Speculation: My Own Thoughts for Now

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superpunk;1346206 said:
Can you honestly fault the secondary coach for the performance of the defense as a whole? For instance, he may have coached the heck out of that secondary, does that make it his fault that we couldn't generate a pass rush? That our LBs couldn't cover backs in the flats out of the backfield? Not IMO.

We saw the foolishness of equating a unit's performance to the qualifications of their position coach with Sparano. I would really like Bowles to be promoted. If there's anyone who understands the need for pressure at all costs, it's the guy whose unit has been suffering from that lack for years.
No, I honestly can't. They had to cover guys while the guys up front got little or no pressure. It just raises a red flag for me though.
 

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theogt;1346211 said:
Bowles wasn't making the same simple coverage calls over and over in games either.

The problem with Bowles isn't that he's performed or not, it's that we have no idea what he's capable of -- he's a complete unknown.
True, but that can be a good thing.
 

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But where would Bowles have learned all the ways to create said pressure and how to teach it?

By watching a Chargers defensive highlights reel?

If thats the case there'd be tons of great DC's in this world. ;)
 

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DipChit;1346223 said:
But where would Bowles have learned all the ways to create said pressure and how to teach it?

By watching a Chargers defensive highlights reel?

If thats the case there'd be tons of great DC's in this world. ;)

Maybe Cleveland. Or, maybe he's got his own ideas. I doubt Sparano just started watching tape of more aggressive offenses last year - no doubt it was stuff he'd been stewing around and trying tog et on the field.
 

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Taps-n-1;1346157 said:
The one glaring thing that troubles me here is Ellis being able to come back from the Achilles injury. A younger, and arguably better athlete in Kevin Smith couldn't. It's a tough, tough injury to rehab from apparently, and it won't surprise me at all if Ellis' career is done for all practical purposes.

Ellis might be done or might end up on the PUP to start the season, but the surgery for him might not be as bad as K.Smith because Ellis is a DE and the loss of pure speed might not effect him as much as a CB

also, Julian Peterson recently had this done and then went to the probowl

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superpunk;1346235 said:
Maybe Cleveland. Or, maybe he's got his own ideas. I doubt Sparano just started watching tape of more aggressive offenses last year - no doubt it was stuff he'd been stewing around and trying tog et on the field.

How do we really know thats all on Sparano though.

And how are you defining "aggressive"?
 

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dbair1967;1346286 said:
Ellis might be done or might end up on the PUP to start the season, but the surgery for him might not be as bad as K.Smith because Ellis is a DE and the loss of pure speed might not effect him as much as a CB

also, Julian Peterson recently had this done and then went to the probowl

David

I see, I didn't realize that about Peterson. Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed I guess.
 

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On the speculation ...

The delay in naming Norv seems un-Jerry-like, which leads me to speculate that Turner isn't going to be named.

It makes me wonder if Jerry has got his eyes on a Bears or Colts coach.

One of the nice aspects of Parcells timing is that although the Cowboys got a late start, they don't have quite as much pressure to make an immediate decision.

It isn't like their current candidates are likely to be scooped up by another club, given that the other available head coaching jobs have already been filled.
 

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ZeroClub;1346335 said:
On the speculation ...

The delay in naming Norv seems un-Jerry-like, which leads me to speculate that Turner isn't going to be named.

It makes me wonder if Jerry has got his eyes on a Bears or Colts coach.

One of the nice aspects of Parcells timing is that although the Cowboys got a late start, they don't have quite as much pressure to make an immediate decision.

It isn't like their current candidates are likely to be scooped up by another club, given that the other available head coaching jobs have already been filled.
I like this so much better than my speculation. I really like Rivera.
 

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ZeroClub;1346335 said:
On the speculation ...

The delay in naming Norv seems un-Jerry-like, which leads me to speculate that Turner isn't going to be named.

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remember Norv left last night to go back to SF, but is supposed to "talk" with Jerry today...its only 9 am where Norv is, so I'm not sure there really is any "delay"

David
 

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Hostile;1346365 said:
I like this so much better than my speculation. I really like Rivera.

I'm just wondering why nobody else is hiring Rivera...I have long liked the idea of bringing him here (go back to posts during the seasosn where I was complaining about Zimmer) but he's had a number of interviews now, and isnt getting offers...doesnt mean he is an awful candidate, but there might be somethign there

honestly, was Mike Tomlin anymore qualified than Rivera?

David
 

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I can't believe you're pimping a sub-zero .500 coach, when you couldn't stand the over .500 coach we already had
 

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I wouldn't put our decision to move back to the 4-3 on the Lions game alone. Look at who their OC is and how much he believes in protecting his qb.
 

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dbair1967;1346389 said:
I'm just wondering why nobody else is hiring Rivera...I have long liked the idea of bringing him here (go back to posts during the seasosn where I was complaining about Zimmer) but he's had a number of interviews now, and isnt getting offers...doesnt mean he is an awful candidate, but there might be somethign there

honestly, was Mike Tomlin anymore qualified than Rivera?

David

He hasn't been able to interview for the jobs.
 

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Yeagermeister;1346401 said:
He hasn't been able to interview for the jobs.

sure he did..the week the Bears were off...I think he interviewed with Pittsburgh and Arizona...I think he also interviewed with at least one team last yr too

David
 

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dbair1967;1346405 said:
sure he did..the week the Bears were off...I think he interviewed with Pittsburgh and Arizona...I think he also interviewed with at least one team last yr too

David

I thought no one could interview him because they were playing in the SB? :confused:
 

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Yeagermeister;1346432 said:
I thought no one could interview him because they were playing in the SB? :confused:

Yea, I thought you couldn't interview a coach/staff member until their team had completely finished their season?
 

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you can interview the week before the Super Bowl, if your team is participating in it, but that week only
 

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dbair1967;1346389 said:
I'm just wondering why nobody else is hiring Rivera...I have long liked the idea of bringing him here (go back to posts during the seasosn where I was complaining about Zimmer) but he's had a number of interviews now, and isnt getting offers...doesnt mean he is an awful candidate, but there might be somethign there

honestly, was Mike Tomlin anymore qualified than Rivera?

David

I believe I read that the Steelers offered Tomlin the job in the 4th quarter of the NFC championship game, only once it was clear that the Bears were going to win.
 

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Taps-n-1;1346499 said:
Yea, I thought you couldn't interview a coach/staff member until their team had completely finished their season?

playoff teams that arnt playing in the 1st rd can allow their assistants to interview during that off week...after that, you cant talk to them anymore until after their teams season is complete...it was some sort of compromise they started within the last yr or two

David
 
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