Starting defensive line

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They have not cut Brent.

 

[speedkilz88]

They have not cut Brent Price.

I think you mean Josh Brent.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Current depth chart

SLB: Albright, Wilber, Spencer
SDE: Spencer, Crawford, Hatcher
NT: Ratliff, Brent, Lissemore
3T: Hatcher, Ratliff, Lissemore
WDE: Ware, Spencer, Wilber

This is what I am getting at in terms of flex.

Despite the moral outrage I like keeping Brent.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think you mean Josh Brent.

yeah i will edit

 

[supercowboy8]

Who said Spencer will be a DE, I wouldn't be surprised to see him a SOLB in the 4-3

 

[gimmesix]

Who said Spencer will be a DE, I wouldn't be surprised to see him a SOLB in the 4-3

Well, they did franchise him as a linebacker, but I don't see it. His best fit in this scheme is DE.

 

[Zekeats]

If, IF Brian Price gets healthy he might just be our 3 technique......or a first round selection.

 

[gimmesix]

Current depth chart

SLB: Albright, Wilber, Spencer
SDE: Spencer, Crawford, Hatcher
NT: Ratliff, Brent, Lissemore
3T: Hatcher, Ratliff, Lissemore
WDE: Ware, Spencer, Wilber

This is what I am getting at in terms of flex.

Despite the moral outrage I like keeping Brent.

That's probably fairly accurate, except I don't see Brent ahead of Lissemore. This scheme relies on the quickness of its linemen, and Lissemore has more than Brent.

If Crawford is viewed as a strongside end, I could see keeping Brent. If not, I think we'll end up adding depth at DE and cutting Brent.

 

[xwalker]

Well, they did franchise him as a linebacker, but I don't see it. His best fit in this scheme is DE.

I "think" that the Franchise tag is always based on the position from the previous year.

 

[DFWJC]

Who said Spencer will be a DE, I wouldn't be surprised to see him a SOLB in the 4-3

I don't think so.

 

[gimmesix]

I "think" that the Franchise tag is always based on the position from the previous year.

Yes, I just read that in an Associated Press story, so it really doesn't mean anything as far as where Spencer will play this year. I'm positive it will be end, though.

 

[speedkilz88]

That's probably fairly accurate, except I don't see Brent ahead of Lissemore. This scheme relies on the quickness of its linemen, and Lissemore has more than Brent.

If Crawford is viewed as a strongside end, I could see keeping Brent. If not, I think we'll end up adding depth at DE and cutting Brent.

I think Brent fits in well at the 1 at least on run downs. He may have to go on some non injury list given his situation.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Ware is a great player. But will he be 100% He struggled late season.

Ratliff and Hatcher are mediocre players. You could almost consider them journeymen. They have played good enough for us to anoint them as icons but not good enough to start for most rational teams.
Spencer has been a one-year wonder last season. That is his claim to fame.

Before we get too fired up about this defense, pls remember that as much as we'd all like to think this will be a good line, it won't. Lee will provide backup and quickness. Beyond that, don't get your hopes u. Remember, the NFL is a quick-pass league now. By the time Rat and Hatch shed their blockers, the receiver will be doing chest bumps downfield.

Behind that so-so line, we'll probably have bad (or rookie) safeties and Carr and Claiborne learning the new scheme.

The offense will have to carry the load. And playing catch-up is not our forte.

My dream for next season is 10-6, as it was last year.

The reality is that little will change and we'll be an 8-8 team again, barring injuries. With injuries, we'll be a lock to get into the 2014 top 10 draft picks.

For the rebuilding to begin.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's a good starting defensive line, but yeah, depth is needed.

 

[burmafrd]

If we keep spencer this year (no sign and trade) then we have very good bookends at DE.

Those whining about Ware ought to try and play in the NFL with about 3/4 of one arm when you count both his shoulder injury and elbow injury. Shoulder injury meant he was done to about 1/2 an arm on one side and that elbow meant the other was about 1/4 of an arm.

Rat is declining but should still be good in spurts. Platooning like the Giants do is a MUST. We have to keep guys fresh.

Inside we should be in good shape; my worry is who is going to spell spencer and ware.

 

[speedkilz88]

Israel Idonije from the Bears would make sense if he's cheap enough as a pass rusher. Crawford could take some snaps away from Spencer.

Idonije is coming off of 7.5 sacks and was on a 1yr 2.5 million contract.

6-6 275 32yr old

 

[gimmesix]

Ratliff and Hatcher are mediocre players. You could almost consider them journeymen. They have played good enough for us to anoint them as icons but not good enough to start for most rational teams.

I think you undervalue these players.

Hatcher is not the same player he was two years ago. He has become a legitimate NFL starter.

Ratliff already has proven himself to be a top-notch DT, but health does have to be a concern.