Stats Before and after - what the Atlanta game did to Dak

[Bobhaze]

It's been discussed many times how the 27-7 loss last November in Atlanta was disastrous for this team. Looking at stats, it was clearly most disastrous for Dak Prescott. In terms of how it mentally affected Dak and this team, it was one of the worst losses in Cowboys regular season history.

Let’s look at Dak’s stats pre 2017 Atlanta game, then after the Atlanta game all the way to now.

DAK STATS BEFORE 2017 ATL GAME
2016- 23 TDS, 4 INTs
2017- (before Atl game) 16 TDs, 4 INTs
COMBINED 2016 and 8 2017 GAMES BEFORE ATL GAME: 39 TDs and 8 INTs

DAK STATS AFTER 2017 ATL GAME
2017-(after Atl game) 6 TDs, 9 INTs
2018- (so far) 11 TDs, 5 INTs
COMBINED 2017 and 2018 STATS AFTER ATL GAME: 17 TDs, 14 INTs

Just looking at Dak’s stats it’s pretty clear that Atlanta game last year did something to his confidence and performance.

I clearly remember watching Chaz Green get destroyed play after play by the mediocre Adrian Clayborn and also watching in sheer disbelief as Garett just stood there clapping while his (at that time) 24 year old QB gets thrown around like a rag doll. And no adjustments were made until late 3rd qtr. Garrett should have been fired on the plane ride home.

Coaching matters. And as the stats make clear, some games are so poorly coached it can have lingering effects. Especially when the head coach is the worst in the league at managing in-game situations. The game Sun in Atl is a chance to exercise those demons or to add to them.

 

[DogFace]

Nate said it at the time. I game like this can really hurt a young QB. Spook him.


We’re now full circle.

Let’s turn it around. We have a good young team and a coach that is present.

We can do it!

(I really feel we can despite the shot at Garrett)

 

[Diehardblues]

The Atlanta game exposed Daks weaknesses more. We realized how much he needed the All Pro talent around him. And he wasn’t going to elevate or carry our offense on his own as our prior QB had.

 

[Diehardblues]

Last Sunday nite was a signature win for Dak and another example that this team never quits on Garrett.

As usual expectations were too high from some and we aren’t as bad as others see.

We are somewhere in the middle fighting hard for a playoff spot. It is what it is.

 

[DogFace]

It's been discussed many times how the 27-7 loss last November in Atlanta was disastrous for this team. Looking at stats, it was clearly most disastrous for Dak Prescott. In terms of how it mentally affected Dak and this team, it was one of the worst losses in Cowboys regular season history.

Let’s look at Dak’s stats pre 2017 Atlanta game, then after the Atlanta game all the way to now.

DAK STATS BEFORE 2017 ATL GAME
2016- 23 TDS, 4 INTs
2017- (before Atl game) 16 TDs, 4 INTs
COMBINED 2016 and 8 2017 GAMES BEFORE ATL GAME: 39 TDs and 8 INTs

DAK STATS AFTER 2017 ATL GAME
2017-(after Atl game) 6 TDs, 9 INTs
2018- (so far) 11 TDs, 5 INTs
COMBINED 2017 and 2018 STATS AFTER ATL GAME: 17 TDs, 14 INTs

Just looking at Dak’s stats it’s pretty clear that Atlanta game last year did something to his confidence and performance.

I clearly remember watching Chaz Green get destroyed play after play by the mediocre Adrian Clayborn and also watching in sheer disbelief as Garett just stood there clapping while his (at that time) 24 year old QB gets thrown around like a rag doll. And no adjustments were made until late 3rd qtr. Garrett should have been fired on the plane ride home.

Coaching matters. And as the stats make clear, some games are so poorly coached it can have lingering effects. Especially when the head coach is the worst in the league at managing in-game situations. The game Sun in Atl is a chance to exercise those demons or to add to them.

I’d really like to know what JG was thinking. Honestly. Did he not know what to do? Was he waiting for help from another that didn’t happen? I think he’s woefully under-qualified and really doesn’t know what he should or can be doing during a game.

 

[Prime21]

The Atlanta game exposed Daks weaknesses more. We realized how much he needed the All Pro talent around him. And he wasn’t going to elevate or carry our offense on his own as our prior QB had.

It shouldn't take all pro talent to stop Adrian Clayborn from getting multiple sacks.

Hopefully we get redemption Sunday.

 

[Diehardblues]

We have an up and coming defense and a struggling bottom tier offense because our OL is not what it was, our receiving Corp has been downgraded and we have an average passing QB.

Everything on offense has to gell to be effective. When our most talented player has a big nite it helps set the tone. And when our QB is more consistent and doesn’t turn the ball over he’s more effective.

We are still going to struggle against top defenses and putting up as many points as top offenses. I’d say we are a middle of the pack team until more talent is added.

 

[Diehardblues]

It shouldn't take all pro talent to stop Adrian Clayborn from getting multiple sacks.

Hopefully we get redemption Sunday.

Takes more talent than Chaz or Butler had. And a QB who adjust better as well. There’s plenty of blame to go around.

 

[blueblood70]

No need to revisit that , its very obvious ...move on..live in the now and we need to string together a streak to even have half chance to salvage the year and this matchup is completely different then last..

 

[northerncowboynation]

Eeentersesting, wery eenteresting

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree. This is a more winnable game than last year.

It’s a must win for Falcons too. Either team which falls to 4-6 can pretty well write season off unless they win out.

Their defense is suspect while their offense can score in bunches. Turnovers will probably be the difference.

 

[Ken]

The Atlanta game exposed Daks weaknesses more. We realized how much he needed the All Pro talent around him. And he wasn’t going to elevate or carry our offense on his own as our prior QB had.

LOL.

Somehow worked this horrible narrative into this game where his line got beat like a drum.

Well done.

 

[ClintDagger]

Dak’s cracks started showing late in ‘16 when teams had enough film on him to understand how to force him into throws he struggled with. Then I think the ATL game last year took what was a slow decline and pushed Dak off the cliff. He’s probably climbed back up a third of the way or so.

 

[Denim Chicken]

The Atlanta game exposed Daks weaknesses more. We realized how much he needed the All Pro talent around him. And he wasn’t going to elevate or carry our offense on his own as our prior QB had.

This is the the lamest narrative going. Guess what, all QBs need talent around them. Look at Rogers right now. Look at Wentz.

What QB do you think is carrying their team right now with subpar talent?

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak’s cracks started showing late in ‘16 when teams had enough film on him to understand how to force him into throws he struggled with. Then I think the ATL game last year took what was a slow decline and pushed Dak off the cliff. He’s probably climbed back up a third of the way or so.

Right. It was also exposed early in 2017 against Denver.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the the lamest narrative going. Guess what, all QBs need talent around them. Look at Rogers right now. Look at Wentz.

What QB do you think is carrying their team right now with subpar talent?

They all don’t need All Pro talent surrounding them.

Even though Packers lost last nite , Rodgers looked very effective.

Does Dak ever look effective in losses?

 

[Bobhaze]

I just find it interesting how one game can be a crossroads for a team and it’s most important player and crush them mentally.

Many forget that in that game last year, Dallas actually took their first drive of the game down the field for a TD and they led 7-0. They only trailed 10-7 at the half, despite Clayborn already having 4-5 sacks.

To me, that’s the biggest indictment of Garrett as a HC. They were still in that game at half and yet he left Chaz Green in there. It was over after halftime. Garrett is THE WORST in game adjustment coach in the league. Let’s hope he’s learned something since last year. (How many times has that statement been made?)

 

[HungryLion]

Dak’s cracks started showing late in ‘16 when teams had enough film on him to understand how to force him into throws he struggled with. Then I think the ATL game last year took what was a slow decline and pushed Dak off the cliff. He’s probably climbed back up a third of the way or so.

Dak had one bad game in late 2016. I have no idea why some people on this board continue to push this false narrative.

 

[PUSHfold]

ATL last year is when our o-line began to play like absolute crap and yeah it's affected Prescott he's not there yet but pretty much every game our o-line has played well so has Dak.
Dak's still a developing player and if that means making sure he has a good offensive line to help him play quality ball then so be it. Some QBs need different things he just happens to need a decent o-line he can have some trust in. If Dak can get some good coaches around him it'll help him exponentially I think and his development. Almost none of the great QBs could carry a team on their backs their first few years it takes time. I've seen enough from Prescott that I want to see what he turns into but it's all for nothing if he doesn't get the coaching staff to help him develop because he won't he'll be stunted and never develop any further. Today though Dak's a better QB than he was in year 1, the circumstances around him might not be the same but he's a better player. I don't believe he's reached his ceiling yet.

 

[kevm3]

It's been discussed many times how the 27-7 loss last November in Atlanta was disastrous for this team. Looking at stats, it was clearly most disastrous for Dak Prescott. In terms of how it mentally affected Dak and this team, it was one of the worst losses in Cowboys regular season history.

Let’s look at Dak’s stats pre 2017 Atlanta game, then after the Atlanta game all the way to now.

DAK STATS BEFORE 2017 ATL GAME
2016- 23 TDS, 4 INTs
2017- (before Atl game) 16 TDs, 4 INTs
COMBINED 2016 and 8 2017 GAMES BEFORE ATL GAME: 39 TDs and 8 INTs

DAK STATS AFTER 2017 ATL GAME
2017-(after Atl game) 6 TDs, 9 INTs
2018- (so far) 11 TDs, 5 INTs
COMBINED 2017 and 2018 STATS AFTER ATL GAME: 17 TDs, 14 INTs

Just looking at Dak’s stats it’s pretty clear that Atlanta game last year did something to his confidence and performance.

I clearly remember watching Chaz Green get destroyed play after play by the mediocre Adrian Clayborn and also watching in sheer disbelief as Garett just stood there clapping while his (at that time) 24 year old QB gets thrown around like a rag doll. And no adjustments were made until late 3rd qtr. Garrett should have been fired on the plane ride home.

Coaching matters. And as the stats make clear, some games are so poorly coached it can have lingering effects. Especially when the head coach is the worst in the league at managing in-game situations. The game Sun in Atl is a chance to exercise those demons or to add to them.

You notice how our offense magically looks competent when the coaching staff gets bashed and are on the hot seat? THEN they actually try creativity and aggressiveness. When its comfortable, they go back to the most predictable offense on the league. These coaches are wasting talent.