Sporting News: 7 Reasons We Like Giants to Win Super Bowl 44

[BourbonBalz]

It comes as no surprise that the Giant's strengths are their offensive and defensive lines, especially the D line. However, their secondary is average and their receiving corp is below average. I'd take our secondary any day over the Giant's. I know we're young there, but that's why I'd take them. We have young AND talented DBs with lots of speed, which is something we've been lacking. I think our defense will be absolutely lights out this year. The key to our season will be how well our O line plays and whether they can stay healthy. If we get good O line play, we will win the East and yes, I'm guaranteeing it.

 

[BBWC]

Eli Manning rode his defensive line through the playoffs and they carried him to the Super Bowl championship. He played mistake free football for the most part, I'll give you that. But he's hardly "championship caliber" and your D-line is the reason you won that game, not Manning. They deserve the Super Bowl MVP.

If Brady hadn't been pressured like he was in that game you're looking at a 30something-17 defeat instead of that win.

I find the fact that you think Corey Webster a shutdown corner laughable, considering how many times a Lost-a-step TO burned him the last three years. I don't think you have one of the best young secondaries in the league. In fact, your front seven is what makes your defense. Your secondary and receiving corps are the weakest units of your team, quite possibly the weakest of the division.

I agree with about half of your points, mostly the stuff about your d-line (althought Osi does need to learn to play the run better, as does Tuck.) But please, stay realistic when you try to hype up your team on a Dallas board. You might get a little more respect if you don't glamorize and exaggerate your team's actual talent level.

Fine if you're a homer. I respect homers. I am one. I don't blame anyone for being a die hard fan of their team. But do that on your own board. Not here. If you plan on being here please be realistic.

Eli Manning has proven himself time and time again, the defensive line didn't carry him to score two TD's in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl, the last of which came in the final seconds. You can try and explain it all away, if the Giants didn't sack Brady so much, if Asante catches that ball, if Tyree drops the miracle pass... the fact is it all happened, it was a team effort, and Eli was a big part of it.

Eli wasn't in the stands watching during the playoffs, he was actively contributing, making crucial drives and plays in all 4 games. Bury your head in the sand if you like, but Eli is absolutely championship caliber as is the rest of the team.

Corey Webster surrendered a single TD last year, just one. It came in week nine against TO, that was it. He led all CB's with a 3.92 YPA, and a 65.15 forced incompletion pct. on 66 attempts last year. If that's not a shutdown corner what is? Our secondary is not the weakest unit on our defense, not by a long shot. That honor belongs to our LB'ers.

 

[BBWC]

How do you feel about the Giants record (1-4) against Romo?

Do you really feel the Giants match up well against the Cowboys?

If feel pretty good about the match up, outside of the Commanders, I think the division is a three team race where any of the teams can beat each other on any given day. I think we did a job of getting to Romo our last meeting, and got lots of clean shots at him. The game was close going into the 4th quarter we wore down defensively and Choice made the Giants pay.

We lost McKenzie and Seubert during the game, and I think that had a huge effect on why Eli almost got killed. There has been a ton of personnel turnover since that game, and who knows what both teams will look like when they meet this year. But yeah, I like the match up.

 

[CowboyMike]

Eli Manning has proven himself time and time again, the defensive line didn't carry him to score two TD's in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl, the last of which came in the final seconds. You can try and explain it all away, if the Giants didn't sack Brady so much, if Asante catches that ball, if Tyree drops the miracle pass... the fact is it all happened, it was a team effort, and Eli was a big part of it.

Eli wasn't in the stands watching during the playoffs, he was actively contributing, making crucial drives and plays in all 4 games. Bury your head in the sand if you like, but Eli is absolutely championship caliber as is the rest of the team.

I didn't say he didn't do anything. Please read in more detail. I said "He played mistake free football for the most part, I'll give you that."

That in itself is respectable. Eli got hot during those playoffs. It happens. But 'hot' is a relative term. In his case, it simply meant he played efficient mistake free football, but he wasn't spectacular. Frankly, he stopped pulling his usual boneheaded plays he was known for.

But did he play championship caliber football? No. Has he ever? No. I would not rate Eli championship caliber.

He started pulling "Eli's" again last year anyway, especially after he lost Plax.

Sorry, but you're losing your credibility with me by calling your entire team 'championship caliber'.

 

[BBWC]

I didn't say he didn't do anything. Please read in more detail. I said "He played mistake free football for the most part, I'll give you that."

That in itself is respectable. Eli got hot during those playoffs. It happens. But 'hot' is a relative term. In his case, it simply meant he played efficient mistake free football, but he wasn't spectacular. Frankly, he stopped pulling his usual boneheaded plays he was known for.

But did he play championship caliber football? No. Has he ever? No. I would not rate Eli championship caliber.

He started pulling "Eli's" again last year anyway, especially after he lost Plax.

Sorry, but you're losing your credibility with me by calling your entire team 'championship caliber'.

This championship caliber thing is ridiculously subjective, and you keep moving the goal posts to boot. What the hell does championship caliber mean to you anyway? Is Ben Roethlisberger championship caliber? He won his first Super Bowl ring despite the fact that he posted the worst statistical game for a Super Bowl winning QB in history, should that be held as a strike against his second? Of course we have to factor in what he did against Denver to get the Steelers to the the SB in the first place.

To me you're a championship caliber QB if you (obviously) win a championship and at some point along the ride do more than just sight see, think Trent Dilfer. All the rest is just subjective nonsense. And Eli is coming off of his best statistical season, debunking the myth of this 4 game hot streak.

 

[Stash]

I see a team that lost 3 of its' last 4 games without Burress.


Manning threw for 2,319 yards and 18 touchdowns in the first 11 games. He averaged 211 passing yards and 1.6 touchdowns while compiling five games of multiple passing scores, including three three-touchdown performances.
When Burress missed the next five games, Manning threw for just 919 yards and three touchdowns. He averaged 184 passing yards and just 0.6 touchdowns per game without Burress. In fact, he passed for fewer than 200 yards in four of those last five contests and didn't record multiple scores during that time.

The Giants' running game is top-notch and will again be a challenge to deal with, but their passing game doesn't look too potent.

 

[sonnyboy]

If feel pretty good about the match up, outside of the Commanders, I think the division is a three team race where any of the teams can beat each other on any given day. I think we did a job of getting to Romo our last meeting, and got lots of clean shots at him. The game was close going into the 4th quarter we wore down defensively and Choice made the Giants pay.

We lost McKenzie and Seubert during the game, and I think that had a huge effect on why Eli almost got killed. There has been a ton of personnel turnover since that game, and who knows what both teams will look like when they meet this year. But yeah, I like the match up.

Good post. I agree its a 3 team race and can't see how anyone can say they'd be surprised to see anyone of the three take the east.

I favor the Cowboys for two reasons and one might not make a lot of sense, it's just a feeling I've had in recent years.

Number one reason is QB. Romo is better than Manning and McNabb. The numbers and play on the field has proven this out these past three years. Manning has the ring and McNabb has the experience and postseason wins. And any national pundit will rank Manning and McNabb ahead of Romo because of the their teams success. But Romo has had more of an impact and done more to help his team than those two.

Defensive Coaching. This is why I was hoping we'd keep Wade as HC for one more year. I've always felt defensive success was more about coaching and scheme and offensive success more about execution and QB play.
In todays game offenses have an inherent advantage over defenses. Defenses can no longer hit and can hardly touch receivers. In addition to that, O-Lineman can hold on just about every pass play.

The only way a defense can generate enough pass rush and effectively cover receivers and stop and opponenets passing game is with superior scheming/strategy.
I could go on and on for pages, but I'll leave it my opinion that coaching has more to do with a defenses success.

The Giants and Eagles have probably both lost their ace Defensive coordinators. The Cowboys still have Wade.

 

[Rampage]

bbwc, do you really think Eli should have won the superbowl mvp?