Staggering D. Lawrence stat

[Zordon]

The fact anybody thinks this tells the whole story of how someone is playing is a problem.

DLaw has 11 tackles 1 tackle for loss and leads the team in QB hurries/pressures. He's not been disruptive or good enough but he's stilt he best SDE they have by a wide margin.

Taco basically made 2 plays all season.

I realize the graphic lacks nuance, but in what world is it acceptable for Taco to have more sacks than D-Law over the last 16 games? 8 sacks vs. 2.5 sacks.

Taco also has more QB Hits over the last 16 games than D-Law.

Over the last 16 games:

D-Law: 2.5 sacks, 10 qb hits, 1 forced fumble,
Taco: 8 sacks, 11 qb hits, 3 forced fumbles

No amount of run-stopping ability can spin this ugliness. We didn't pay D-Law to stop the run, we paid him to disrupt the backfield, hit the quarterback, destroy drives with back-breaking sacks, create game-changing turnovers.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

"F all, you'all"! That's his attitude...no worries from him, he got that "bag o cash".

He's frustrated and pixxed coz he knows what's being said is probably true........the social media meltdown doesn't bother me.

 

[Hoofbite]

I get it, but it's not like anyone could thrive with this secondary.

Even a monster who registered 2 sacks per week is only stopping 2 plays. There are 60 other plays where the secondary has to cover and this group cannot. Diggs is by far the best, and everyone else should be collecting unemployment.

 

[DandyDon52]

In his last 11 games dating back to the 2019 season, DeMarcus Lawrence has ONLY 1/2 sack.....and in his last 20 games dating back to the start of the 2019 season Lawrence has ONLY 5.5 sacks.

In those 11 games Dallas has a record of 3 wins and 8 losses.


That is one hell of a dry spell and one hell of a bad correlation between sacks and wins.

Sacks are a silly stat, and without details are meaningless.
For example a guy tackled a qb 5 inches behind los as qb was running with ball, and they said it went down as a sack!!
A sack is just a tackle of the qb, anywhere behind the los. And at any time in game.
So If a guy gets several 5 inch to 3 yd sacks when qb is actually running, does that really affect the game?? no it doesnt.
If a guy gets a sack in 4th quarter of game his team is behind 31-0 does that really affect the game?? no, it is meaningless.
But at end of year people look at his sack total, and go wow look at all these sacks! and they visualize 15 yd loss sacks, at
key point of game where other team is driving for the winning score lol.
But they may all be duds, and guess what ? no one cares or even looks at details of each sack. I dont think anyone keeps the details
on sacks, just the numbers.
That makes it a really flawed and meaningless stat.
Lawrence hustled last year and played good on run and pass, but this year, new idiot dc, trying to run a 3-4 new scheme,
and they are all looking bad and like they know his scheme isnt going to work, and are giving up.
Griffen was good in Minn just last year, but here he is crap? it is how he is being used, this is all on nolan, doing the round pegs
into square holes thing.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Sacks DO matter, and DLaw is under-performing.
But he IS leading the team in QB pressures, and that too is important.

We need more though

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm not saying it's fair or not but I have a feeling most fans single them out because 1. There the 2 high dollar contracts on the defensive side and 2. they're the only two on the defensive side that run their mouths about how they're "alpha" and "hot boys" and "were pro bowlers"

They basically set themselves up to be easy targets. If you want the accolades and money you got to be able to take some heat (which both of them can't )

And that's fine. They get the big bucks so they get the big criticism with it. But people are fooling themselves if they think those are at the only two players not contributing. Everson Griffen is another one who runs his mouth........Jourdan Lewis is another. Xavier Woods is another. But I guess because they don't get paid much they're allowed to run their mouths and underachieve.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes, the entire group has been awful without exception.

But Lawrence and Jaylon are getting singled out because they've been paid. Therefore, people expect more out of them. People may think it's unfair, but that's how it goes when you make the money they make without the corresponding production.

But I actually expect Lawrence to have a good game Sunday. He wants to prove his doubters wrong and the Giants o-line is beyond awful.

So even a 4 sack performance by him Sunday will not change my opinion.

I don't think pay should determine if you are criticized or not. It sure didn't stop people from criticizing Dak when he was the lowest paid on the team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

When you make much more money, the expectations are rightfully raised up as well. So when big money players play poorly and disappoint, it's twice as frustrating.

Understood. But no defense is just built around 2 guys. They deserve their blame for this. Hell Lawerence himself said they are playing soft. He knows it. Everyone with eyes knows it. But I don't care if you're a 6th round pick if you are out on that field and you are starting for this team then I expect for you to contribute like a starter should. I don't see ONE starter out there except maybe Aldon Smith. Some of these guys look like they should just be playing special teams.

 

[75boyz]

I realize the graphic lacks nuance, but in what world is it acceptable for Taco to have more sacks than D-Law over the last 16 games? 8 sacks vs. 2.5 sacks.

Taco also has more QB Hits over the last 16 games than D-Law.

Over the last 16 games:

D-Law: 2.5 sacks, 10 qb hits, 1 forced fumble,
Taco: 8 sacks, 11 qb hits, 3 forced fumbles

No amount of run-stopping ability can spin this ugliness. We didn't pay D-Law to stop the run, we paid him to disrupt the backfield, hit the quarterback, destroy drives with back-breaking sacks, create game-changing turnovers.

It's like the more empirical evidence you provide the more the apologists can not accept these simple truths.

So whether it's stats or game film you want to consider, the performance expectations of a 20 million per year defensive end are so far from being met that this exercise has become comical.

Keep up the good work.

Go Cowboys

 

[CowboyFrog]

Understood. But no defense is just built around 2 guys. They deserve their blame for this. Hell Lawerence himself said they are playing soft. He knows it. Everyone with eyes knows it. But I don't care if you're a 6th round pick if you are out on that field and you are starting for this team then I expect for you to contribute like a starter should. I don't see ONE starter out there except maybe Aldon Smith. Some of these guys look like they should just be playing special teams.

Correct and if one D-end is my only worry as an OC and I literally have a winning matchup any where I want on the field....well unless I'm Garrett your 1 DE will not be a factor that game because I can scheme him into obscurity

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Sacks are a silly stat, and without details are meaningless.
For example a guy tackled a qb 5 inches behind los as qb was running with ball, and they said it went down as a sack!!
A sack is just a tackle of the qb, anywhere behind the los. And at any time in game.
So If a guy gets several 5 inch to 3 yd sacks when qb is actually running, does that really affect the game?? no it doesnt.
If a guy gets a sack in 4th quarter of game his team is behind 31-0 does that really affect the game?? no, it is meaningless.
But at end of year people look at his sack total, and go wow look at all these sacks! and they visualize 15 yd loss sacks, at
key point of game where other team is driving for the winning score lol.
But they may all be duds, and guess what ? no one cares or even looks at details of each sack. I dont think anyone keeps the details
on sacks, just the numbers.
That makes it a really flawed and meaningless stat.
Lawrence hustled last year and played good on run and pass, but this year, new idiot dc, trying to run a 3-4 new scheme,
and they are all looking bad and like they know his scheme isnt going to work, and are giving up.
Griffen was good in Minn just last year, but here he is crap? it is how he is being used, this is all on nolan, doing the round pegs
into square holes thing.

this^ but I wouldn't call them silly stats though. They're critical and important but come close to telling the whole story of a player. Waay overblown by some/many fans as you pointed out. I remember when we draft DWare, Parcell said he wanted to develop him into a complete player, not just a sack guy. As he put, lots of players can get a few sacks a year which accounts for 10-20% of their playing time but what's he with the other 75-80% plays. He's right, Malik Collins got 5 sacks for us his rookie year and we basically never heard from him again.

 

[charron]

There's no way to spin this. It's unacceptable how he's playing. That was a substantial contract given to him to be a difference-maker, a LT type of impact on a game. From his postgame comments about "worrying about myself", he also doesn't seem to understand the leadership that's required when you're given that type of money.

Dlaw also has 45 tackles w/ 13TFL
Taco has 21 tackles w/ 6TFL


More proof that paying 1 player huge money is way less than paying 2-3 good players good money. It takes more than 1.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is so true but you're overlooking a critical name for Browns running success.......Bill Callahan. He's the Wade Phillip, Novr Turner, of OLines and running games. In other words, just when appears we may have fixed the passing issues from the first 3 games, we lined up against arguably the best OL/running game coach in the league.

What fans should really be crying over is the fact that every one of the identified "Gurus" named in your post have been with the Cowboys and every one of them have left the team after having had success after a short period of time.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

I don't think there is a team in the NFL that signs more guys to huge contracts that immediately "tank" the moment the ink dries on that contract.

Sometimes before the ink dries!

 

[robertfchew]

...I think Aldon gets back on track with 2 sacks, maybe 3. Dlaw just lost a step. Might be age, technique or just sheer will. Odd thing in all this, his game play was great when his shoulder was injured. Ironic isnt it?

he was never hurt it's always an excuse for the apologists. Figure out how to draft and you won't have to worry about these losers