Speculation: Do you think Quinn's salary is more or less than 90% of what McCarthy's is?

[_sturt_]

Been thinking about this awhile, and maybe it got some conversation here sometime when I was away or not paying attention, but I'm strongly inclined to believe those that say Quinn is taking home a head coach salary. Effectively, then, Jerry's paying for two head coaches, though I figure McCarthy's making something significantly more than Quinn nonetheless. This, then, traces back plausibly to why Kellen was let go. Essentially, it made sense to reallocate the coaching budget so that Quinn was paid more like McCarthy had been, and then McCarthy received a big portion of what had been Kellen's. You think?

 

[Majic]

Maybe 75% of what Mike gets as a guess

 

[thunderpimp91]

I bet Quinn makes about $5MM, McCarthy roughly $4MM + incentives that can push him ahead of DQ. I'd be shocked if that factored into the KM decision at all though. No cap on coaches and their HC is paid pretty low compared to others around the league.

 

[JD_KaPow]

You do realize there's no salary cap on coaches, right? There's no "reallocating the coaching budget."

 

[75boyz]

Equal to or more.
Also, an under the table handshake understanding that Quinn is the next HC "IF" McCarthy we're to stumble.
jmo

 

[_sturt_]

There's no "reallocating the coaching budget."

Who says there's not a budget?

What organization of any size doesn't operate on a budget?

I do realize there's not a league ordained cap. Of course. But yeah... doesn't matter... they know how much they want to pay in any given year, even if they may not stick to it if the right situation arises.

 

[Gambit]

I'll never understand the infatuation with another man's money.

 

[_sturt_]

I'll never understand the infatuation with another man's money.

hehe... not about the money... the money, though, is an quantifiable expression of value, and in this case, what Jerry decided he had to pay to keep Quinn here. Not actually interested in what the raw numbers/amounts are, me. And, truth be told, I wish my other sports teams had the luxury of two top dogs who could work together. It's a good feeling.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Who says there's not a budget?

What organization of any size doesn't operate on a budget?

I do realize there's not a league ordained cap. Of course. But yeah... doesn't matter... they know how much they want to pay in any given year, even if they may not stick to it if the right situation arises.

That's just not how it works. They pay McCarthy and Quinn what they negotiate with them. They don't get rid of Moore and say, "hey, there's money left over now in the coach budget, let's figure out how to distribute it among the other coaches!" The two things have nothing to do with each other.

 

[_sturt_]

That's just not how it works.

I'm content for you to think that. No problem at all.

If it seems wild to you that they'd budget for personnel, then I'm sure you'll feel it's just flat-out crazy that they'd budget for marketing, budget for scouting, budget for facilities, budget for yada yada yada.

If you've ran an organization of any size, you know. Again, it's not that you follow your budget to the dollar. But you want to make money, so you want to understand your boundaries on both the income and the expense side. It's not just a willy-nilly, seat of your pants thing. That's just not how it works. But you believe what you want, and I'll believe what I've experienced in more than one context.

 

[HungryLion]

Who says there's not a budget?

What organization of any size doesn't operate on a budget?

I do realize there's not a league ordained cap. Of course. But yeah... doesn't matter... they know how much they want to pay in any given year, even if they may not stick to it if the right situation arises.

The owner is the GM and is a billionaire. He sets whatever budget he wants.

 

[Loso86]

Been thinking about this awhile, and maybe it got some conversation here sometime when I was away or not paying attention, but I'm strongly inclined to believe those that say Quinn is taking home a head coach salary. Effectively, then, Jerry's paying for two head coaches, though I figure McCarthy's making something significantly more than Quinn nonetheless. This, then, traces back plausibly to why Kellen was let go. Essentially, it made sense to reallocate the coaching budget so that Quinn was paid more like McCarthy had been, and then McCarthy received a big portion of what had been Kellen's. You think?

Why does it matter in all honesty

 

[JBond]

I'll never understand the infatuation with another man's money.

It is agenda driven Someone has a stick up the wazoo about our coaches.

 

[JBond]

That's just not how it works. They pay McCarthy and Quinn what they negotiate with them. They don't get rid of Moore and say, "hey, there's money left over now in the coach budget, let's figure out how to distribute it among the other coaches!" The two things have nothing to do with each other.

Have you ever run a business? Owned one? Just curious.

 

[acr731]

MM is the 2nd lowest paid HC in the NFL. What does that say about Scrooge Jerry who is worth 13.4 billion?

 

[_sturt_]

The owner is the GM and is a billionaire. He sets whatever budget he wants.

True. But you're missing the point, maybe.

He does set a budget.

And, maybe to your point, but it's one I'd already acknowledged, he also decides when he wants to make exceptions.

But to my original point and to the upset of the poster protesting... an exception this year is not an exception for next year's budget... it's already baked in to the calculus.

 

[_sturt_]

MM is the 2nd lowest paid HC in the NFL. What does that say about Scrooge Jerry who is worth 13.4 billion?

Source?

I'm unaware that that's public knowledge as a matter of routine for 32 teams. But educate me. Maybe I just didn't know.

A quick Google found multiple sources confirm it was for 5 years, but none seem to have any primary source to pin down the annual number. Some say $4m, some say as much as $7m... plausibly because he has incentives built-in. But my own go-to for all sports contracts is Spotrac, and they don't even pretend to know.

Jerry, a "scrooge?" Not sure how you get there. He's a businessman, and a capitalist. You don't make money by making ill-informed, ill-calculated business decisions. He's also an oil man and a risk taker. He will make bets. And lastly, I'm not going to investigate the $13.4B figure, but I am going to suggest that whatever his net worth, a significant portion of that net worth is a non-liquid asset... the proverbial goose that lays his golden eggs... the Dallas-by-God Cowboys.

 

[Havic]

Quinn gets paid 10% less than MM but gets unlimited Yacht access

 

[_sturt_]

Why does it matter in all honesty

Why does it matter to anyone else?

Can't say it does. Hence, my thought to put it out there, just to see.


Why does it matter to me?

I guess it's just a cool thought that the Cowboys are so well-stocked at the top, two very well-respected head coaches, one "the" head coach, the other a "vice head coach" if you will, and who get along so well and no doubt make each other better. And so, along with that, comes the thought about how they're compensated in that appreciably unique situation. And, until they're actually playing real football, I think most thoughts and questions are fair game in this forum, but maybe that's just me.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

DQ probably makes less than 90%....but not that much less. He really deserves more i think, bigger impact.