CFZ Stars align - Are we in All-In mode (2023- 2024)?

CowboyoWales

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I wonder if we're actually in a tentative ALL-IN mode.... and if not , why not.
I know lists are sometimes frowned upon, but here goes:

1) Best all-round roster we've had for a while, no glaring weaknesses.
2) Poor Conference, with only three serious contenders
3) Available CAP money $19m, $9m and $133m (2025)....with the ability to supplement 2024 with. Dak/Diggs/Martin/Dlaw restructures. CeeDee extension wont kick in until 2025.
4) 2024/2025 will require either a overhaul of virtually the whole O-Line (other than Tyler) + the Dak question. In an All-In, extend the decent (Biadasz/Steele), and prorate the bonus into 2025 and beyond.
5) Jerry's age and philosophy of always contending showed last year it get's only so far, the lottery ticket (no DT run defense, limited CB corp, and woeful WR room) can only get you so far.
6) Im not saying the sky's falling in with any Dak extension, but being realistic it's going (along with CeeDee, Diggs and Micah's deals) to effect the TIER 2 supporting cast.
7) So many fans looked in envy at the Rams..... and before any trades, big money FA signings we have a much better all-round squad than they started with (and less competition).....why are we looking at the future when the opportunities are staring us in the face (well at least for the next two years).
 

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Why the heck should Dallas go ALL-IN mode when we lack the 3 most essential ingredients?!
  • We don't have a top 8 QB.
  • We don't have a top 20 head coach.
  • We aren't one of the league's anointed teams
Fans need to embrace this formula: Enjoy the season and the 5% chance of winning it all if we even get to the playoffs.

As for having "available cap" dream on!
Steele, Biadasz are looming free agents. Kearse and Hooker need extensions. Micah's contract looms. Lamb's salary cap hit jumps by $15 mil next year, and he isn't locked up long term. Cooks cap hit jumps 40% next season. Gilmore will need to be extended or replaced. Same with Pollard.

Envy the Rams? I pity them. You think those fans were happy last year, merely because of the previous championship? NO THEY WEREN'T. And they are on a slow camel waltz right into the desert.

If you folks can't enjoy back-to-back 12-5 seasons...you might as well check out now.
 

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The biggest question I have is the offense. We are leaving a zone system for a run conducive system. In years past I hated zone blocking, but with defenses showing multiple fronts and confusing blitz packages I'm hoping we'll handle things. We all know our QB needs time or bad things happen.
If we're well prepared and disciplined we are unstoppable.
The defense will lead the league in take aways so we're good there.
 

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If you folks can't enjoy back-to-back 12-5 seasons...you might as well check out now.
So start with, what are we trying to achieve and work backwards.... I think 27 years of rinse and repeat, based on a strategy of 'hope we're good enough' is getting boring and those 12-5 seasons are getting the fan base more frustrated when it doesnt translate.
 

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As for having "available cap" dream on!
Steele, Biadasz are looming free agents. Kearse and Hooker need extensions. Micah's contract looms. Lamb's salary cap hit jumps by $15 mil next year, and he isn't locked up long term. Cooks cap hit jumps 40% next season. Gilmore will need to be extended or replaced. Same with Pollard.
Steele and Biadasz (and Pollard) can be extended and prorated. Kearse and Hooker wont take much to extend even if we want to and we have Israel to step up (as with Bland). Lamb's $17m and Cooks money is already accounted for in 2024 figures.

Plenty of contract money to restructure into 2025.

If Jerry does want a last SB, he's not going to get a better chance/roster than he has now.
 

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Steele and Biadasz (and Pollard) can be extended and prorated. Kearse and Hooker wont take much to extend even if we want to and we have Israel to step up (as with Bland). Lamb's $17m and Cooks money is already accounted for in 2024 figures.

Plenty of contract money to restructure into 2025.

If Jerry does want a last SB, he's not going to get a better chance/roster than he has now.
All true, but JG liked stacking wins, but the jones boys like stacking gold ! That is their main goal and interest, the football is just what they
do for fun. They like to play gm, and who knows they may get lucky someday.
This season so far is about as all in that jerry is going to go.

The nfc appears very weak, but who knows , some other teams might rise up, I think detroit might.
 

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All true, but JG liked stacking wins, but the jones boys like stacking gold ! That is their main goal and interest, the football is just what they
do for fun. They like to play gm, and who knows they may get lucky someday.
This season so far is about as all in that jerry is going to go.

The nfc appears very weak, but who knows , some other teams might rise up, I think detroit might.
Oh yea, but thinking IF (big if) Jerry want's another SB in his cognitive dotage, this may well be the opportunity, as you say the Conference cant be this weak for much longer and our roster is pretty stacked (which conceivably we can hold onto through 2024). I always think a team's are only as good as it's weaknesses, and with Mazi(Hankins), Cooks, Gilmore we have seriously addressed those major concerns.
 

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Steele and Biadasz (and Pollard) can be extended and prorated. Kearse and Hooker wont take much to extend even if we want to and we have Israel to step up (as with Bland). Lamb's $17m and Cooks money is already accounted for in 2024 figures.
I notice you happily minimize and trivialize the big upcoming decisions...

AND IGNORE the elephant in the room...the Parsons contract, which will be top 3, perhaps #1 biggest defensive contract.

If fools listened to your advice we would be saying goodbye to Micah Parsons, and we would have nothing to show for it...because again... BigMike/Dak absolutely aren't winning SuperBowls.

Indeed, with Big Mike taking more of the helm of the offense it's probable that this team will be in descent, not ascent.
 

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I notice you happily minimize and trivialize the big upcoming decisions...

AND IGNORE the elephant in the room...the Parsons contract, which will be top 3, perhaps #1 biggest defensive contract.

If fools listened to your advice we would be saying goodbye to Micah Parsons, and we would have nothing to show for it...because again BigMike/Dak absolutely aren't winning SuperBowls.
Parson's not a FA until 2026 and even then you can Franchise him, or as we always do signing bonus/prorate the contract, (Overthecap has the the CAP at $80m higher than in 2023).

The problem with your argument is that if you constantly worry about the future you forget about the present.
 

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Parson's not a FA until 2026 and even then you can Franchise him, or as we always do signing bonus/prorate the contract, (Overthecap has the the CAP at $80m higher than in 2023).

The problem with your argument is that if you constantly worry about the future you forget about the present.
You keep ignoring or trying to brush away Elephants with a hand broom. TALK TO MY POINTS

-Elite free agents must be secured in advance...or you lose them. Parsons is elite amongst elite.
-Dak isn't top 8. You yourself have expressed such contempt where I don't think you place him in the top 12.
-You are terrified to talk honestly about the Cowboys Head Coach.

Teams don't win Super Bowls with middling QBs and bottom-barrel Head Coaches.
 

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You keep ignoring or trying to brush away Elephants with a hand broom. TALK TO MY POINTS

-Elite free agents must be secured in advance...or you lose them. Parsons is elite amongst elite.
-Dak isn't top 8. You yourself have expressed such contempt where I don't think you place him in the top 12.
-You are terrified to talk honestly about the Cowboys Head Coach.

Teams don't win Super Bowls with middling QBs and bottom-barrel Head Coaches.
1) Sign Parson's (2025) and you backdate the CAP hit with signing bonus and spread it prorated.
2) Doesnt matter where you rank Dak.
3) Didnt that Head Coach just win two 12 seasons (with Kellen Moore)?
4) Teams do win SB with lesser QB's....Stafford, Foles and nearly Hurts are all examples. Dak's perfectly capable of winning a SB, but the gameplan needs to suit him.
 

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No imo. All in would have been getting dalvin cook and hops in here. I do think we are positioning ourselves nicely, especially if we hit on some picks this year
 

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1) Sign Parson's (2025) and you backdate the CAP hit with signing bonus and spread it prorated.
2) Doesnt matter where you rank Dak.
3) Didnt that Head Coach just win two 12 seasons (with Kellen Moore)?
4) Teams do win SB with lesser QB's....Stafford, Foles and nearly Hurts are all examples. Dak's perfectly capable of winning a SB, but the gameplan needs to suit him.
I'll give you a 'like' for your effort, though your posts and follow-ups are so overwrought, ill-informed, and misguided...I just chuckle.

Let's suppose some fülls agree with you. You are GM for a day...you get to splurge...on July 30, 2023.

Specifically...and I demand specifics...what do you want the team to go all-in for? What players...at what price?
 

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No imo. All in would have been getting dalvin cook and hops in here. I do think we are positioning ourselves nicely, especially if we hit on some picks this year
@T-RO For my sins i'm a Mets fan....when we were poor we tried, one year, to put a decent enough team on the field (but with holes), but have sufficient cash reserves to plug whichever hole became the most glaring in season (we got to our only WS that year), this could be similar to the Cowboy's approach this year.
The running game is improved by: not having Moore at the helm (and improved through blocking) and our WR room should improve by adding speed and a system that helps by QB and YAC.
As we did last year, keep something back for those in season necessity trades/moves: Hankins, Peters, Barr.
 

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This keeps getting deeper and deeper in comedy.

CowboyoWales...To evaluate your posts we absolutely will need an update on your ranking of Dak Prescott.

8th best?
15th?
22nd?

Your thread is absolutely hollow without it.
 

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I do trust you've accounted for the upcoming Prescott 2024 cap hit of $62 mil in your spreadsheet.

What, you've got no spreadsheet? No spreadsheet and zero clue.
 

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This keeps getting deeper and deeper in comedy.

CowboyoWales...To evaluate your posts we absolutely will need an update on your ranking of Dak Prescott.

8th best?
15th?
22nd?

Your thread is absolutely hollow without it.
I'd say the deeper comedy is how far this fan base is fallen. To suggest we take delight in back to back 12-5 seasons shows how we've lowered the bar.
 

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This keeps getting deeper and deeper in comedy.

CowboyoWales...To evaluate your posts we absolutely will need an update on your ranking of Dak Prescott.

8th best?
15th?
22nd?

Your thread is absolutely hollow without it.
Argh, you're using the, lets derail a thread by using the Dak Hate/Love card. Nothing to do with Dak's rating, it's about how he plays on the field. Give him receivers, a better system and a team plan that keeps him doing what he does best and he's eminently capable of winning a SB, especially when he's got a near elite Defense on the other side of the ball.
 

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I do trust you've accounted for the upcoming Prescott 2024 cap hit of $62 mil in your spreadsheet.

What, you've got no spreadsheet? No spreadsheet and zero clue.
It's $59m, but yes it is along with CeeDee's $17m plus.
 
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