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The Emperor;4192877 said:
Keeps you up at night to wallow in your chamber pot of maudlin posts.

The Stars, who you all owe to Minnesota for being too poor or stupid to keep a hockey team, Rangers, and Mavericks were sad sack losers when the Cowboys were racking up their championships.

Why don't you look at that side of the coin? Because it's too three dimensional for your two dimensional noodle? Or you know that and you're just trying to stir up trouble?

I'm guessing he's just trying to focus on the present.
 

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Hostile;4193755 said:
It wouldn't bother me if I were in his shoes. In the NFL you don't get any best of 7 series it is one and done. How many of those teams would have made it if it were one and done?

Wow. What a spin job in defense of the crap football we've seen here for a decade and a half.

Does this mean one of these last 16 Cowboys' teams would have won it all if they got to play best of 7s?

Best of 39s wouldn't have helped them.

The Cowboys have been the least successful of the area teams because they're the worst run in the front office. And no amount of spin will change that fact.
 

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Risen Star;4193824 said:
Wow. What a spin job in defense of the crap football we've seen here for a decade and a half.

Does this mean one of these last 16 Cowboys' teams would have won it all if they got to play best of 7s?

Best of 39s wouldn't have helped them.

The Cowboys have been the least successful of the area teams because they're the worst run in the front office. And no amount of spin will change that fact.
It means the 5 Super Bowls we do have are more important than all of the title runs by those teams put together. Oh, and for you information the premise of the thread was got to the title series twice in the given time frame. Not won it. Pay attention to details like that before you come at me with this sullen crappola.
 

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Risen Star;4193824 said:
The Cowboys have been the least successful of the area teams because they're the worst run in the front office. And no amount of spin will change that fact.

This is pretty much what it all boils down to

I think Baghdad Bob has gotten a hold of Hostile's account :D
 

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Risen Star;4193824 said:
Does this mean one of these last 16 Cowboys' teams would have won it all if they got to play best of 7s?

While he's not, it's an interesting question. Certainly dropping 1 game to the pathetic '06 Seahawks or '07 Giants wouldn't have ended our season, and we'd have been about even money to come back to beat the Vikes in '09.

In '06 and '07 we'd have been the best team left in the NFC (Seattle and New York both go down in 5), given how much the Bears slid in the back half of '06, and also in '09 if we got by Minny. (assuming all the other series went the way the historical games did, although Philly '06 and Green Bay '09 both probably reverse their losses and are at least as good as we are).

Would we have won all three? Probably not, but we'd probably have picked up one more Lombardi between those three seasons. My guess would be that we'd lose to New England in the '07 Super Bowl Series (in 6) and win the '09 one over the Colts (also in 6). That would give us two title appearances to match the Rangers, Stars, and Mavericks.

As for those three...
If the Rangers had one game playoffs instead of series, they'd have gone down to the Yankees in '10 and Rays this year instead of appearing in the series.

The Stars lose to the Avs in the '99 conference final in a one-off, and again in '00. They have no seasons where they won a first game and then lost a series , so no championship appearances for them either w/o best of 7.

The Mavs lose their 2006 appearance in the NBA finals to the Spurs in the quarterfinals. They still get their 2011 appearance, but LeBron and the Heat take them down. To be fair, under this system the 2010 Mavs would have survived the historical first round loss to the Spurs, but that team was relatively weak and two more wins back-to-back is doubtful.

So, in conclusion, Hos is right.

If the Cowboys got 7 games they'd probably be the same 1-1 in championships as the Stars and Mavs are and I fervently hope the Rangers are about to be.

OTOH, if the others were under the same 1-and-done system as the Cowboys, they'd have one combined appearance, and that a loss.
 

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Hostile;4193839 said:
It means the 5 Super Bowls we do have are more important than all of the title runs by those teams put together. Oh, and for you information the premise of the thread was got to the title series twice in the given time frame. Not won it. Pay attention to details like that before you come at me with this sullen crappola.

Our 5 would eclipse all the others short of 5. That I would agree with. But the notion that a one and done championship is more valuable than a best of 7 championship I don't agree with at all. In fact, I think it's more impressive to win a series. It shows clear cut superiority more than a single game does. Not all the time, just more often than a one game winner take all.

The OP mentioned the accomplishments of the other area teams since '99. You responded with this one and done vs. best of 7 defense. I'm failing to see any logic in it. The Cowboys in that entire time frame wouldn't have benefitted from a playoff series rather than a playoff game. So in either format they are the least successful team in the area during that period of time by a lot.
 

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Air Force One;4193845 said:
This is pretty much what it all boils down to

I think Baghdad Bob has gotten a hold of Hostile's account :D

Yeah, I think you just have to accept reality here. I'm not talking about today and with the new Garrett regime. Maybe we're back on the right track. I hope so. I believe in Garrett and his staff.

Just all those other years where we clearly were mismanaged by the front office short of a few Parcells years when the team began to turn it around.
 

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Hostile;4193755 said:
It wouldn't bother me if I were in his shoes. In the NFL you don't get any best of 7 series it is one and done. How many of those teams would have made it if it were one and done?

The '07 Giants come to mind.
 

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So, I'm scanning the Sports Zone and see, "Stars, Rangers, and Mavs have been to 2 championships each since 1999..." and say, "What the heck? The title looks good."

Then the first thing I read is straight out of a Lunesta commercial. :rolleyes:
 
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