Stanford, Cal, SMU join ACC

[DFWJC]

College Football expansion insanity continues.

SMU buys its way in by forfeiting an astounding 9 years of TV revenues to join the league
Stanford and Cal agreed to accept only 30% of revenue for 1st 7 years, 75% in 8th, 80% in 9th...

Desperate

Nothing says Atlantic Coast Conference like California and Texas


ACC needed 12 of 15 votes and only had 11 (UNC, Florida St, Clemson, NC Sate were holdouts).....but NC State finally flipped.

Will the Big 12 go ahead and take the final 2 Pac 12 teams (Oregon St and Wash St)?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

College football is getting crazy anymore

 

[gtb1943]

Tell me how California is near the Atlantic Coast?

 

[viman96]

The Conference names need to change.

 

[HeavyBarrel]

Dallas is closer to
Miami then Los Angeles but that doesn’t mean ACC makes sense, oh well…….

 

[jterrell]

SMU to ACC isn't bad at all IMO.
ACC teams can fly into Love field and bus 10 minutes to the SMU facilities.

But the Cali stuff is insane. An ACC team making the long trek for a road game to the West coast is going to be facing an insane gauntlet unless they can get a bye week before or after and that is hard to do in conference play.

Picture this:
UNC plays Boston College in Boston, flies out the next week to San Fran for Cal away, flies back home to take on FSU at home?
That is season altering stuff. If you don't lose a game that you shouldn't you still have the wear and tear and jet lag to fight through that limits you going forward.
Literal insanity where every loss costs you potentially millions of dollars in CFP money.

And this gives FSU, Clemson and UNC all the impetus they need to challenge the GoR legally with public opinion behind them.
This makes the league less successful.

ACC should have invited SMU and Tulane. Get into Texas and Louisiana with solid academic schools. Add some gulf coast to the ACC to protect your numbers.
In that scenario the teams at the top would have benefitted.

SMU has some challenges to overcome that will be tough. The land around SMU is worth billions so they can't just get a new stadium and they can't fill the one they have now.
I have no idea what Cal and Stanford are doing. They couldn't draw attendance versus Oregon but are now gonna travel all that way just to land Syracuse at home?

 

[DFWJC]

SMU will be fine stadium-wise.
They constructed the stadium with expansion in mind and can grow it to 45k on the in-place structure.

Their fickle alumni will come to games now that they are "P4"

 

[CowboysFilmStudy]

College Football expansion insanity continues.

SMU buys its way in by forfeiting an astounding 9 years of TV revenues to join the league
Stanford and Cal agreed to accept only 30% of revenue for 1st 7 years, 75% in 8th, 80% in 9th...

Desperate

Nothing says Atlantic Coast Conference like California and Texas


ACC needed 12 of 15 votes and only had 11 (UNC, Florida St, Clemson, NC Sate were holdouts).....but NC State finally flipped.

Will the Big 12 go ahead and take the final 2 Pac 12 teams (Oregon St and Wash St)?

College football has gotten so stupid. The conferences were put together by region, which makes sense. Now these teams are playing in 4 different time zones in one conference. Like most things, money has ruined what was once a great product.

 

[jterrell]

SMU will be fine stadium-wise.
They constructed the stadium with expansion in mind and can grow it to 45k on the in-place structure.

Their fickle alumni will come to games now that they are "P4"

At full growth that would be an insanely small P5 stadium. It would be in the bottom 20 even after max growth.
And beyond size, it is not nearly as nice as many Texas High School stadiums.
Lacks parking and amenities.

I watched Baker Mayfield in his first college game versus SMU at the stadium and was appalled by how the crowd was 50/50, how small the stadium was, how dated it was and how far I had to walk through residential neighborhoods to get into it.

Where SMU will be fine is financially. They charge students an arm and leg anyway so a couple hundred bucks per kid per semester to be in a P5 is nothing to them.

 

[jterrell]

College football has gotten so stupid. The conferences were put together by region, which makes sense. Now these teams are playing in 4 different time zones in one conference. Like most things, money has ruined what was once a great product.

It is all down to helmet schools wanting more than everyone else in every way.
They are powering all of this by working directly with TV executives.

Will USC and UT simply all in line now they joined the B1G/SEC? We shall see because they are very used to calling all the shots to the detriment of their leagues.

 

[CowboysFilmStudy]

It is all down to helmet schools wanting more than everyone else in every way.
They are powering all of this by working directly with TV executives.

Will USC and UT simply all in line now they joined the B1G/SEC? We shall see because they are very used to calling all the shots to the detriment of their leagues.

I’m a Sooner fan so I was glad at least to see OU and Texas leave at the same time. Their reign as conference champions every year though is coming to an end.

 

[jterrell]

I’m a Sooner fan so I was glad at least to see OU and Texas leave at the same time. Their reign as conference champions every year though is coming to an end.

OU will be the one most interesting to watch.
They were Big 8 to their core.
Now they are in the SouthEast with far fewer games in Texas.
Can they win enough in the SEC to truly recruit nationally?
OU seemed to risk a lot.
UT can win 6-8 yearly games in the SEC same as it did the Big 12.
But OU was stuck on a 10 win team for a long time.

Is 20M a year worth giving up yearly CFP birth?
I'd argue not but I am a big 12 leftover and part of the hateful 8.

 

[Whyjerry]

Money is ruining college football. Cal in the ACC yeah that makes sense. It’s all about the kids though. Never mind all the 3,000 mile flights coming. Idiots.

 

[jrumann59]

College Football expansion insanity continues.

SMU buys its way in by forfeiting an astounding 9 years of TV revenues to join the league
Stanford and Cal agreed to accept only 30% of revenue for 1st 7 years, 75% in 8th, 80% in 9th...

Desperate

Nothing says Atlantic Coast Conference like California and Texas


ACC needed 12 of 15 votes and only had 11 (UNC, Florida St, Clemson, NC Sate were holdouts).....but NC State finally flipped.

Will the Big 12 go ahead and take the final 2 Pac 12 teams (Oregon St and Wash St)?

Maybe change it to Airline Carrier Conference....

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Maybe change it to Airline Carrier Conference....

I can not remember if I posted this in one of the other threads.

When the rumors started swirling that the Big 12 was interested in the four corner schools.

Some of the media that covers that Pac said it would never happen and said bad things about the Big 12
A couple of them called it a truck stop conference or flyover country. Many Big 12 fans decided to use the truck Stop Conference as a fun name instead of a put down the pac guys tried to make it.

Tony Altimore and Canzano were the worst.

 

[jrumann59]

It is getting ridiculous, some one other than these conferences need to figure this out. Divide the country in 6-9 main Conferences. Northeast, South East, Mid South, Mid North, South West, Western, North West. then put subdivisions in each of those main conferences.

 

[jterrell]

It is getting ridiculous, some one other than these conferences need to figure this out. Divide the country in 6-9 main Conferences. Northeast, South East, Mid South, Mid North, South West, Western, North West. then put subdivisions in each of those main conferences.

It's never going to happen because these schools are run by businessmen.
All these guys care about is maximizing profit in a 3-5 year window.
Typical C-suite stuff.

And no one cares about locality anymore for broadcast purposes.
Can stream games to the entire world for the same cost you can to just the DFW area.

Fans wont push back. They are going to watch the top 25 match ups even when the top 25 is largely make believe the first few weeks of the season.
We are part of the problem.

 

[DFWJC]

I’m a Sooner fan so I was glad at least to see OU and Texas leave at the same time. Their reign as conference champions every year though is coming to an end.

Hey, especially since neither had won a conference title in the last 2 years anyway.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Colleges have no one to blame but themselves. For years, many were begging them to share revenues with athletes. This would have given them better control and guidance on the kids getting paid and they let the Supreme Court force their hand and now it's becoming a miniature/semi-pro league. Teams now can't survive w/o the umbrella of a mega conference, never mind traveling across the country a few games a year.

It's only going to get worse IMO coz Deion has provided a whole different template for building a college football team. Read some are calling on Congress to help regulate or bring some order but it may be too late that.

 

[viman96]

Commissioners and ADs chasing network money for big bonuses.