Speed of Turpin and Cooks

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Remember when Turpin was not involved or schemed into the Kellen Moore offense at all ?

Not even spot play or small role in the Kellen Moore pass game whatsoever.
Turpin was seen as strictly a special teams guy by Moore.


Now under Big mac in the Tex Coast offense, a full offseason and camp ...and most of all a serious commitment
to involve/scheme Turpin into the offense - and now his burst and speed is very well felt.

- Ironically Cooks was phased out and non-involved by the Big Mac himself - even though the club
made more than one attempt to trade for the speedy Cooks. - once during the season,.
and finally a completed trade in the offseason.

- As one of the fastest WRs in the NFL, Cooks can flat our fly and run by virtually any CB in the NFL.
and he has keen run skills that we could exploit on jet sweeps and bubble screens.. if we dared.

- First half of the season Mac flat ignored Cooks, until the media brought some serious heat
to Mr. " I don't do Fantasy Football" to the criticism of Cooks' non-involvement.
But thankfully Mac was sensitive and accommodating to adjust and commit Cooks to the offense.

- Cooks should " feast" on the single coverages that Lamb's double coverages and blanket draws.
I only imagine if Cooks was well schemed in games such as Niners and Philly

I think we should running more fly and go routes over the top of opposing defenses becuz of explosive speed
both Cooks and Turpin ...
 

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It’s amazing to see the difference when the Cowboys actually throw the ball downfield.

In my opinion, they’ve been doing some testing against some of these lesser teams on the schedule.

I just hope they stay as aggressive in the tougher matchups.
 

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The most stressful WR to cover is one who eats up your cushion in like 3 to 4 steps. Cooks n Turpin are even with DBs so quick they have to guess and if they guess wrong like on Cooks TD, light up the scoreboard.

Last year, Dallas Offense didn't have the speed element it does now, so this Offense has the ability to win big games if Dak is on.
 

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He’s made the most of the reps he’s got. He just needs more reps lol
as much as I wanna agree with you I'd say he's getting just what he needs I mean we said that about Tony powered around here and the more carries we gave him the less explosive he became and you're setting him up to get injured that's a small dude we're talking about here... I think they're using him just as he should be almost like a change of pace weapon like you would use Tony Pollard back when he was way more explosive when he was used less...
 

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Remember when Turpin was not involved or schemed into the Kellen Moore offense at all ?

Not even spot play or small role in the Kellen Moore pass game whatsoever.
Turpin was seen as strictly a special teams guy by Moore.


Now under Big mac in the Tex Coast offense, a full offseason and camp ...and most of all a serious commitment
to involve/scheme Turpin into the offense - and now his burst and speed is very well felt.

- Ironically Cooks was phased out and non-involved by the Big Mac himself - even though the club
made more than one attempt to trade for the speedy Cooks. - once during the season,.
and finally a completed trade in the offseason.

- As one of the fastest WRs in the NFL, Cooks can flat our fly and run by virtually any CB in the NFL.
and he has keen run skills that we could exploit on jet sweeps and bubble screens.. if we dared.

- First half of the season Mac flat ignored Cooks, until the media brought some serious heat
to Mr. " I don't do Fantasy Football" to the criticism of Cooks' non-involvement.
But thankfully Mac was sensitive and accommodating to adjust and commit Cooks to the offense.

- Cooks should " feast" on the single coverages that Lamb's double coverages and blanket draws.
I only imagine if Cooks was well schemed in games such as Niners and Philly

I think we should running more fly and go routes over the top of opposing defenses becuz of explosive speed
both Cooks and Turpin ...
Was much as I'd like to rip on Kellen Moore maybe kevonte Turpin didn't know the offense yet and maybe he wasn't ready...its possible that its just now the perfect time to use KT more.
 

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It’s amazing to see the difference when the Cowboys actually throw the ball downfield.

In my opinion, they’ve been doing some testing against some of these lesser teams on the schedule.

I just hope they stay as aggressive in the tougher matchups.
I agree they use these big leaves as they should like a scrimmage a live defense that doesn't know what's coming and the practice plays even the dreaded Wildcat I hated it but I think they're gonna use this Wildcat formation but then do something else off it later just the things that might McCarthy does at Kellen Moore never did I think they're using the time on the field to run plays they normally wouldn't run or have the opportunity to run... It's way better than practice...
 

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The offense has evolved. Stay aggressive down the stretch.
Yeah we can't afford to try to keep games close a lot of this NFL parity is the fact that it only takes a field goal to win most of these games... Especially the fact it seems like we're getting more penalties and we're not getting any help down the stretch trying to close close games we're not getting any bounces and having any luck go our way we're gonna have to be aggressive to make our own luck....
 

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Turpin didn't light up Big 12 defenses. NFL teams had 3 years to bring him in after he finished at TCU and didn't. Dallas finally gave him a chance and grabbed him last year. He is developing at one of the positions it takes a few years to master. Realistically, he is probably at his ceiling as an NFL WR. He is a 4th/5th WR on the squad and probably even lower as an actual receiving option when you account for the tight ends and running backs.
 

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Turpin didn't light up Big 12 defenses. NFL teams had 3 years to bring him in after he finished at TCU and didn't. Dallas finally gave him a chance and grabbed him last year. He is developing at one of the positions it takes a few years to master. Realistically, he is probably at his ceiling as an NFL WR. He is a 4th/5th WR on the squad and probably even lower as an actual receiving option when you account for the tight ends and running backs.
I am never one to blame players because their college coaches are stupid. Go look up Alvin Kamara's college stats. Or even Tony Pollard. Or Terrell Owens.. How about Miles Austin at griggin Monmouth, NJ. The list of guys who never stood out much in college but blossomed in the pros is very long.

Still Turpin had 13 receiving TDs and 2 rushing TDs on less than 200 touches from scrimmage. Throw in 6 return TDs and he sure as hell was lighting up somebody! I think the best is yet to come from him because you simply cannot coach 4.2 speed that can actually catch the ball. We've seen plenty of these really fast guys who were 50/50 to actually catch the ball but to have a guy like Turpin who has that speed AND good hands AND is tough as nails as we've seen bodes well for the future of these offense.
 

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I am never one to blame players because their college coaches are stupid. Go look up Alvin Kamara's college stats. Or even Tony Pollard. Or Terrell Owens.. How about Miles Austin at griggin Monmouth, NJ. The list of guys who never stood out much in college but blossomed in the pros is very long.

Still Turpin had 13 receiving TDs and 2 rushing TDs on less than 200 touches from scrimmage. Throw in 6 return TDs and he sure as hell was lighting up somebody! I think the best is yet to come from him because you simply cannot coach 4.2 speed that can actually catch the ball. We've seen plenty of these really fast guys who were 50/50 to actually catch the ball but to have a guy like Turpin who has that speed AND good hands AND is tough as nails as we've seen bodes well for the future of these offense.
Watching the punt returners for both Buffalo and Philadelphia last night made me appreciate even more Turp. Those dudes looked slow as hell compared to him!
 

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I am never one to blame players because their college coaches are stupid. Go look up Alvin Kamara's college stats. Or even Tony Pollard. Or Terrell Owens.. How about Miles Austin at griggin Monmouth, NJ. The list of guys who never stood out much in college but blossomed in the pros is very long.

Still Turpin had 13 receiving TDs and 2 rushing TDs on less than 200 touches from scrimmage. Throw in 6 return TDs and he sure as hell was lighting up somebody! I think the best is yet to come from him because you simply cannot coach 4.2 speed that can actually catch the ball. We've seen plenty of these really fast guys who were 50/50 to actually catch the ball but to have a guy like Turpin who has that speed AND good hands AND is tough as nails as we've seen bodes well for the future of these offense.
Of course there are guys out there that did little in college and then became a force in the NFL. Did any of those guys you listed have to wait 3 years after college before getting a chance to be a part of an NFL team? Also, other than Kamara, it took a while for them to develop. It seems as if there is no patience to let Turpin develop.

I hope he becomes a bigger part of the offense and kicks butt. I just don't have high expectations based upon his journey to get here. At least not yet. I'm also not critical of the coaching staff on how he has been utilized up to this point. He was not a plug-and-play guy. He needed and probably still needs time to develop. Miles Austin didn't really do anything until his 4th season in Dallas. Turpin contributes greatly as a return specialist. Anything he contributes as a wide receiver is just a bonus. I doubt he does much else as a WR, but I welcome it.
 

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Of course there are guys out there that did little in college and then became a force in the NFL. Did any of those guys you listed have to wait 3 years after college before getting a chance to be a part of an NFL team? Also, other than Kamara, it took a while for them to develop. It seems as if there is no patience to let Turpin develop.

I hope he becomes a bigger part of the offense and kicks butt. I just don't have high expectations based upon his journey to get here. At least not yet. I'm also not critical of the coaching staff on how he has been utilized up to this point. He was not a plug-and-play guy. He needed and probably still needs time to develop. Miles Austin didn't really do anything until his 4th season in Dallas. Turpin contributes greatly as a return specialist. Anything he contributes as a wide receiver is just a bonus. I doubt he does much else as a WR, but I welcome it.
Turpin got caught up in me-too-ism after being dismissed from the team at TCU and then even charged in what turned out to be a pretty bogus domestic violence situation if I recall correctly. If not for that hanging over his head I firmly believe he would have been drafted and gotten a shot much sooner. NFL teams very seldom thumb their noses at 4.2 guys. He just had to wait for all of that to die down AND he had to show out in the USFL before a team would give him an opportunity.
 

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Turpin didn't light up Big 12 defenses. NFL teams had 3 years to bring him in after he finished at TCU and didn't. Dallas finally gave him a chance and grabbed him last year. He is developing at one of the positions it takes a few years to master. Realistically, he is probably at his ceiling as an NFL WR. He is a 4th/5th WR on the squad and probably even lower as an actual receiving option when you account for the tight ends and running backs.
he had a really good College career that ended with off the field bad... he was never a #1 but was a huge weapon for TCU on some really good teams. He missed the draft because of some legal stuff and had to go the sub pro route....
 

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Turpin got caught up in me-too-ism after being dismissed from the team at TCU and then even charged in what turned out to be a pretty bogus domestic violence situation if I recall correctly. If not for that hanging over his head I firmly believe he would have been drafted and gotten a shot much sooner. NFL teams very seldom thumb their noses at 4.2 guys. He just had to wait for all of that to die down AND he had to show out in the USFL before a team would give him an opportunity.
pretty much this, his freshman year he tore up the big 12 on a team that should've got in the playoff...
 

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I am never one to blame players because their college coaches are stupid. Go look up Alvin Kamara's college stats. Or even Tony Pollard. Or Terrell Owens.. How about Miles Austin at griggin Monmouth, NJ. The list of guys who never stood out much in college but blossomed in the pros is very long.

Still Turpin had 13 receiving TDs and 2 rushing TDs on less than 200 touches from scrimmage. Throw in 6 return TDs and he sure as hell was lighting up somebody! I think the best is yet to come from him because you simply cannot coach 4.2 speed that can actually catch the ball. We've seen plenty of these really fast guys who were 50/50 to actually catch the ball but to have a guy like Turpin who has that speed AND good hands AND is tough as nails as we've seen bodes well for the future of these offense.
In my opinion even though they're slightly different sizes that guy over there I'm a Texas Longhorn team named Xavier Worthy, if kevonte Turpin would have got on a team and used like Xavier worthy he probably could have had a much better college career they play very similar.. I realized turpin's a little smaller but they both do the same things on the field they remind me of each other the good with the bad sometimes that you're worthy drives me crazy with his drops or his bobbles but he's electric so you kind of let it go...
 
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