CFZ Stars align - Are we in All-In mode (2023- 2024)?

[T-RO]

Argh, you're using the, lets derail a thread by using the Dak Hate/Love card. Nothing to do with Dak's rating, it's about how he plays on the field. Give him receivers, a better system and a team plan that keeps him doing what he does best and he's eminently capable of winning a SB, especially when he's got a near elite Defense on the other side of the ball.

FAIL. Give us a ranking. And don't fumble the request, as you've fumbled this entire thread.

You want the Cowboys to trade the future for the all-important NOW. Who is the Quarterback now? Give us Dak's ranking!

You suggest the Cowboys sell their soul to win now and you have zero confidence in the quarterback we have now? You are a fraud if you can't answer the question!

 

[T-RO]

And this:
Still waiting for the trades or signings you want the Cowboys to make.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Look at some of our future cap hits.

Really those don't matter. A combination of A) the team actually getting that salary cap hit amount is zero and B) the salary cap is going up significantly each year.

 

[Loso86]

Why the heck should Dallas go ALL-IN mode when we lack the 3 most essential ingredients?!

• We don't have a top 8 QB.
• We don't have a top 20 head coach.
• We aren't one of the league's anointed teams

Fans need to embrace this formula: Enjoy the season and the 5% chance of winning it all if we even get to the playoffs.

As for having "available cap" dream on!
Steele, Biadasz are looming free agents. Kearse and Hooker need extensions. Micah's contract looms. Lamb's salary cap hit jumps by $15 mil next year, and he isn't locked up long term. Cooks cap hit jumps 40% next season. Gilmore will need to be extended or replaced. Same with Pollard.

Envy the Rams? I pity them. You think those fans were happy last year, merely because of the previous championship? NO THEY WEREN'T. And they are on a slow camel waltz right into the desert.

If you folks can't enjoy back-to-back 12-5 seasons...you might as well check out now.

What!? Lol

 

[big dog cowboy]

4) 2024/2025 will require either a overhaul of virtually the whole O-Line (other than Tyler)

Tyron will be gone. Martin might be. Replacements are there now. The rest will still be playing. The Cowboys have drafted 4 OL's the last 3 years and will likely continue to draft them knowing Dak needs protected.

 

[T-RO]

The microphone is CowboyoWales. It's his thread. He is due at the podium and here are his questions:

-What is Dak's ranking amongst his peers (1-32)? We await his answer. CW said the Super Bowl Window is open. Yet he's scorned Prescott at every turn. If he cannot trust Dak, or even rank Dak, this thread is a house of cards, as there is no open window w/out a high caliber QB. Why is he so afraid to give us his ranking?

-He wants us to splurge. For who? Who does he want to acquire via trade or free agency? So far: no answers.

-Where is his spreadsheet to account for additional stars? In the hand of an Elvish queen? A credit card tooth fairy?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why the heck should Dallas go ALL-IN mode when we lack the 3 most essential ingredients?!

• We don't have a top 8 QB.
• We don't have a top 20 head coach.
• We aren't one of the league's anointed teams

Fans need to embrace this formula: Enjoy the season and the 5% chance of winning it all if we even get to the playoffs.

As for having "available cap" dream on!
Steele, Biadasz are looming free agents. Kearse and Hooker need extensions. Micah's contract looms. Lamb's salary cap hit jumps by $15 mil next year, and he isn't locked up long term. Cooks cap hit jumps 40% next season. Gilmore will need to be extended or replaced. Same with Pollard.

Envy the Rams? I pity them. You think those fans were happy last year, merely because of the previous championship? NO THEY WEREN'T. And they are on a slow camel waltz right into the desert.

If you folks can't enjoy back-to-back 12-5 seasons...you might as well check out now.

So a top 8 QB is the cut off line for being all in?

 

[JayFord]

if these dudes gonna win a championship they can do it now

 

[beware_d-ware]

You know, it's not the strongest Cowboys roster I've ever seen. But this is a 10+ win unit with average injury luck, and the NFC looks like garbage this year. Philly and the Niners are excellent teams, but the dropoff is steep after that.

A WC spot should be easy for this team to get, and the division's not out of reach if Philly stumbles. From there? You're looking at a cupcake WC game, then a real matchup with one of the contenders.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

And this:
Still waiting for the trades or signings you want the Cowboys to make.

There's nobody worthwhile to sign at this point. Unless it's a rb....but no rush there. By the time Sept rolls around....might be able to get a Kareem Hunt or someone for super cheap

 

[Praxit]

..yep, its either this year or next. Every team has a window.

 

[Momanpr100]

Why the heck should Dallas go ALL-IN mode when we lack the 3 most essential ingredients?!

• We don't have a top 8 QB.
• We don't have a top 20 head coach.
• We aren't one of the league's anointed teams

Fans need to embrace this formula: Enjoy the season and the 5% chance of winning it all if we even get to the playoffs.

As for having "available cap" dream on!
Steele, Biadasz are looming free agents. Kearse and Hooker need extensions. Micah's contract looms. Lamb's salary cap hit jumps by $15 mil next year, and he isn't locked up long term. Cooks cap hit jumps 40% next season. Gilmore will need to be extended or replaced. Same with Pollard.

Envy the Rams? I pity them. You think those fans were happy last year, merely because of the previous championship? NO THEY WEREN'T. And they are on a slow camel waltz right into the desert.

If you folks can't enjoy back-to-back 12-5 seasons...you might as well check out now.

How the hell we win 12 games 2 years in a row if your first 2 points are true?

 

[T-RO]

How the hell we win 12 games 2 years in a row if your first 2 points are true?

We have good coordinators, DC, and OC...a good defense, and a QB that is around 10th in ranking.

 

[shabazz]

I wonder if we're actually in a tentative ALL-IN mode.... and if not , why not.
I know lists are sometimes frowned upon, but here goes:

1) Best all-round roster we've had for a while, no glaring weaknesses.
2) Poor Conference, with only three serious contenders
3) Available CAP money $19m, $9m and $133m (2025)....with the ability to supplement 2024 with. Dak/Diggs/Martin/Dlaw restructures. CeeDee extension wont kick in until 2025.
4) 2024/2025 will require either a overhaul of virtually the whole O-Line (other than Tyler) + the Dak question. In an All-In, extend the decent (Biadasz/Steele), and prorate the bonus into 2025 and beyond.
5) Jerry's age and philosophy of always contending showed last year it get's only so far, the lottery ticket (no DT run defense, limited CB corp, and woeful WR room) can only get you so far.
6) Im not saying the sky's falling in with any Dak extension, but being realistic it's going (along with CeeDee, Diggs and Micah's deals) to effect the TIER 2 supporting cast.
7) So many fans looked in envy at the Rams..... and before any trades, big money FA signings we have a much better all-round squad than they started with (and less competition).....why are we looking at the future when the opportunities are staring us in the face (well at least for the next two years).

One of the reasons for the “all in “philosophy has to be the historically weak NFC and I wholeheartedly believe in that, however the fact that we are among the youngest teams in the NFL gives us a good shot to keep this going for beyond just a 2 year window

If the FO can manage these salaries within the cap and retain Parsons we could remain highly competitive but hard choices, like the Zack Martin situation ,will have to be negotiated smartly

the bottom line is that when your conference only has 1 legitimate quarterback MVP candidate, the all in philosophy makes a ton of sense

 

[big dog cowboy]

the bottom line is that when your conference only has 1 legitimate quarterback MVP candidate, the all in philosophy makes a ton of sense

Amen!

 

[CCBoy]

Oh yea, but thinking IF (big if) Jerry want's another SB in his cognitive dotage, this may well be the opportunity, as you say the Conference cant be this weak for much longer and our roster is pretty stacked (which conceivably we can hold onto through 2024). I always think a team's are only as good as it's weaknesses, and with Mazi(Hankins), Cooks, Gilmore we have seriously addressed those major concerns.

At this point when a new fan comes along assumes ownership for paid for sacrifices. A road having to be trod along by ownership and his own team of evaluations. This along with carried traditions up front...c'mon now, if Jerry really wants to? That is fact now.

Doubt is up front and having to walk the road of the sport itself, chunked full of pot holes. One just doesn't place one's own doubts as excuse to put conditional respect on both the man's chosen sport and his proven sacrifices for the journey learned and journeyed through.

Jerry Jones has been a leading element in the forefront of the today's developed sport. That the man has earned.

If wishing to be a critic, then start applying around and become a valid critic placed in position to question the men on their metal.

Leave other fan's their sense of dignity and respect for the man who has given his all to the sport.

This team of Dallas Cowboys is here and now.

One can no longer buy success in the NFL. Don't place that burden upon the owner of your own team chosen because of directional past. Handle personal blame and respect according to what is shown by a man, but don't at the same time miss what is actually there and not just a statistic which almost all have been strong and top shelf.

Right now, the team analyzes top shelf.

Right now, team talent is top shelf.

Right now, leadership is premium and the team is in position to strongly take the journey fully prepared to challenge the very best!

Analysis is always necessary for direction and comparison...for here and now,

GO COWBOYS!

Cowboys, let's all see your metal and be honest about it as well. I respect the journey as a fan.

 

[CowboyoWales]

One of the reasons for the “all in “philosophy has to be the historically weak NFC and I wholeheartedly believe in that, however the fact that we are among the youngest teams in the NFL gives us a good shot to keep this going for beyond just a 2 year window

If the FO can manage these salaries within the cap and retain Parsons we could remain highly competitive but hard choices, like the Zack Martin situation ,will have to be negotiated smartly

the bottom line is that when your conference only has 1 legitimate quarterback MVP candidate, the all in philosophy makes a ton of sense

Yep, I certainly didnt mean we're in a Ram's like all chips and draft picks in, however, i'm wary that extending the corp (Dak, CeeDee, Diggs and Parsons), will have an effect on the Tier 2 talent .....me i'm one that thinks the weaknesses in a roster are as much a factor as the strengths (eg Mahomes' SB performance when he had 3 sub-par second string O-Line men). We are in a position to extend the Biadasz/Steele/Pollard's in the short term (with signing/prorated bonus), but they will soon become expensive in later years (where we'd have to consider cutting/trading).

On the other hand, we have sufficient CAP ($19M) to plug the in-season holes, dependent upon injuries and severe loss of form..... you can never account for everyone and predict where the injuries will occur.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

-Where is his spreadsheet to account for additional stars?

T-RO, not everyone has the time, energy, skill, etc. to produce spreadsheets like yourself. I will say I so enjoy the effort you put into them though. Your thread on Romo was a thing of beauty. The time that went into making it shows how far you're willing to go to prove your point.

I on the other hand prefer to be lazy and just give opinions.

Not a Dak fan, but in this QB-starved league I think he's about tenth. If all the stars align, we can win it all with him.

Where we really differ-

I believe Mike is a top five coach in this league. I will go even farther and say his first year here was his best yet. The flu, training camp, big swing and miss on his DC, losing his QB as well as many other players, he still won 6 games and kept the team together. I see players genuinely liking Mike and playing hard for him.

I'm prepared for your spreadsheet attack, but honestly I won't feel the need to debate. They are just the opinions of a man who likes the Cowboys and enjoy the entertainment they provide me.