing james isnt worth it, i dont see him being a cap casualty and even if there is some1 better the saying goes, "there are never enough LB's in a 3-4" so we keep him for depth if more talent comes along.

no matter what i say we keep james around!

btw we have the cap space (#1) to resign our vets and not even have to worry about coming close to the cap.

speedkilz88 · Apr 23, 2006

Who would release James? After the season is over he will be a free agent, depending on his play vs. Burnett & Ayodele's play; and the contract he asks for will determine if he stays or not.

VACowboy · Apr 23, 2006

Don't forget Ron Stone.

Jerry has let lots of LBs go but we played a different defense and were in a completely different cap situation at the time.

jbsg02 · Apr 24, 2006

i thoguth newman signed a 7 year deal as a rookie?

blindzebra · Apr 24, 2006

bobbie brewskie said:
1. we have 12.6 million i cap space
2. James is young, young = good. James is still improving and i like the leadership he brings to this team, something he does do much better than dat.
3. i think James and Ayodele are coming together well (judged by interviews) and they are both leaders (i follow the jags) and together i think they might prove to be the leaders of our defense/team.
4. releasing james isnt worth it, i dont see him being a cap casualty and even if there is some1 better the saying goes, "there are never enough LB's in a 3-4" so we keep him for depth if more talent comes along.

no matter what i say we keep james around!

btw we have the cap space (#1) to resign our vets and not even have to worry about coming close to the cap.

James a better leader than Dat?

Dude what are you smoking?

Zaxor · Apr 24, 2006

Ron Stone left and played in some probowls I believe

CrazyCowboy · Apr 24, 2006

DBOY3141 said:
Within the next two years we have Witten, Williams, James, Newman as FA's. If any were to leave it would be James. If we draft Carpenter he can play all 4 LB positions. Start him this year at OLB, James leaves, move him to ILB, by then Burnett would be ready to take over at OLB. Lawson/Wimbley I don't think could ever play inside and the jury is still out if Burnett can.

Just a thought.

Unfortunately, I did not see Carpenter play very much, however, the more I read about him.......hum....makes you wonder

BrAinPaiNt · Apr 24, 2006

blindzebra said:
James a better leader than Dat?

Dude what are you smoking?

I think it is far fetched to say James is a better leader on the Cowboys than Dat...as we don't really hear much about James in the locker room.

But I would doubt that it would be a stretch to think that James is not a leader or can not be a leader...since he was at LSU.

Still no way of knowing if he is or will ever be a better leader than Dat was.

So although i agree it may sound far fetched as of now, does not mean it really is far fetched yet.

MinnesotaCowboy · Apr 24, 2006

big dog cowboy said:
Emmitt Smith, Larry Brown, Godfrey Myles, Mark Stepnoski, Alvin Harper, Kenneth Gant, Dixon Edwards, Brock Marion, Robert Jones, Russell Maryland........

Several of these guys left because they thought they were better than they actually were and the $$$ were there for the taking! Smith was getting older and slower, Gant was a druggie!:starspin

AbeBeta · Apr 24, 2006

big dog cowboy said:
Emmitt Smith, Larry Brown, Godfrey Myles, Mark Stepnoski, Alvin Harper, Kenneth Gant, Dixon Edwards, Brock Marion, Robert Jones, Russell Maryland........

How many of these guys were in their prime? very few.

how many of these guys were recent? none.

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